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July 28, 2008 4:20 PM PDT

HP: Nvidia graphics defect an issue since November 2007

by Brooke Crothers

Hewlett-Packard lists 24 laptop model variations affected by a widely reported Nvidia graphics chip defect. HP said the flaw has been a warranty issue since November of last year.

Some HP DV9000 series notebooks used potentially defective Nvidia graphics chip

Some HP DV9000 series notebooks used potentially defective Nvidia graphics chip

(Credit: CNET Networks)

Dell made a statement Friday regarding the same graphics chip issue. Nvidia published a "Business Update" on July 2 that addressed the problem. The Nvidia defect is centered on a "weak die/packaging material" in certain versions of Nvidia graphics silicon used in laptops. The die refers to the chip itself and the packaging is what encases the chip.

HP has published a list of potentially affected systems that comprises Pavilion and Compaq Presario laptop models.

"HP has taken appropriate actions for any HP notebook products that use the known affected Nvidia chips," an HP spokesperson said Monday, responding to an e-mail query. "We initiated a customer program to address this issue in November 2007, and have notified registered customers who have notebook PC models that are included in this HP program.

"HP became aware of this issue when we began performing an investigation based on field performance data," the spokesperson said.

Pavilion dv2000, dv6000, and dv9000 and Compaq Presario V3000 and V6000 series are listed by HP as being potentially affected. Symptoms include no video on the computer LCD screen, no power and no active LEDs, and "the notebook does not start," according to HP's Web page that cites the problem.

"If you are experiencing one or more symptoms listed below, and your computer meets the product criteria listed below, contact HP to determine whether you are eligible for a free repair," the HP Web page states.

The defect is described by Nvidia in more detail here.

Technology Web site The Inquirer cited affected HP systems earlier this month.

Brooke Crothers is a former editor at large at CNET News.com, and has been an editor for the Asian weekly version of the Wall Street Journal. He writes for the CNET Blog Network, and is not a current employee of CNET. Contact him at mbcrothers@gmail.com. Disclosure.
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by gerrrg July 28, 2008 5:40 PM PDT
Curious.

Why NVIDIA chose to wait until July 2 to announce an issue that HP had been aware of since November of last year.

Man oh man, is Intel ROTFL over NVIDIA.
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by Balfor July 28, 2008 7:23 PM PDT
It's about time -- Nvidia has the worst technical support in the world and have for years. It's amazing their management in Taiwan still have their jobs. I've gone to ATI and am super happy!
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by SeizeCTRL July 28, 2008 7:29 PM PDT
I'd take an Nvidia chipset with a bad fan over Intel graphics any day of the weak.
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by gerrrg July 28, 2008 9:59 PM PDT
That is totally weak.
by wlau July 28, 2008 8:08 PM PDT
HP handled this situation very poorly. This issue has been known for a LONG time, originally tied to Wireless LAN randomly disappearing. I had my notebooks repair 5 or 6 times after the issue was escalated. I still do NOT have a fully functioning notebook. What really angered me is that I repeatedly complained about video corruption during my 5 or 6 repair attempts and nothing was done to take care of this issue. This is all before nVidia acknowledged this issue publicly... now I know why the video is still screwed up. The repair facility HP used is an outsourced contractor that did a miserable job at best. They screwed and chip every panel on my laptop.. I totally disappointed at HP and nVidia on the poor handling of this issue. I will definitely not buy another nVidia based notebook.
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by gerrrg July 28, 2008 10:00 PM PDT
Dell outlet.
by Vegaman_Dan July 28, 2008 9:44 PM PDT
Get ready for it- Toshiba and Lenovo also have the same issue with a good chunk of their lineup with the same chipset.
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by polgadot July 28, 2008 10:21 PM PDT
I would never have an nvidia card, why they don't work
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by ejeon1989 July 29, 2008 4:23 PM PDT
God forbit, pretty soon Apple might have the same situation on their hands. It's the Great Graphics Card Recall of 2008!!!!!
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by jr2124 July 31, 2008 10:37 AM PDT
I have an HP DV2000t and it is experiencing the EXACT same issues! I've never abused my laptop ever and phone day it started to die! I called HP and they said my laptop was not part of the recall! I cannot believe what a terrible company they are. The forums are blazing with similar problems but no help from HP.
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by hpproblem August 10, 2008 2:44 PM PDT
I had the same problem with my dv2000 laptop. 1 small beep 2 long beeps. I talked to hp customer service after I saw this article, they said that my model still does not qualify.
HP customer service is just going down the drains.
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by ColoradyGuy September 2, 2008 8:34 AM PDT
"HP has taken appropriate actions for any HP notebook products that use the known affected Nvidia chips"

yeah, right they did....not.

I have been back and forth with HP for two months now on this, the customer support people tried to tell me that they memory chips were bad. Sent the laptop to texas to be repaired but they never told me that the hard drive would be formatted. SO after 2 weeks of not having a computer, a case manager calls to see how things are. She put a stop work order and the computer is shipped back to me, drive already formatted with all of my data gone, and the computer still doesn't work. So I send it back again, now I am waiting. Seriously, July 18 it died, it is now Sept. 2 and I still have no computer and all my data is gone. HP has not once listened to my idea that it was a bad motherboard, and has not once awknowledged that the above issues were the cause. I will never buy another HP product.
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by akhileshbhu September 3, 2008 3:37 AM PDT
n Vidia graphic cards are really of worst quality in all of world. Just bull ****. I dont undestand how they qualify the qulaity test. This company should be closed. In my Compaq presario V3000 laptop is the same graphic card is there. one day all of a sudden it stopped working. My laptop is new though (10 months old). I would suggest noone should buy compaq presario or any notebook having n Vidia graphic card. I am suffering for last one year. Now my laptop does not start/boot up even. Just black screen. No video..
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by pov3rty September 11, 2008 12:53 PM PDT
My HP notebook is dead also... lucky for HP, it was 2 months after my warranty ran out. HP has extended the warranty to 24 months for SOME of the notebooks having problems -- but not all. They refuse to service mine and many others like mine.

A forum thread is growing with angry HP owners demanding action. Come join us and let's see if we can rightfully get all of our notebooks serviced or replaced as they should be, and just like everyone else!

http://forums11.itrc.hp.com/service/forums/bizsupport/questionanswer.do?threadId=1191277
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by desrtspirit January 17, 2009 11:22 AM PST
my compaq presario v6000 notebook video went black screen last week. contacted hp/compaq
and they told me after confirming it was a bad vieo chip that they would repair it free and send out
a box to ship it to them. about a 20 minute wait and customer service came back on the line and stated
your warranty expired 62 days ago., and it would cost me 300-400 for them to repair.

HP stated they initiated a customer notification program in July 2007 to address pc's effected by this problem with Nvidia. (for registered customers) and has notified registered customers of the problem
(not the case with me) .
Update: nvidia sued for concealing defects in its graphic chips and failing to disclose problems. lawsuit filed in us district court of northern california. see-nanotech-the circuit blog 9/10/2008
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by Angie_B3 April 14, 2009 12:35 PM PDT
If anybody is experiencing problems with their HP laptop associated to this defect, visit www hplies com for useful information and helpful tips on dealing with HP.
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by michaeljayclark April 22, 2009 7:57 AM PDT
This problem still exists and it includes notebooks that ARE NOT on HP's list. When I leave my nortebook on overnight the video to go to a pattern and nothing can be seem. It does this on the LCD and on an external monitor. When I called HP with the problem they flatly refuse to replace the notebook. The person named mark refused to give me an employee number saying the service ticket will identify him. the ticket number is 8024275522. Mark tried to tell me that all the notebooks use the same chipset (LIE) and therefore it is not the chip because new notebooks dont have the problem. No way HP is using the same chipset in brand new notebooks. So he told me that HP's notebooks are doomed to fail after 2 to 3 years.
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by cns9999 May 2, 2009 7:07 AM PDT
My DV2503TX bought in Spetember 2007 died last month of the same problem. It is not covered by HP's extended warranty even though it has the SAME nVidia chip and was manufactured at the same time as the other laptops that are covered. HP told me it would cost $600 to repair since it is out of warranty by 6 months.

AVOID HP products. The HP brand and reputation mean nothing to the current management and they do not stand behind their products.

I have joined the class action lawsuit over this problem. I encourage all other HP laptop owners that are affected to also join.
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Brooke Crothers was formerly editor-at-large at CNET News.com, an analyst at IDC (International Data Corp.) Japan, and an editor at The Asian Wall Street Journal Weekly (The Wall Street Journal, Dow Jones), among other endeavors, including a recent hiatus from the tech industry when he co-managed an after-school math and reading center. Nanotech covers computer chip technology and how it defines the computing experience. He is a member of the CNET Blog Network, and is not an employee of CNET. Disclosure.

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