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March 7, 2008 10:07 AM PST

Mozilla VP talks IE 8, Firefox 3

by Ina Fried
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LAS VEGAS--Mozilla Vice President Mike Schroepfer said Microsoft's decision to support a more standards-compliant mode by default should keep Web developers from having to waste so much time.

With the current set-up, he said that developers have a fairly easy time getting a site that renders properly in Opera, Safari, and Firefox, but often spend a lot of energy trying to get that same site to also render correctly in Internet Explorer.

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"Web developers burn through a tremendous amount of time getting their sites to work with IE because of IE's special quirks," said Schroepfer, who I caught up with here at Mix '08.

He said that Microsoft's move toward greater embrace of standards with Internet Explorer 8 is a good thing.

"There are some encouraging things there and I hope to see more," he said.

In particular, it would be helpful if Microsoft gave a roadmap for which standards it planned to support down the road, that way Web developers could decide earlier to invest time. He said he would really like to see Microsoft support a new graphics standard known as scalable vector graphics.

"That would be a great win for the Web," he said.

Meanwhile, Schroepfer also talked up the benefits of Firefox 3, which is just hitting its fourth beta and is edging closer to a final release. In particular, he pointed to the browser's "Awesome bar" that remembers not only specific Web addresses that have been visited but also other information from the page. For example typing in "televisions" might bring up a recent TV search on Amazon, even though television wasn't in the address.

"Once you use it you actually can't use any other browser," he said. Also on tap are improved speed and antimalware features, he said.

During her years at CNET News, Ina Fried has changed beats several times, changed genders once, and covered both of the Pirates of Silicon Valley. These days, most of her attention is focused on Microsoft. E-mail Ina.
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If he gets that non-standards wastes time....
by Leria March 7, 2008 11:33 AM PST
Why hasn't he been pushing for standards compliance in IE since DAY ONE?
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Because he has been
by rapier1 March 7, 2008 11:41 AM PST
It might be useful to read the first sentence of the article again
where they clearly state that the person is a VP with *Mozilla* not
Microsoft.
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Once upon a time...
by krosavcheg March 7, 2008 12:23 PM PST
The huge player in the market was Netscape and it was Microsoft's browser that was more compliant with the standards. Too bad they didn't comprehend the importance of maintaining compliance with standards and spent all their time in adding non-standard enhancements.
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right!
by passionproductions March 7, 2008 2:26 PM PST
Right!
Once you use it you actually can't use any other browser
by AppleSuxLeo March 8, 2008 1:38 PM PST
Who is this Mozilla jackass trying to kid. I find FF crashes as often as I.E.7 (which isn`t very often), but I.E. works on more sites. I find myself using I.E. more than FireFart.
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I pushed for using IE where I work..
by krosavcheg March 8, 2008 8:01 PM PST
because it was so much better than Netscape and yet now I spend almost all my time running Firefox.

For me, it works better than IE but if IE fits your needs better then that's good for you. Just quit being an A$$ about it and definitely don't let the other a$$es bother you.
Standards
by skrubol March 10, 2008 7:53 AM PDT
The reason you find more web pages render correctly in IE than FF is because they are written for IE, which does not comply to standards. FF does comply to the standards, so the nonstandard stuff doesn't look right in IE.
Honestly I don't know why IE would want to become standards compliant. Being the largest player, and with many webpage authors too lazy to check their pages in more than one browser, it's to their advantage to be a bit incompatible with everyone else.
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