February 17, 2009 12:01 AM PST

How I became a prisoner of Outlook

by Dennis O'Reilly
  • Font size
  • Print
  • 29 comments

Last year, I decided to give Linux a try. Everything was going well, until I started working for a company that uses Microsoft Outlook for e-mail. There's simply no straightforward, reliable way to run Outlook on Linux. I tried Outlook Web Access, but the service strips code from HTML attachments, among other limitations.

(The company I worked for prior to my current employer used Lotus Notes, which is probably the only e-mail program in the world more proprietary than Outlook. Organizations must get some huge benefit from using these closed e-mail systems, because they sure make life difficult for users.)

I didn't get far with my Linux experiment, but I'm not giving up on my dream of a simpler PC. I'm ready for the true network computer. Unfortunately, Web apps aren't quite ready for me. More specifically, they're not ready for my boss, though they appear to be getting closer every day.

Do you really need all those programs on your hard drive?
It's downright wasteful to have huge software applications collecting dust on PC hard drives. Take a look at the programs with shortcuts on your Start menu. I bet you haven't opened half of them more than a handful of times in the last year, and a bunch you probably have used but once or not at all.

Adoption of Web-based versions of PC applications has been slowed by the services' limited features and performance compared to that of their desktop counterparts. Also, a dropped Internet link leaves you out in the cold.

Today, online services such as Zoho provide much of the functionality of various desktop apps, including Word, Excel, and PowerPoint. Zoho also includes an offline component that lets you continue to work without a Web connection. Likewise, Google Docs and Spreadsheets, Picasa, Wordpress, and more recently Gmail use Google Gears to allow offline access to your data in those services.

Security of Web-based apps comes up short
Of course, from an IT perspective, the most serious shortcoming of Web-based applications is their perceived lack of security. In particular, Google doesn't let you encrypt the data you store on the company's servers. Zoho's FAQ page states that the company will soon add a data-encryption option. Still, storing the organization's data on somebody else's servers can give system administrators nightmares.

There are still some applications I use regularly that don't have a Web equivalent: Outlook, the TopStyle HTML editor, and the Corel Paint Shop Pro imaging program, among a handful of others. The one thing all three of these programs have in common is that they were selected for me--by my boss.

Personally, I'm ready to go the Web-app-and-Netbook route. And as soon as I can say adios to the monster applications my work seems to require, I'll give the always-online life a try. Wish me luck convincing my employer to join me.

Dennis O'Reilly has covered PCs and other technologies in print and online since 1985. Along with more than a decade as editor for Ziff-Davis's Computer Select, Dennis edited PC World's award-winning Here's How section for more than seven years. He is a member of the CNET blog Network, and is not an employee of CNET.
Recent posts from Workers' Edge
Windows diagnostic tool big on info, short on help
Three more ways to slice and dice the Web
Firefox note-taking add-ons are Web supersavers
The best of Windows 7's new interface features
Four ways to reduce your PC's carbon footprint
Five tips for safe Web shopping
Browser security features compared
Essential Firefox security add-ons
Add a Comment (Log in or register) (29 Comments)
  • prev
  • 1
  • next
by bjrosen February 17, 2009 6:12 AM PST
Why don't you use Evolution? There is a Microsoft Exchange plugin for Evolution
Reply to this comment
by lukepuplett February 17, 2009 6:15 AM PST
It sounds like your employer, like so many others, clearly has a policy not to enable the standards based POP3 or IMAP protocols that Exchange Server supports due to the inherent security risks, I expect. I'm not a Notes expert, but I'm sure Domino also supports these old standards of email.
Reply to this comment
by gggg sssss February 17, 2009 7:57 AM PST
you have of course used the calendar and teh global address list and public folders with POP3, havent you LOL
by johnericanderson February 17, 2009 6:17 AM PST
You could always get a job writing for Red Hat. They'll probably *require* you to use Linux.
(But they won't have Outlook.)

Or, the open software folks *could* write a look-alike to Outlook. After all, it has been out for quite some time now. Like more than a decade. It has become THE standard for business communication.

The free software folks don't have a compatible alternative?
Hmm. Oh well, back to that which works, for anyone, in any language, on any machine, on any network.
How limiting!
Reply to this comment
by protagonistic February 17, 2009 9:01 AM PST
In how many ways are you wrong, let me count the ways:

1. It doesn't work
2. It doesn't work for me
3. It doesn't work on my machine
4. It doesn't work in my wife's native language

I will have to admit it does work on my network, though, and you were right about the limiting part although I suspect that was you being facetious rather than trying to be accurate.

So your score would seem to be one right and four wrong. In any but a politicians world that would add up to a rather big loss.
by gggg sssss February 17, 2009 5:19 PM PST
@ protagonisti

So you , as one in a million think that becaus eit doe snot work for you that it is somehow bad? That becasue your wife cant use it means that Otlook is somehow deficient? LOL
by protagonistic February 19, 2009 2:47 PM PST
@gggg sssss

You seem to have a problem with your reading skills. At no point did I say my wife couldn't use Outlook. If you would actually read the post I was replying to you would see that he mentions "in any language" which is obviously a false statement as were several of his other points. Might I suggest engaging brain before replying next time.
by sanenazok February 17, 2009 6:19 AM PST
What I strange little article. Granted I haven't bothered with this in a while...I strictly remember running Outlook 2000/XP using wine. Oh look someone else did it too: http://toastytech.com/guis/wine.html.
Reply to this comment
by louisgephardt February 17, 2009 6:31 AM PST
You could always try FirstClass... Not saying they're the best product on the market, but they certainly have very reliable clients for Windows, Macintosh, Linux and are going to soon release clients for iPhone, BlackBerry and Windows Mobile. They currently support ActiveSync for PDA/Smartphone Synchronization. You can download a free, evaluation version of FirstClass Server and Client at http://www.intl.firstclass.com

Enjoy!
Reply to this comment
by thenet411 February 17, 2009 6:43 AM PST
The author said: "Organizations must get some huge benefit from using these closed e-mail systems, because they sure make life difficult for users"

On the contrary, closed email systems are for the benefit of MOST users. IT staff often have to deal with hundreds or thousands of users. Most of whom can't be bothered to learn the tools of their trade (email communication being one of them). Exchange with Outlook and domain group policies make using e-mail bearable for the majority of users. Automatic configuration of email settings for new employees or new PCs for existing employees reduces time spent running to user's desks or remoting into their machines. Outlook Web Access and its Outlook-ish interface make it easy for remote users to get to their email anywhere with a familiar interface.

Having spent many years in the ISP business, giving out the SMTP, POP, IMAP, and NNTP settings(despite the fact that these same settings were listed on our support website) and walking users through configuring their email clients on a daily basis, I was ecstatic to see the amount of automation in the Outlook/Exchange relationship. Nowadays that is becoming less of a problem with autodiscover records but it used to be a major time waster for IT staff.

As far as making life difficult for users, that is really a non-issue. IT staff are there to make life easier for employees. 99% of which are only too happy to use the software they are told to use. That 1% of users who fancy themselves "techno-savvy" are usually a major headache for IT staff. Always complaining that the latest drivers are not installed (despite the fact that the IT department has standardized on a driver set that has been tested to work well in their environment), complaining that they can't install LimeWire (a big no-no for obvious reasons) and generally making themselves a threat to the delicate balance and hard-fought stability of the corporate network.

Here is a hint for the author: If you are not part of the IT staff, follow their guidelines. They are better at this than you are. That's what they get paid to do. If you think you know better, apply for an IT position the next time one opens. I suspect that it is actually you who is making life difficult for the IT staff, not the other way around.
Reply to this comment
by fazalmajid February 17, 2009 8:29 AM PST
Typical arrogant IT attitude. Part of the reason why Microsoft technologies are so popular in IT departments is that their inherent unreliability and unmanageability means job security for the people who operate them.
by thenet411 February 17, 2009 8:41 AM PST
If you used these technologies you would know that they are far from unreliable and unmanageable as long as you know what you're doing. Your response is typical of an open source zealot who has limited experience in the IT industry with large amounts of users.
by tm_anon February 17, 2009 9:06 AM PST
@thenet411

If you'd ever given another technology a try for more than the amount of time it takes to realize it's different from Windows or other MS technologies and therefore "must be wrong", then you would start to realize that yes, MS tech is much less reliable and more difficult to use than other technologies.

By the way, your response to fazalmajid continues to show how arrogant and ignorant your attitude is. The IT industry seems to be filled with just the same sort of people for the most part. Of course, the people who actually know what they're talking about don't work IT for the most part, they open their own computer shops, build their own and sell them.
by thenet411 February 17, 2009 9:17 AM PST
On the contrary. I spent the first years of my career doing what you claim to do. I used all kinds of technologies including many open source systems in running ISPs on *nix, Windows, and even Mac platforms. I still use many different technologies in my personal computing pursuits.

But when it comes to my corporate environment, I use MS technologies for desktops because thats what 99% of my users know how to use and I use MS Exchange with Outlook because it works well and offers the features my users need. Simple as that. I am absolutely aware that there are other technologies that can offer the same or similar features but what I use works and works well. I haven't had an email outage in several years because I know what I'm doing.

My response to fazalmajid may be considered arrogant but it's also the truth. If you are not a member of an IT department, let them do their jobs. If you think you know better anyone is more than welcome to apply for a position and put their money where their mouth is. If you are the antisocial type and can't be bothered to work with a team because you know so much more than everyone else, open your own store like you did!
by gggg sssss February 17, 2009 5:21 PM PST
@ thenet - and you woudl realize that outlook and exchaneg with a central message store is MUCH more manageable than hundreds of pop3 clients storing messages god knows where.
by gggg sssss February 17, 2009 8:00 AM PST
Outlook and even Notes are corporate systems, designed to tie far flung elemets of data together.

What pop clinet knows how to book a meeting room> What imao client knows about getting data from a database?

A real enterprise doing real work will use an entrprise system. Amatures will use theother stuff mentioned.
Reply to this comment
by c4s2k3 February 17, 2009 9:02 AM PST
I understand your point, but on the other hand, what is wrong with using the right tool for the job at hand? Who decided that an e-mail client should do so much more than just deal with e-mail easily, reliably, and with a high degree of compatibility with open standards? I find Outlook to be a very cumbersome email client from a usage perspective and what's worse, it does not play nice with standard mail attachments. It seems for a lot of users, the default settings cause it to send attachments in some bogus 'winmail.dat' envelope that causes problems to the recipient if they do not use Outlook.

I realize others may see it differently, but I prefer a good, usable email client for mail, and dedicated, equally capable tools for other functions (like calendar, db access, etc.). That way I don't have a single point of failure that brings all productivity to a grinding halt if it has a problem. I guess it's the same reason I don't like those all in one printers/scanner/copier/fax machines, but to each his own.
by storm14k February 17, 2009 12:32 PM PST
To the contrary an enterprise doing real work doesn't have time for playing around with these systems. In some of the larger places I have worked meeting notices were a mess. It took forever to pull up the list of invitees in some instances. It got to the point that sometimes I didn't even want to open my email to see all the garbled cancellations and updates to meetings. Outlook isn't user friendly and people screw it up all the time. Maybe I shouldn't say that its not user friendly.....the problem is that it tries to do too much. And when people get frustrated they start sending plain emails instead of trying to use all of the features. And you always have the "power user" that wants to use every feature of Outlook and Office though it takes them longer to get something done and 7/10 times the user on the other end has to learn to use what they have done. Its really just a big bunch of toys.

In the end you end up with overkill for a basic email system. I've actually found my email experience more enjoyable at a company that didn't use Exchange and doesn't require Outlook. Without all the toys and distractions emails are about communicating in a straight forward manner.
by fazalmajid February 17, 2009 8:26 AM PST
Get VMware (or the free VirtualBox) to run legacy Windows apps in a virtualized compatibility layer. They work quite well. In fact, given how insecure Outlook and IE are, I would recommend using them from inside VMs for compartmentalization even if you run Windows as your OS, just to contain the damage when (not if) they get exploited.
Reply to this comment
by Kev_Orng February 17, 2009 10:33 AM PST
Maybe I'm missing something because I have never worked for a company with more than 20 people, and I've never really used Outlook, but what is it about Outlook that is different from other email programs? Why can't you install the email program you want and then add in the email accounts you need to access?
Reply to this comment
by gggg sssss February 17, 2009 5:26 PM PST
you are indeed missing something. shared calendars, shared inboxes, forms, central message store, workflow managemnet, undelete, integrated directory, read receipts, message recall....
by john55440 February 17, 2009 10:41 AM PST
At a time when personal computers have massive amounts of computing power, it's a shame to use them as Dumb Internet Terminals, for web-apps.

Web-apps bring with them security, privacy, reliability, control, and performance issues/risks.

I'm quite content to use MS Outlook on my PC.
Reply to this comment
by mycall February 17, 2009 10:42 AM PST
Take a look at CrossOver Linux (codeweavers.com) as they are currently at "silver/" status for Outlook 2000 and Outlook 2003.. that might do the trick.
Reply to this comment
by gggg sssss February 17, 2009 5:27 PM PST
of course the rest of the workd is now working on Outlook 2007 and exchange 2008.
by pizzapanther February 17, 2009 12:28 PM PST
Been using Cross Over Office for Linux for about 8 months with Outlook 2003 and it works great.
Reply to this comment
by swiftnet February 17, 2009 12:32 PM PST
If you must run Windows business apps in Linux, the best way is to use a VM. KVM is built into the Linux kernel and is very easy to setup, provided your system has enough ram. If you setup seamless rdp or nx, you can open up a true Windows application window on your Linux desktop. This works extremely well, the user experience is comparable to a native Windows desktop running the same app. Remember to remove all unnecessary services from Windows since you are using it only for a certain app or three.

As for the MS Exchange crowd Lovin' it.... MS Exchange requires so much more maintenance when compared to a system such as Kolab. Outlook is very cumbersome and quite slow. I've set up offices with different email clients depending on their particular needs with simple scripts that setup everything for the user. A little bash/perl/python/awk and sed go a long way in making IT life easier.
Reply to this comment
by gggg sssss February 17, 2009 5:31 PM PST
lets see - you create a user in AD, click OK to the email question, and the user is set up in exchange. You go to outlook, you type in the server name, you type in the user name and click ok. Does not seem THAT hard. Or push out a group policy to do the client part without ANY mouseclicks. Not sure how that is SO much more............
by Macbrewer February 17, 2009 12:33 PM PST
Outlook/Exchange is simply a monopoly move on MSFT's part. They will never support anything outside their monopoly OS, and it would be rather trivial for them to do so. In fact, it is used deliberately against any other viable platform. There really is only one other viable platform, Macintosh. Here, MS released Outlook for OS 9, for which people had been clamoring for years, only when Apple released OS X and was trying to get people to move to the new OS.

Outlook offers very little in terms of business functionality. About the only thing it does is integrate calendaring into email, and makes the ultimate open technology, email, into a proprietary mess.

And for those of you who actually are so dim as to think Outlook ads to security, that is laughable. In fact, a large number of the viruses are propagated primary via Outlook's extremely lax security. Coupled with Windows, it's no wonder there are so many viruses plaguing Windows users. One can add security to any form of email via encryption.

And there is no reason why an extremely simple technology such as email can't work correctly via a web browser. No one needs a fast computer to send an email. Email was just as efficient in the 80's as it is today. We are only talking about sending a few bits here and there for most email. And attachments are handled just as well using any other (real) email standard.
Reply to this comment
by gggg sssss February 18, 2009 6:15 PM PST
you missed outlook business contact manager, you missed integration with great plains
(29 Comments)
  • prev
  • 1
  • next
advertisement

Google's top antitrust defender: 'It's fun'

Life at Google is certainly different than government service for senior competition counsel Dana Wagner, but his past and present collide on a daily basis at the search giant.

CE industry hopes 'Avatar' is a hit

Good box office returns for the 3D film are expected to spur 3D entertainment from the theater to the living room.

advertisement

About Workers' Edge

Dennis O'Reilly has covered PCs and other technologies in print and online since 1985. Along with more than a decade as editor for Ziff-Davis's Computer Select, Dennis edited PC World's award-winning Here's How section for more than seven years. He is a member of the CNET Blog Network and is not an employee of CNET.

Add this feed to your online news reader

Workers' Edge topics

advertisement
advertisement

Inside CNET News

Scroll Left Scroll Right