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November 6, 2008 11:45 AM PST

Microsoft describes USB 3.0 delays

by Brooke Crothers
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LOS ANGELES--At the Windows Hardware Engineering Conference here, Microsoft talked about the future of USB 3.0 and how delays have hampered rollout of the specification.

Microsoft's talk Thursday was predicated on the expected finalization of the specification later this month. On Wednesday, Jeff Ravencraft of Intel said that he expects the final specification to be announced in San Jose, Calif., on November 17. Ravencraft is also the chairman and president of the USB Implementers Forum (USB-IF) industry trade association.

Microsoft is wrestling with when and how to implement USB 3.0

Microsoft is wrestling with when and how to implement USB 3.0

(Credit: Brooke Crothers)

Microsoft expressed caution about USB 3.0--which is expected to offer 10 times the performance of USB 2.0--because finalization has taken so long. "Because the current USB 3.0 spec is currently not signed off, we're challenged and we won't have support for USB 3.0 in Windows 7 at RTM (release to manufacturing)," Lars Giusti of Microsoft said in a WinHEC session here titled "USB Technology Update and Windows Strategy."

"Our goal is to have the USB 3.0 specs signed off by the promoter's group sometime later this month. Hopefully," he said.

Delays have held USB 3.0 back, Giusti said. "That makes it challenging for several reasons. Since the spec isn't signed off we don't see any USB 3.0 hardware in the market or even prototypes available yet. With those two disadvantages we cannot develop, create, and design support yet for USB 3.0. But we are staffing up. We are making plans," he said.

He continued. "If you look at the USB 3.0 industry timelines and checkpoints, it really has been a very long, difficult and challenging three-year effort."

Giusti then made some predictions about the adoption of USB 3.0. "In 2009, the signed-off spec will be handed over to the implementers and those adopters that plan to productize USB 3.0," he said. "Our prediction tells us that in 2010 finally we'll see broad-scale product deployment of host controllers, devices, and systems that are USB 3.0 and SuperSpeed capable."

Currently, Microsoft is trying to figure out which operating systems will be USB 3.0-capable. "The Microsoft USB core team is currently evaluating which operating systems we should support USB 3.0 on. It's a difficult decision and a difficult choice 'cause there's all these moving parts," he said.

"Our early indications tell us that most partners think that we should support USB 3.0 on at least Windows Vista."

Performance comparison: transfer of 25GB HD movie (Source: Microsoft/WinHEC 2008):

  • USB 1.0: 9.3 hours
  • USB 2.0: 13.9 minutes
  • USB 3.0: 70 seconds

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Brooke Crothers has served as an editor at large at CNET News, an editor at Dow Jones' Asian Wall Street Journal Weekly, and a senior editor at InfoWorld. His CNET blog covers chip technology and computer systems, and how they define the computing experience. He also contributes to The New York Times' Bits and Technology sections. He is a member of the CNET Blog Network and is not an employee of CNET. Disclosure. Follow Brooke on Twitter @mbrookec.
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by Mr. Dee November 6, 2008 12:06 PM PST
History repeating itself again? I remember a similar debate over Windows XP not supporting the USB 2.0 standard around beta 2 and the Company noted it wouldn't do so until SP1. Things are looking very ironic but hopefully good for Windows since its a point release (6.1) just like XP is (5.1). I think the PC Gods are aligning for Microsoft again. Anyway, support is determined by the devices, if they are not out there in 2009 - 2010 in vast numbers, the point of even killing yourself over supporting does not make any sense. I say leave it out and work on it for Vista SP3 and 7 SP1.
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by Lerianis November 6, 2008 12:10 PM PST
I have to agree. If it isn't ready yet, just leave it out and put it in later.
by Penguinisto November 6, 2008 12:43 PM PST
s'okay... I'm sure I'll have a Linux module (y'all call 'em "drivers") handy for it within (literally) days of Intel releasing the finaly spec.

Now to find some nice USB external discs and geek-sticks capable of USB 3.0.... :)

/P
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by FellowConspirator November 6, 2008 12:48 PM PST
I should hope so. Intel does it's hardware development and testing on Linux. One might hope that once their implementation is available and the spec is released, they'll release the reference (Linux) implementation.
by Penguinisto November 6, 2008 1:38 PM PST
Exactly (Intel developing on Linux, that is). The delay would be at the distro level (e.g. RedHat incorporating it into YUM, SUsE incorporating it into YaST, stuff like that).
by AppleSuxLeo November 7, 2008 6:42 AM PST
70 seconds is Fing fast !
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by AppleSuxLeo November 7, 2008 6:48 AM PST
"I think the PC Gods are aligning for Microsoft again" . I must agree...with Nehalem 32 nanometer right around the corner , things are looking good for "7"
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by smenarru November 7, 2008 11:19 AM PST
What a joke. Microsoft has always been the last player to get things working. USB 1 hardware was in systems and on the shelves for over a year before beta (and extremely buggy) host controller drivers were available. Reliable host code took nearly another year. USB2.0 was a bit less - but still nearly a year late. And all the while they're telling us what a great job they're doing supporting USB.
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by Maccess November 9, 2008 5:28 PM PST
"Currently, Microsoft is trying to figure out which operating systems will be USB 3.0-capable."

Do they mean their operating system? ...or are they troubled that *horrors* USB 3.0 would be well supported on the Mac, Linux, and other operating systems, unless the "standard" is extended with proprietary Windows features?
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