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December 8, 2008 6:00 AM PST

EA, Take-Two lift Nvidia physics to next level

by Brooke Crothers
Backbreaker scene

Nvidia's PhysX engine is intended to bring more realistic motion to games such as Backbreaker.

(Credit: GameSpot)

Electronic Arts and Take-Two Interactive Software are adopting Nvidia's PhysX technology, bringing more realistic gaming to the PC.

The largest graphics chip supplier is announcing on Monday that Electronic Arts and Take-Two have licensed its PhysX technology as a development platform.

"PhysX is a great physics solution for the most popular platforms, and we're happy to make it available for EA's development teams worldwide," Tim Wilson, chief technology officer of EA's Redwood Shores Studio, said in a statement.

"We are very impressed with the quality of the PhysX engine, and we licensed it so our studios can use this solution early in development," Jacob Hawley, technology director of 2K, a publishing label of Take-Two, also said in a statement.

Nvidia got its physics technology when it acquired Ageia in February. PhysX runs on the graphics processing unit, or GPU. Intel and Advanced Micro Devices, on the other hand, have been promoting technology that is executed on the central processing unit, or CPU. Intel's approach uses technology from Havok, a developer of a physics engine that Intel bought in September of 2007.

Adhering to the laws of physics
The goal of Nvidia's technology -- based on the laws of physics -- is to make game objects respond in a realistic way to physical events. More conventional technology uses a canned response, in which the same response is repeated over and over. For example, a window breaks, or a person falls the same way every time. In a PhysX-enabled football sports game, however, the angle and velocity of the impact is calculated by the GPU to generate a real-time response that is different every time.

The technology was meant to run on the GPU, according to Jon Peddie, whose firm tracks developments in the graphics chip industry. "It's a GPU thing, and the fact that EA and Take-Two are coming out (with support) gives you a clue why," Peddie said. "This really is a significant event," he said, "enabling the GPU to do physics."

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Ujesh Desai, VP of product marketing at Nvidia, discusses physics strategy

(Credit: Brooke Crothers)

Ageia's secret sauce is its physics libraries, which are supported on Microsoft's Xbox, Sony's PlayStation 3, Nintendo's Wii, as well as on the CPU and Ageia's own PPU (physics processing unit), Ujesh Desai, vice president of product marketing at Nvidia, said in an interview last week. "It's a very open platform. Something game developers really liked, which is why a lot of game developers adopted it," he said.

The launch pad for Ageia on the PC is Nvidia's CUDA, or Compute Unified Device Architecture. CUDA already has a large installed base of GPUs that can run a C program, "which is what PhysX is," Desai said. "We bought Ageia, (and) they ported their PhysX API to our GPU, using our C compiler on top of CUDA. So now there are 100 million GeForce (chips) out there that can do PhysX processing."

And PhysX-enabled games will offer much greater realism. "Today, the way they do sports games is motion capture. They capture the different animation--running, falling," Desai said. "What you realize is that for the first 5 to 10 minutes of the game (or movie), it looks believable, but after you play for a while, you realize, wait a minute, every time he falls, he falls the same way. Every time I make that tackle, it looks the same."

The game Backbreaker uses PhysX. "They're calculating those tackles in real time, based on how the body interacts and the body mechanics interact. So no two tackles are the same," according to Desai. Another game, Mirror's Edge, is coming out in January from a company called Dice. The PC version will have PhysX in it, according to Desai.

"Ageia changed the rules on this," Peddie said. "It's much, much more realistic."

Ageia's physics was originally done on an Ageia Physics Processing Unit, Peddie said. "This was the only way to make it work. But now this capability (software) has been ported to Nvidia GPUs, and this can be done on Nvidia silicon," he said.

Physics can also be used to make things look more photo-realistic. "In today's games, cloth and hair look very fake because you don't have the right physical properties," Desai said. But with PhysX, "all these things can be physically simulated."

Unreal Tournament 3

Unreal Tournament 3, a la PhysX.

(Credit: Nvidia)

Havok--the company Intel acquired--was the first to introduce physics into games and bring out a physics library. Havok's physics has been run on the CPU in a time-scheduled way, Peddie said. "Because of that, there weren't many CPU resources to really do a great job on the physics," he said. "Nothing would really happen. What happened, at most, is that you would hit this thing (a window or a wall, for example), and it would apply a decal to indicate that there was some change in it. It's not very realistic."

AMD, for its part, will pursue a balanced platform. "The GPU is a great place to do processing. We'll do the offloading (to the GPU), where it makes sense," said Korhan Erenben, product marketing manager at AMD Graphics Products Group. "(But) we are aligned with Havok, in terms of working on a future direction of physics. Right now, it is on the CPU, and we think that serves the broad installed base. Taking it to the next step would be to have a capability on the GPU--where and when it makes sense."

Physics is better on GPUs
Peddie explained why physics is more suited for the GPU than the CPU. GPUs today typically have hundreds of processors that are good at doing many things in parallel. "If you have threads or processes that can be run simultaneously, (and) if you have processors available to deal with each one of those threads, then you can get your results a lot sooner," he said.

He described a technique called Same Instruction Multiple Data (SIMD). "The same instruction is the physics equation. Things fall toward Earth all the time. And the multiple data will be what the things are. It might be a rock, might be a person, might be the wheel of a car. You have to be able to process this stuff and have it behave in a realistic fashion. To do that, you have to process it very quickly," Peddie said. "The advantage that GPUs bring is that they have this humongous number of processors. Certainly as good as the (Intel) 486 ever was. So they're really good processors, and you've got hundreds of them literally inside the GPU."

There will be challenges for users, however. "The tricky part is, why would I want to take one graphics card and spend $500 on it, and then not use it for graphics but rather use it for physics?" he said. "The answer is, of course, I wouldn't."

Peddie suggested that a gamer might use the really good card for physics and employ the old card "that you got last year" for graphics, assuming that there are enough slots in the PC.

Brooke Crothers is a former editor at large at CNET News.com, and has been an editor for the Asian weekly version of the Wall Street Journal. He writes for the CNET Blog Network, and is not a current employee of CNET. Contact him at mbcrothers@gmail.com. Disclosure.
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by lmasanti December 8, 2008 6:40 AM PST
" Taking it to the next step would be to have a capability on the GPU--where and when it makes sense," he said."
Or... wait for Snow Leopard's any-processor-available solution and use both!
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by ducttape36 December 8, 2008 11:48 AM PST
yes. macs are notorious for their gaming prowess.
by pithenumber December 8, 2008 1:32 PM PST
mac are notorious for their gaming n00bishness
I know you were sarcastic

you can only fit one graphics card inside the Mac Pro, every computer should come with 4 PCI-e with xfire/sli/both
by nafhan December 8, 2008 11:14 AM PST
I think the last paragraph is backwards. From what I've read, graphics still takes considerably more horsepower than physics. The new graphics card would be for graphics and the old for physics.
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by timber2005 December 8, 2008 12:47 PM PST
I agree. What was said seems backwards.
You can use the older card for physics.

Not sure what's so wrong about the seperate card for physics as the original physics card from Ageil was... at least I wouldn't need a dedicated powersupply (nearly) for it!
by pithenumber December 8, 2008 1:32 PM PST
I agree
by ahickey December 9, 2008 5:03 AM PST
Physics is hard.
So, using the newer GPU for physics makes sense.
It takes a load of the CPU, giving it more processing power to work with the graphics requirements.
The output of the Physics engine would then leave the graphics card with less to do.

Also, think 12 months down the line when the next round of graphics cards is released with increased capability. A single card for both Physics and Graphics won't we strange it will be normal.
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Brooke Crothers was formerly editor-at-large at CNET News.com, an analyst at IDC (International Data Corp.) Japan, and an editor at The Asian Wall Street Journal Weekly (The Wall Street Journal, Dow Jones), among other endeavors, including a recent hiatus from the tech industry when he co-managed an after-school math and reading center. Nanotech covers computer chip technology and how it defines the computing experience. He is a member of the CNET Blog Network, and is not an employee of CNET. Disclosure.

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