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January 3, 2008 7:26 AM PST

Is MSN Premium a rip-off?

by Ina Fried
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It's not the company's main focus these days, but Microsoft does still offer a paid service called MSN Premium, which offering services like a phishing filter and parental controls.

The thing is, most of the product's "premium" features are available for free in some form via Windows, Windows Live, or both.

Enthusiast site Windows Secrets thought it was time to point this fact out to the people who are paying Microsoft as much as $10 a month for MSN Premium. Of the 21 features Microsoft touts, Windows Secrets figures only one or two aren't available for free in the same or similar form.

It's unclear how many people are actually paying Microsoft these days for MSN Premium. Many of those who subscribe to MSN Premium get it not by paying Microsoft directly, but rather because the software maker has a deal with their Internet service provider. So they may not be getting much, but they probably aren't paying anything extra either.

For me, this all points to the fact that Microsoft has some legacy issues it needs to deal with and highlights the benefit that the Microsoft vs. Google war is having for consumers.

During her years at CNET News, Ina Fried has changed beats several times, changed genders once, and covered both of the Pirates of Silicon Valley. These days, most of her attention is focused on Microsoft. E-mail Ina.
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MSN doesn't offer free e-mail
by calhydro January 3, 2008 8:05 AM PST
I would like to drop the service, but MSN doesn't have free e-mail. If I drop the service can keep my @msn.com e-mail (90% of my mail uses this address). In addition my hotmail and live id accounts are tied to the msn e-mail.

Is there a way to keep theses addresses and not pay?
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"e-mail is not free"
by VixenStaratMSN January 3, 2008 8:23 AM PST
I've had Msn for a very long time, before even "hotmail", I have never paid... They keep asking me to upgrade, but I don't. I have free e-mail, But I think, once you've paid it's a paid account. You may have to get a new e-mail.
RE: MSN doesn't offer free e-mail
by davidng150 January 3, 2008 9:10 AM PST
Yes, you can cancel your MSN account and still keep your MSN e-mail. I canceled my MSN Dial-Up and Premium account over a year ago, and still have my MSN e-mail address without having to pay anything else (in other words, it's now a "free" Windows Live Hotmail account).
Re: MSN doesn't offer free e-mail
by NPGMBR January 3, 2008 9:16 AM PST
Yes you can cancel your MSN account and retain your @msn.com address. I did it a few years ago and still use my @msn.com address.
Absolutely
by goldenknee January 3, 2008 11:03 AM PST
Absolutely you can keep your @msn.com. I had a @hotmail.com address for years and had tons of spam because i gave out that address but now i just created a new live id using the @msn.com and it is totally free, works just like @hotmail.com
MSN vs Hotmail...
by zzuebe2 January 3, 2008 4:59 PM PST
I think I would go ahead and drop the MSN account and go with the free "Hotmail"! I use it along with another email account and have had NO problems. I get both accounts, (one with a different IP), on the same screen with "Windows Live". Give it a try. GOOD LUCK !!
It's not a ripoff for my parents
by thuber January 3, 2008 8:20 AM PST
They love using the all-in-one MSN client. I had been an MSN Premium beta tester and got a free year once it was released. They were included on my account. I never really used it but once it came time to pay I tried transferring my folks over to the free services, but after a couple days they decided it was worth it to them to pay the $10 per month and have everything in one place.

So, while yes, there are most likely some people who are paying for these services and not getting any benefit over what's available for free, there are also people like my parents who've made a concious choice to pay a premium for their ease of use.

Timothy
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I agree 100%
by Super2online January 3, 2008 8:33 AM PST
MSN Premium was designed for the crowd that needs simplicity and an all in one client. I work with hundreds of women who remain AOL client diehards for the same exact reason.

Try and understand the the needs of the people who are using the products and you will gain a better appreciation for it's demand.
Of course it is a ripoff
by The_Decider January 3, 2008 8:40 AM PST
At no time has it ever been worth the money.

Look at Hotmail, how much does one have to pay to get POP access with Windows Live Hotmail Plus(LOL which idiot thought that up)?

Gmail is free and has lots of features but Google is at less trustworthy then MS.

People paying these outrageous fees should look into getting their own mail server. It is easy, cheap, and far better then having to have a hotmail or msn email address.
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I had MSN Premium for 3 years...
by gsmiller88 January 3, 2008 9:35 AM PST
The only feature I really used was the McAfee virus and firewall
software. When I switched to Mac OS X I cancelled my subscription.
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Spend a few minutes with the 'rents
by real_bgiel January 3, 2008 9:53 AM PST
Show them how to open a browser. Show them how to open and send email.

You'd be amazed how smart your parents still are.
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For some, it is a very good deal!
by RainCaster January 3, 2008 10:17 AM PST
There have always been people who have needed an extra hand when navigating the internet. "Training wheels" if you will. That has been AOLs business model since day 1, and nobody has faulted them for it. MSN spent a huge amount of money to develop an integrated browser experience that is easy to newbies to understand and navigate with. Unlike AOL, this one does not screw up the desktop experience.
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Dial Up
by thedreaming January 3, 2008 11:40 AM PST
While still in use, even today, more and more of the web requires a high speed connection. Dial-up connections are a thing of the past and it's only a matter of time when all dial-up isp's are the way of the Dodo.
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You wish
by catch23 January 3, 2008 12:51 PM PST
As do I, and everyone I know that has dial up. But the reality of rural America is you often don't have access to cable or DSL. Satellite is sometimes an option, but sometimes not.

And since there is no 'business case' for building the infrastructure, I don't see that changing for quite some time.
Have we totally forgot dial up?
by jscott418 January 3, 2008 1:51 PM PST
Some of these idiots with Cnet forget that MSN might still be
around because they are a IP. Wake up. Not everybody has
broadband cable or DSL. Some just can't get it. My father in law
lives too far from town for DSL and he has no option for cable. So
he still use's dial up through MSN. Unless your willing to fork out
for satellite internet their is no other option for many.
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MSN Rip Off?
by Tegrity January 3, 2008 3:26 PM PST
Nice hit piece. No need for homework, just a cheap shot. Cnet is sure going down hill. Twice in two articles Cnet has disapointed me with garbage flung to the masses. I hope your new PR company can sell you to the bloggers you are going to need the help if this continues. As for me.. I am moving on from Cnet, it's seen it's day.
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by beatupmsnuser July 2, 2008 11:02 AM PDT
For two days, I have been tortured by MSN Premium, a supposedly free service bundled with my Verizon account. I'm hoping someone anyone, YOU, can tell me what gives. I have had Verizon DSL for about a year now. I have used MSN the my.msn.com and the email etc.; Suddenly, without warning, on June 30, I get this popup message. "Your MSN account is no longer valid. Please contact your customer support. And at the bottom of it is the ominous "If you click okay, your msn page will close. If you don't click ok, it will close in five minutes." True.
Voila. My free lance writing biz just got knee capped.
All my emails are gone as is the account used by my clients to reach me.
I have now spent two days in Verizon/MSN's Twilight Zone.
Verizon's reps have a repertoire of stories to bury me in: Here are a few: "You have no MSN Account." "Your MSN account was canceled June 30 -- ooooooh, that's today"; "VErizon is no longer associated with MSN. you need to sign up with MSN and pay them $9.;95 a month." No, you dont have to do that. You get free MSN Premium with Verizon."; " how long have you had your account with us. Oh, that long? Well, that's the reason. You need to to www.verizon.net/micro/betterway and you will be asked if you need to use the MSN portal and then just say yes. Oh,no,I can't send that to you in an email but if it doesnt work, please call back.We will be most happy to help you."; then, "Well, that didn't work because you have no account with MSN, you need to call Verizon."; "Oh no, you need to call Tech Support; I am billing": "oh no, you need to call Bilig, we don't do that here. Your MSN account was canceled by Verizon. We can't help you." ' you never had an MSN account." .." Do you get the picture? In the mean time I have burned up six hours being chased around MSn Verizon land. What in the h***l is happening in these two companies. Oh that I could switch to another dSL company! Sorry, but Does anyone have any productive suggestions?Please. I can't do my work and I have to change my email everywhere! I was told other things that also led to dead ends. But I will spare you. Please, Someone out there. What is going on? Thanks for any suggestions you can give to get meut of this V/MSN Kafka like maze. Johanna
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by turo62 November 3, 2008 2:32 PM PST
All I can say is : I'll take MSN premium or Windows internet explorer 7 over that way over-rated Mosella firefox 3 . The main reason; If you don't already have the latest version of Adobe flash player installed , then Firefox is USELESS! YOU CAN"T PLAY ANY VIDEOS!! Good luck in trying to install Adobe flashplayer 9.1. Oh yes, check out the latest version of REAL PLAYER. Guess what you have to have.; that's right, FIREFOX with Adobe flashplayer 9 or better!
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by andika69 January 14, 2009 7:50 PM PST
I have the same hotmail account for 14 years. I signed up for MSN when it came out. It was free. I think there was an MSN 6 and 8 and 9 then the premium. As I remember MSN 8 was free, then I upgraded and I started to pay... I loved the old free version of MSN, but I couldn't keep it. Anyhow I called MSN numerous times to see if I can cancel, but since my primary account is my hotmail account, if I cancel I will loose all my accounts. My MSN accounts.
I have Comcast, and as my understanding Comcast gives you MSN, it is including in your internet subscription. So basically I am throwing my money out. I don't want to loose my e-mail. This is just soooo wrong. I don't even know what to do, it is impossible to to deal with them.
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by jmssol March 2, 2009 1:50 PM PST
Actually, I had the same dilemma and found out the 19.95/month that I was paying for a "subscription" was actually paying for dial-up access that I never used! I cancelled my "subscription" and was able to keep my @msn.com email. Of course MSN won't reimburse me for the last 8 years! Anybody in the same boat?
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