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November 28, 2007 1:41 PM PST

Where are all of those donated XO laptops going?

by Ina Fried
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Given all the interest around One Laptop Per Child's "Give One Get One" program, I've been wondering just where all those laptops that are being donated are actually going.

For those who have been in the dark, the organization is trying to boost its low-cost laptop program through a promotion in which people in the U.S. can pay $399 to donate one of the rugged Linux laptops and also get one for themselves. The program's terms and conditions say little, other than that it will go to a child in a country on the UN's list of least developed countries. But I was wondering whether the laptops would go to people in countries that were already customers of OLPC or prospective customers or countries that had otherwise eschewed the One Laptop Per Child initiative.

This school was the first test deployment site for OLPC's XO laptops.

(Credit: Khaled Hassounah)

An OLPC spokeswoman said that donated laptops would be headed to countries such as Afghanistan, Rwanda, Cambodia, Haiti, and Mongolia--places that generally couldn't afford big laptop giveaways. In general, she said that the donated laptops would help "jump-start" a program in those places, though she said Mongolia and perhaps others on that list might also be eventual customers.

As long as I had her on the phone, I thought I would see if the organization had any response to reports that a Nigerian company is suing OLPC for patent infringement over its keyboard design.

"OLPC is aware of the claims made by Lagos Analysis Corp. (LANCOR) but has not been served with any legal documents related to this," she said. "OLPC has requested that LANCOR identify the patents or copyrights in question, but the company has yet to substantiate its claim against OLPC with any documentation. OLPC has the utmost respect for the rights of intellectual property owners and all the intellectual property used in the XO Laptop is either owned by OLPC or properly licensed."

During her years at CNET News, Ina Fried has changed beats several times, changed genders once, and covered both of the Pirates of Silicon Valley. These days, most of her attention is focused on Microsoft. E-mail Ina.
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Gawd, they are giving those poor kids Linux to start off with?
by WJeansonne November 28, 2007 3:30 PM PST
Talk about ridiculous! 1960's technology being thrown in the laps of these poor kids. Give them Windows for god's sake. At least it's intuitive.
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Got another $135.00
by bradyme November 28, 2007 3:53 PM PST
No do you? X 70,000 Microsoft Licences???

Oh you don't? OK do you have a durable PC like this which can run on crank power?? Oh you don't??

What part of "Poor Counties" of this story did you not get??
nothing is intuitive about Winblows
by Dalkorian November 28, 2007 4:12 PM PST
Nothing is intuitive about Winblows, except for hacking it.

Linux at least opens some horizons for them. There are enough
flavors of *nix (Unix, Linux, Darwin/OSX) that they would be
comfortable in any *real* OS. Plus it has security designed into
the system from the start instead of being tacked on as an
afterthought (read "more secure", not "perfectly secure" of
course - nothing is perfect).

Winblows just makes sure they can do nothing their whole lives
except ***** for M$. And the only people who find Winblows
"intuitive" have already sold themselves to M$. Hope they paid
you well.
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What you use you love
by renderedwear November 28, 2007 4:55 PM PST
The only advantage one operating system has over another is the experience the operator has. If you use an operating system from
the time you start using a computer it will seem natural to you and
other operating systems will seem poorly done.
Personally I still miss a console, having grown up on dos.
don't even respond to WJeansonne
by cyxs November 28, 2007 8:30 PM PST
She is an astroturfer, doing a quick search leads to comments her constantly blasting Open Source items and promoting M$. So I am not commenting beyond that.
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30 year old O/S
by n122103 November 28, 2007 10:08 PM PST
Linux is unqestionably a spawn out of the 1970s UNIX mentality, but as far as I understand it, Windows NT is just a remake of VMS, another 1970s operating system. The only stuff I've heard of that's really deviant of the two big schools of though seems to be QNX and BeOS and my friend's 'concept OS', pwnOS. But to be honest I haven't looked hard.
GAWD DOG
by zboll November 29, 2007 9:01 AM PST
shut up you ******* *******, linux has not even been around since the 1960's. Are you thinking of the OS built by Bell laboratories, can you think of the name gawd?
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Why not?
by Wookiee-1138 November 28, 2007 7:58 PM PST
I first started using computers as a kid in the mid '80s when Windows was merely a supplement to DOS command lines.
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Huh?
by chengiz November 28, 2007 8:13 PM PST
That's the news? You made a phone call? Congratulations.
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The Real Story
by hughbristic November 28, 2007 8:53 PM PST
I think the real story--the one that is not being talked about in the popular media--is that it is an attempt to do an end run around the current operating system paradigm. The One Laptop Per Child computer, now called the XO, runs the Sugar interface http://laptop.org/laptop/interface/index.shtml), which uses "Zoom" levels inherently tied to networking and a social constructionist learning philosophy. In the developed world, we are locked into the desktop metaphor and any effort to replace that here with something "better" is unlikely to succeed because there are so many technologies built on top of that foundation.

While I find the system intriguing, I think its simplified interface is based on an underestimation of the intelligence of children. Like MS Office's annoying habit of hiding infrequently used menu items, it takes the idea of hiding the complexity too far. My son at two could use Windows 2000 for simple tasks. At three, he has located files that I had hidden on my computer on our home network. He often does things on there that I haven't shown him how to do. It is *that* intuitive. Besides, you're not doing the poor children in developing nations any favors by teaching them to use a system so vastly different from what is used in the rest of the world.

I worry that a bunch of idealistic CS and HCI theorists like Nicholas Negroponte and Alan Kay are using the children of the third world as guinea pigs for their pet theories. They can do this because those in leadership in poor countries are often unaccountable to their citizenry (see Libya). In such countries, you can wow a few powerful people with your unproven and, for the moment, subsidized technologies and you can get them to spend gazillions of dollars in tax money and aid subsidizing your vision of what computers should be. It reminds me of the hubris of China's Great Leap Forward and the disastrous rapid development schemes attempted by post-colonial governments in Africa in the 60s and 70s.

Say what you will about Microsoft, at least corporations are, in the final analysis, accountable to their customers. If they build something nobody wants, they go out of business. If you're "giving something away" you don't need to listen to the recipients of your generosity. They should just be grateful and shut up.

Think I'm being overly harsh? Here is a quote from an interview with OLPC visionary, Nicholas Negroponte, in a Nigerian newspaper (http://tinyurl.com/2eq3k8):

"[http://Q.|http://Q.] We understand that Bill Gates and some others in this business have criticized this initiative as untenable. What is your response to this?

[http://A.|http://A.] I don?t respond to such criticism. Because criticizing this project is like criticizing the church, or the Red Cross."

I hate to defend Bill Gates, but his intelligent philanthropy has saved more lives per dollar than anything OLPC (or for that matter, probably the Red Cross) will ever do. Keep my son (probably more like all the sons in my village) from dying or being crippled for life from malaria, or give him a $200 laptop? Hmm... let me think about that one.

Okay, rant over. Criticism aside, it is a revolutionary device. I would love to see how it works out in a real life setting. I just think we need some sort of IRB if we're going to be experimenting on the world's poorest children (okay, I guess I wasn't quite done with the ranting).
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I wonder if the Sugar OS will spur changes
by Gabey8 November 29, 2007 4:09 PM PST
From hughbristic: "Besides, you're not doing the poor children in developing nations any favors by teaching them to use a system so vastly different from what is used in the rest of the world."

I wonder if the most useful aspects of the Sugar interface will begin to make an appearance on other computer systems. Maybe the OLPC project can fund itself at least in part by licensing patents to other computer makers.

But if Sugar, or some of its top attributes, go into wider use over time, maybe by the time these students graduate, the system(s) they're used to WON'T be as different from the rest of the world's systems as it is right now. Over time, maybe the different systems will resemble one another more and more.
XO Software Elegance
by williamjolitz November 29, 2007 11:21 AM PST
Am glad XO elegantly uses open source on the first true world personal computer (WPC). They are at the cutting edge of real software technology, while innovation ground to a halt years back with consumer-oriented operating systems, which only care about trite appearance "enhancements".

Any part of XO can be extended/refined with a little bit of Python. A "class" act!
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