Intel Atom rival ships; larger Netbooks coming?

Are Netbooks ripe to be resized? Via Technologies thinks so. The Intel-compatible chipmaker says larger Netbooks are on the way.

Via Nano processor

(Credit: Via Technologies)

In an interview, Glenn Henry, the head of Via Technologies subsidiary Centaur Technology, said that Via has just begun commercial shipments of its Intel-compatible, power-sipping Nano processor. Centaur headed up development of the Nano processor.

"We just started shipping to customers last week and this week--literally right now," Henry said.

Henry said there is a lot of demand for larger form factors. "Everyone wants to build a (Netbook) of some variety these days. Most of the interest we see from customers is for a larger screen than the HP (2133). There's a lot of demand to move those things up to higher screen sizes. I've heard customers say they want to build 12- or 13-inch notebooks," Henry said.

Via's most illustrious customer is Hewlett-Packard, which currently uses the older Via C7 processor in its 2133 Mini-Note PC.

Though Henry refused to talk about design wins, he did say that there is interest from major companies. "We've given them (HP) samples," he said. Though Henry qualified this by saying that Via has given samples to a lot of potential customers. "There's a great deal of interest in the part from people whose name you would recognize," he said.

The Nano processor is seen as the only real competition for Intel's popular Atom chip, which is used in Netbooks from a long list of companies including Acer, Asus, Lenovo, and Dell.

The 2.6-pound HP 2133 Mini-Note uses the Via C7 processor.

(Credit: Hewlett-Packard)

There is one crucial difference with the Atom. Nano has a thermal envelope of 5 watts at 1GHz. Though this is low compared with a standard Intel Core 2 mobile processor (typically drawing 25 watts to 35 watts), this is higher than Intel's single-core Atom chip for netbooks which tops out at just 2 watts. At 1.3GHz, Nano has a thermal envelope of 8 watts, approaching that of Intel's dual-core Atom.

Why the difference? Nano uses a more sophisticated superscalar, out-of-order design, while Atom has a more simple "in-order execution" architecture. Because of Nano's more complex design, it may deliver better performance than Atom in some cases.

The thermal envelope, however, is important because it can influence the design of a Netbook-type device. Typically, parts with lower thermal envelopes can go into smaller devices.

On the upside, Nano can be plugged directly into a design that uses the older C7 processor. "One of the very interesting things about the Nano is that it's plug compatible with our current C7s. You can plug the part into the same socket." Though some adjustments must be made: A BIOS upgrade is necessary and "more importantly the part has a different power-versus-megahertz (paradigm) compared to the current part because it's running benchmarks two times faster," Henry said.

He said products using the Nano processor will not appear immediately. "No product that actually uses this is for sale to the end customer (yet). So the parts we're shipping are going into the (customer's) manufacturing process or development process."

And what about a Via dual-core processor? "We're working on it. When you see it, who knows. We're implementing it but it's not near at hand," Henry said.

(Note: There are several ways to categorize a design as a netbook. One is screen size. Typically netbooks have 7-, 8-, or 9-inch screens. But this definition is in flux with, for example, the newest Atom-processor-based Eee PC 1000 that sports a 10-inch screen. So, as netbooks get redefined upward, the silicon inside--and other hardware--becomes the defining factor, i.e., low-power, low-performance processors and graphics that dictate how the computer should be used: primarily as a Net-centric device for Web browsing and email. Prices will also typically be lower than standard notebooks.)

[buggermenot]

Is it just me or is a larger Netbook a laptop?

[dude7895]

Its not you.

[samjohnston]

Size doesn't matter. 'Note'books pertain to size - 'Net'books are about connectivity and relying on the Internet for storage and computation (aka cloud computing).

Sam
http://samj.net/

[streamline35]

Almost. I think they only difference they are talking about is the super low power/low cost type laptop. But I agree, I really don't see the advantage once it passes 11 inches or so.

[stgenerations]

There seems to be some confusion among consumers. VIA processors are horrible. Plain and simple fact. VIA boards are horrible. Plain and simple fact. So why would anyone purchase these netbooks with VIA in them? Because HP has a state or local contract. That's all. HP needs to get with the program and start using Intel Atom or Intel's next gen Atom. What it called again?

[-pekr-]

stgenerations, there is no confusion, just one single fact - you are an Intel fanboy. You should get your acts together. I use VIA chipset boards and also VIA cpus for quite a long time. What VIA boards are you talking about? HP surely has their own one, just utilising VIA. You also seem to be ignoring the fact, that back at the very unglory times of PIV which were heat pumps :-), it was VIA who started mini-itx platform. It is cool that Intel rethought their aproach and that we are able to enjoy Atom, but stop spitting on VIA just because you don't like it. Those who use it are taking their own choices and don't need advices as yours!

[wlau]

Industry friends who has played with the Nano sample all claim it leaves Atom in the dust. The more advanced pipeline really shows a performance difference on single core and lower clock rate CPUs. It's true power consumption is a bit higher. I may be the only one think this way but I tested the 2133 with C7 and the Acer Atom based system, and I couldn't notice any difference in terms of performance by running programs (not running benchmark). However, when I played video files such as DivX and MPEG-4 files, the 2133 did a great job while the Acer Atom dropped frame like crazy. I hope and think Nano should perform even better. I am not pro Intel or Via but glad to see there will be an additional worhty competitor in the market for this segment of products.