February 18, 2008 6:00 AM PST

A YouTube for artists

DeviantArt gets 1.5 billion page views a month, making it one of the most popular Web sites that many people have never even heard of.

Despite the name, only a fraction of the art on the site is what might be labeled deviant. In reality, the site boasts millions of user-uploaded works of art, everything from photography to 3D digital conceptual art to old-fashioned canvas-and-paint portraits.

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Think of it as a YouTube for artists trying to show their own work. Pieces can be viewed, commented on, even added to a user's own gallery of favorites. The range of work defies characterization, but there is a heavy dose of cartooning and fantasy art as well as some adult content, which is blocked for unregistered users.

In some cases, artists have posted their digital leftovers in a "stock" pile that other artists can use as the genesis for their own work.

The site's goal, in a nutshell, is to democratize and inspire art.

British photographer and art student Lara Jade said it's the community of artists and diversity of artwork that drew her to the site back in 2004.

"Everyone can post their work, no matter what medium they work in," Jade said in an e-mail interview. "There's also the opportunity to get feedback and suggestions on your work from peers."

In a few cases, she said, she's worked in collaboration with other DeviantArt creators.

The downside, she said, is sometimes she finds that her work is being used by someone else without her permission and in ways she never intended. In the worst case, she said, she found her work used as the cover for a porn DVD. (She's suing over that one.)

Despite that, Jade continues to post on the site, particularly because of the feedback she gets from the large community of artists and art devotees.

"When I first started out, my work was very amateurish as I was just beginning to experiment with photography and Adobe Photoshop," she said. "Most of the helpful critiques I've received from other artists on DeviantArt have made me want to try new things and continue to improve the quality of my work," she said.

DeviantArt is itself at a crossroads.

Growing to millions of artists has meant that the company and its site has had to find ways to scale its community, a challenge to the way it has done business.

"We love the way that deviantART has grown organically; artists telling artists, art lovers telling art lovers, for 7 and a half years, he said. "We grow internally in a very organic manner as well. Much of our team comes directly to us from within our (now rather huge) community."

The site has largely relied on the honor system and self-policing to ensure that artwork is used in the way it was intended. Often, though, artists put high-resolution images of their work on the site, leaving plenty of opportunity for the unscrupulous.

The site doesn't go in to details on its finances, but it is a for-profit entity that generates significant revenue--"Meeeeelllllliiiiooooonnnnnnnns!," according to co-founder and CEO Angelo Sotira.

The site is owned largely by current and former staffers--there are close to 50 full-time employees, with much of its sales reinvested in growth and new developments.

Sotira said he had been hoping the site could keep its workforce to fewer than 65 employees.

"We've been hoping to keep it under 65, but I'm afraid we're in need of quite a few more of the best and brightest this year," he said. "We'll be growing to 80."

Last week, the 8-year-old site announced that it had received its 50 millionth artist-generated submission. In January, the site had 23 million unique visitors. It also launched a feature that allows non-artists to start their own art "collection" of others' works and share it with friends.

Conceptual artist Daniel LuVisi said he has gotten a lot of work through the site, including some freelance work for some pretty big companies.

Much of his art stems from the worlds of movies and computer games, two of his other passions. "My work is mostly inspired by those...because they're the reason I'm here in the first place," he said. "Art was brought out of me from comics, cartoons, films, and games. It's definitely a huge inspiration."

LuVisi likes the exposure he gets from posting on the site, but most values the tight-knit artist community feeling.

"I just pray it never turns into a popularity contest or the likes of MySpace or Facebook," he said.

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popularity contest?
by terminalblue February 18, 2008 7:45 AM PST
DA has been that for years...its full of fanart, tracers, and amateur pornographers. it does have its moments, but those are mostly for the lulz.
http://encyclopediadramatica.com/Deviantart
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What do you mean "never heard of"?
by Wookiee-1138 February 18, 2008 9:25 AM PST
I know almost nothing of art, and I've known about deviant art for years. Of course, I have quite a few Otaku friends who swear by the site.
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cannot join.
by mrbonaparte February 18, 2008 9:41 AM PST
I've tried to join but it says I'm banned. I've never been there before.
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deviantART
by shell4art February 18, 2008 10:48 AM PST
The greatest place to be!

shell4art!
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similar
by spriter59 February 18, 2008 11:59 AM PST
another great site, at least for photography is
http://interfacelift.com/wallpaper/
unlike deviantart it is moderated, which keeps most of the low-
quality content out, but also means that users don't have full power
over their portfolios. sort of a different site but very cool
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Banned by IP address range
by vgfisher February 18, 2008 12:58 PM PST
Same thing happened to me. Looks like they ban whole ranges of IP addresses when someone in that IP address range repeatedly posts harassing material. They can't just ban a specific IP since a lot of people have dynamically allocated IP addresses... try registering from home instead of work, or vice versa...
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DA is the best site for artists
by LindaLisa February 18, 2008 1:16 PM PST
As a member of DeviantArt, it has become a wonderful place for me and others share the same feelings that we all help each other learn and explore more about art and each other. There is no better place for real artists to grow. Just as Danny said, we all hope that DA never turns into a site where it is not about the art and become about what is more popular or "who" is. We don't want this to become another Myspace site.
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ask someone
by tosandrew February 18, 2008 1:40 PM PST
DA has been having some probs like that so ask somebody to ask the admins about it or go to the help desk and the FAQ's
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great place to find artists
by www.hdgreetings.com February 18, 2008 2:33 PM PST
I've hired artists from DA multiple times - some really talented people there.

Didn't think I'd ever see the site on news.com but hey, good for them.
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Let's not give DeviantArt a bad name, plz!
by Helen Baq February 18, 2008 3:09 PM PST
YouTube for artists? Could you have made deviantArt sound any cheaper? I suppose you could have called it a 'myspace for artists'... deviantArt is a gallery site for artists who wish to show and sell their work, not some cheesy teenybop place to throng copyright violations! >:(

And what's this about "In some cases, artists have posted their digital leftovers in a "stock" pile that other artists can use as the genesis for their own work."??? I happen to have a stock account on dA. Neither I nor any of my friends who have stock accounts post our 'digital leftovers'. We go to a great deal of work, and often, expense to provide quality photographs taken specifically for artists to use for reference and photomanipulations. They are not left overs nor are they scraps. I take a great deal of pride in my stock work and I don't post anything I wouldn't use for art myself. Stock art is an art form within itself and a necessary art supply like paints and charcoal, it is not a crutch for some n00blet who is incapable of doing something on their own.

I really resent a lot of what was said in this article and how it was put. deviantArt goes to a great deal of pains to try to keep the myspace crowd away, so to compare it to YouTube is like sending an open invitation for all the internet kiddies to post their myspace shots everywhere.

Oh, and about the 'collections'... I wouldn't call it something for non-artists. It's for the dA members to be able to sort their favorite pieces from around the site into categories for convenience. Even us artist have favorite works by others and favorite artists. :|
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