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November 19, 2007 9:23 AM PST

Parents of MySpace hoax victim seek legal recourse

by Ina Fried

Getting ready for work this morning, I caught a Today Show interview with the parents of Megan Meier, the 13-year-old that I wrote about on Saturday, who committed suicide last year after being taunted on MySpace.

Meier believed she had been chatting on the social network with a boy named Josh. At first, "Josh" sent friendly messages, but after a few weeks, he abruptly turned accusatory and insulting.

Meier's parents found out several weeks after their daughter's death that Josh was actually not a boy, but rather the fictional creation of adults, including the mother of a friend of Megan's, with whom she had a falling-out.

In the Today Show interview, Tina and Ron Meier said that the FBI looked into the matter for some time, but was unable to find a law that had been broken. However, the two said they still hoped civil or criminal action might be possible against the adult cyberbullies.

"We are still continuing on with the fight on the criminal and the civil side," Ron Meier said on the show. A legal expert on the program suggested that a recent federal law prohibiting online harassment might be applicable.

During her years at CNET News, Ina Fried has changed beats several times, changed genders once, and covered both of the Pirates of Silicon Valley. These days, most of her attention is focused on Microsoft. E-mail Ina.
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Can they sleep?
by tc8888 November 19, 2007 10:13 AM PST
I wonder how these other parents sleep at night and what if this happen to their own kid? What would they think then? (not that I ever will wish on others). But I believe in karma.
Mr & Mrs. Meier, stay strong.
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I hope they nuke 'em...
by Penguinisto November 19, 2007 11:15 AM PST
There is a very thin line between harmless flaming among adults and outright malice against a child.

Sure - the parents should've been more involved (at least enough to have helped the kid out some to prevent something of that magnitude). Sure - The Internet is no place for children outside of specially crafted and guarded areas, IMHO.

That said, the two adults responsible deserve to have their future income potentials gutted.

/P
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I could not agree more.
by Maclover1 November 19, 2007 11:36 AM PST
First parents need to monitor their childrens internet usuage. (my kids will never see myspace on a computer in my house).

That said what kind of "adults" would spend time doing such things to a 13 year old girl????

Myspace and Youtube are total trash. They are the Jerry Springer/Ricky Lake of the internet.

Sometimes I really wonder is the Internet more good or bad for society??
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by itsallaboutmike April 24, 2009 4:28 PM PDT
to: maclover1 regarding "I could not agree more"
yea go blame the net or sites like youtube for your fears.... try talking to your kids and helping them cope with the world instead of shielding them from it and PRAYING it won't ever hurt them.... to keep kids from such a great tool as the internet is a shame. just like drugs kids will get to the net and if you don't teach them how to use it just like why not to use drugs then you are deluding yourself into false safety... you can only shield them so long so why not stop shielding and teach them to understand and protect themselves. Don't you think its better to teach them to fish instead of feeding them until they are 18/20 and praying the figure it out???
myspace
by nolagirl79 November 19, 2007 2:58 PM PST
ok,first of all myspace is not a bad site.i am tired of people blaming everything on this site when there's other sites too.kids and teens started going into chat rooms and instant messaging before myspace came out.2nd,yes i'm saddened by these kids being stalked and killed but they are old enough not to accept these strange people.you can block yourself on your profile on myspace and deny people you don't know.i am 27 years old been having myspace for almost 2 years nothing happened.tom the creator does not allow nudity on myspace b/c he will ban you from it.so therefore,again i'm sorry about the little girl but mypace is not to be blamed everytime
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by itsallaboutmike April 24, 2009 4:21 PM PDT
agreed myspace wan't the cause here
Disgrace
by MelanieOctober November 19, 2007 3:05 PM PST
Lori Drew brought all this upon her self. Her lack of maturity and inability to differentiate wrong from right, has caused her Megan's and her own family immeasurable suffering. This will never end for them. Curt and Lori will not be able to be involved in the community, have gainful employment or be able to be anonymous ever again. Their names and phone numbers have been plastered all over the internet, and they are possibly the most hated internet bullies the internet has seen since it's conception. This is a warning to people who decide to play a 'prank' over the internet. Do you want YOUR details to be posted everywhere? I am sure Curt and Lori Drew are now subject to death threats, and other terrors. Because of HER actions, they now have the police called on them randomly, their house paintballed, their lawn destroyed, and I am sure this is just the beginning. This whole thing is very very sad.
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by itsallaboutmike April 24, 2009 4:20 PM PDT
Nothing she did makes it right to do any of the vandalism you discuss... but you are right it probably will happen. What she did was wrong and even if legal recourse isn't how she pays for it she will somehow.
Are you serious?
by compguru13 November 19, 2007 3:26 PM PST
Alright, this shows how naive some people can be. MySpace isn't owned, ran, or even truly affiliated with Tom anymore; he's a persona. MySpace was sold to News Corp, who don't truly monitor what's going on with their site, unless your blocking ads or causing legal trouble, like presenting nudity to minors.
I'm glad nothing happened to you; but you're one of over 24 million users. So it's like saying you haven't been struck by lightning- a lot of people have, but even one person being struck is never a good thing.
Most young teens are hungry for attention, which is why their always stuck on their phone or computer. Obviously, if a 'cute boy' messages a young teen girl, she probably will accept because in doing so, she feels accepted. Its all a part of Maslov's Heirarchy of Needs. This is a reason why the web's golden rule of 'you must be 13 or older to sign up' needs to be changed to 15 or even older. And it's up to parents to check their kids aren't making accounts - knock once, quick walk in if you actually let them keep a computer in their room. If you see something minizmized or hear Oh my God and the such, demand to know what they were doing. Check their browser history. Wait for a friend to IM back. Be a parent.
Sure other sites and areas are problems. But Facebook managed to create a great solution; networks. For the teens, they can set their privacy settings so only people in their highschool can find them, thus feeling accepted but safe. Chatrooms are extinct; I don't know of anyone under 30 who goes on public chatrooms. It all comes down to monitoring; by the parent and maybe eventually the sites oriented towards young children.
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Correction
by compguru13 November 19, 2007 3:28 PM PST
In my lightning analogy, I said that most people have been; I meant to say haven't
Hoax
by ConitaSue November 19, 2007 5:16 PM PST
Quote... very sad and i think should be punishable with Imprisonment , it was a cruel intention, i think they should also sue them for the cuase of a divorce, how disgraceful id be so ashamed i couldnt look at my own self, it would only be right for them to have to move away, that is far less of a loss then what this family faced, Bless the familys heart that lost ther child to a family of the devil, i cant even come up with the worst kinda words that fits this family, for shame for shameeeeee plz reconsider punishment in this case there should be a way to punish these people even if its thru the divorce any ways they should not be aloud on the streets they need to be locked up im discuzzted makes me sick to think any one would even be that cruell how can you live your life knowing you have took the life of a 13 year old child this blood will always be in your hands
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MySpace Hoax
by thomasjcarter November 19, 2007 8:03 PM PST
As a parent I simply have this to say - Why are people blaming MySpace for their childrens problems? Is it just a matter of convienence? How about this - PARENTS KEEP AN EYE ON YOUR CHILDREN!!! If you are so lazy that you can't monitor your childrens activities then do us all a favor and don't have them! I understand that all people have rights and what not, but you also have to be parents and monitor what happens in your own home. If you can't be responsible enough to take care of your own children and allow the media to do so then you need to take parenting classes and learn what it means to be a parent. I am tired of society blaming everything and everyone for their childrens problems and not looking in the mirror and accepting responsibility as a parent. It is a sad thing that this young girl killed herself, but she wasn't even old enough to be allowed on MySpace. Why are her parents allowing her to have a MySpace page in the first place? Once again America, PARENTS NEED TO TAKE RESPONSIBILTIY FOR THEIR CHILDREN AND NOT BLAME EVERYONE BUT THEMSELVES FOR THE ACTIONS TAKEN BY THEIR CHILDREN!!!
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by itsallaboutmike April 24, 2009 4:13 PM PDT
I personally disagree that there should be an age limit on the net... if you can type you can be online. The child should be able to go to their parents and talk with them about what happens online and how to handle situations. Not only that but parents do have to take some active role in teaching them how to handle the information they receive online. In this situation though I doubt any of us can say what each person involved did wrong. We DON'T and probably never will have all the information.
Imprisoning children
by bwithnel November 19, 2007 11:04 PM PST
There are two things that come to mind with this story. One, brought up by people that have a warped sense of justice, and two, the need for those that are outraged at this to act together to provide for justice.

The first is the idea that always occurs after these kinds of things, that the parents are to blame for this, is a warped sense of justice. It used to be that all people knew that it was up to all people to treat children with kindness, and those that would prey upon them were the scourge of the earth and the earth should be rid of them. What has happened in recent history is a strange change for many who see the prevention of the evil that occurred as more important than the liberty of all people everywhere. Rather than say those that perpetrate this kind of act need to be treated so severely that they become an example and byword for those that act in such a way, they say the children should be monitored continually. In other words, children should be the ones that are "in jail" so idiots like these can roam free. I'm sorry, it is a sad thing that my children cannot run around the neighborhood without constant supervision. Why do they need that supervision? Not because they are so young they would do something like jump in a pond or run into traffic (well, the two and four year old does need constant supervision for that purpose) but because there are people out there that will do bad things to an otherwise "safe" child. It would be better if people who would hurt children were punished so severely that the thought of it would give nightmares to small children.

As for the second point, those that are outraged at this ought to ostracize those adults that perpetrated this act. Even if it is not criminal, it does not need to go unpunished. The idea that someone has found a way to get away with murder is hideous. If I had any dealings with those people, I would no long have any dealings with them. They should not be able to buy food in a grocery store, they should not be able to buy gas for their car. They should not be able to work for anyone. Total and complete ostracizing would mean they would soon have the appropriate penalty.
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by itsallaboutmike April 24, 2009 4:08 PM PDT
I somewhat agree with you in that parents shouldn't have to watch their children so much. I also agree that there should be penalties for what was done to this child but it shouldn't be handled (and can't be) by the individual. The law can and should do something about this. I think it will come to that conclusion sooner or later.
where's the power now?
by nedmorlef November 20, 2007 5:36 AM PST
the gov't can get in your underwear,home,access your children,bank accounts,phone,tax and medical records when you've supposedly committed a crime against yourself. however, when there's a real crime that violates a constitutional rule of life and liberty and the pursuit of happiness, their hands are tied.

isn't that backwards?

or is it there is no property to confiscate? no outnumbered and outgunned citizen to corner and psycologically bully until they snap. which automatically manufactures a spiritual death warrant.

then when the victim and all the immediate bystanders are dead, it was the "criminals" fault.

all those dead people with police lead in them are dead because someone[the criminal] made a personal decision without gov't approval and that's not acceptable. so all those people would be alive if the "criminal" had not broken a law of God spoken directly through george bush.

those people shouldn't have been hanging around where crimes are committed. if you peek in their windows at night or thermal image their home you would probably find out they were criminals. so they actually deserve to be dead. so we the police are heroes for saving you from them and yourself. [http://just thank God by praising g.w. and rewrite the constitution so we can vote him in again.all the other amendments have been rewritten. so, why not this one?|http://just thank God by praising g.w. and rewrite the constitution so we can vote him in again.all the other amendments have been rewritten. so, why not this one?].

it's ok to psychologically torture people until they snap. we do it all the time. besides the lil girl was on the internet. if you confiscate and search her computer you could find out she was really committing crimes on there.

this Godless country sickens me more daily.ned morlef
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by itsallaboutmike April 24, 2009 3:59 PM PDT
Calm down the country does a pretty good job and is still the best one we have...
Lori Drew Is A Psychopathic OGRE
by krosavcheg November 25, 2007 12:07 PM PST
Lori Drew is a psychopath. That part is clear.

But more disturbing than that are the actions of authorities: If it had been an adult MALE that "carried on" in a sexually explicit way with a 13 year old girl, even if it WERE for the purposes of revenge for his teen daughter, he'd be locked up as a pedophile.

Second, there are al-READY laws on the books that cover this type of harassment. For chrissake: just implement them!

What is particularly chilling to me, is that Lori Drew knew that the victim was known to be suicidal in the past. That means that her statement to her that the "world would be better off without you" or whatever it was... is even MORE chilling: it means she was TRYING to steer this girl to suicide. It means she had a desire to push it in that direction, and did so.

Reminds me of Charles Manson. He never "technically" put his own hands upon his victims either, but he "made it happen" by manipulating people, I mean that's the premise upon which he was convicted: that he had INCITED it.

Same thing here. Lori Drew incited this suicide and should be just as responsible as Manson was when he incited those murders---and she should also be treated just like any other adult who engages in online relationships of a sexual nature with under-aged children.
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Parents of Myspace Hoax
by sicily726 November 28, 2007 5:15 PM PST
As a 46 year old adult survivor of child abuse with a graduate-level education, I think I can speak with some authority on this subject. This woman Lori Drew who set up the fake myspace account for purposes of deceiving, manipulating and then ultimately to purposefully perpetrate psychological harm upon a child whom she knew suffered from and was being treated for depression amounts to child abuse, in my view. I find it an outrage that an adult would model such diabolical, abominable behavior for her own child. The fact that Ms. Drew, in her report to the police, absolves herself of any culpability respecting Megan's death by suggesting that Megan had attempted suicide in the past indicates the probability that Ms. Drew lacks a conscience. Psychology has a term for such persons: sociopaths. As an adult survivor of child abuse at the hands of a mother who has no conscience, who is a sociopath, I would urge this community's authorities to reexamine the likely threat this Lori Drew poses not only to other children in the community but to her own children. I would also advise interested parties to read the book entitled, "The Sociopath Next Door" to learn about sociopathy, how common it is, and how to protect themselves from sociopaths.
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by itsallaboutmike April 24, 2009 3:49 PM PDT
although raw i agree.
Myspace Hoax
by eawalker1970 December 6, 2007 12:44 AM PST
Yes it is tragic this this child took her own life. No one is saying it isn''t. But to blame others for Megans parents short comings and now they are trying to sue in civil court??? Lets see, first off the parents of Megan created this profile for her, logged her on for her and even saw these messages yet didn''t confront the issue at hand. And now they want money for the loss. For their lack of parenting skills. What is this country coming to??? There were no threats to Megan whatsoever.

Myspace Eligibility: "Eligibility. Use of and Membership in the MySpace Services is void where prohibited. By using the MySpace Services, you represent and warrant that (a) all registration information you submit is truthful and accurate; (b) you will maintain the accuracy of such information; (c) you are 14 years of age or older; and (d) your use of the MySpace Services does not violate any applicable law or regulation. Your profile may be deleted and your Membership may be terminated without warning, if we believe that you are under 14 years of age."

Megans parents created the myspace account for her! Again, lack of parenting comes into play. Once again yes it is tragic that this child took her life, yet why didn''t Megans mother go after her and have a talk with her right after this incident happened?

Another tragic loss of life by parents unwilling to deal with the issues at hand and trying to put the blame anywhere but on themselves.
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by itsallaboutmike April 24, 2009 3:43 PM PDT
lose this blame game and realize these parents may have done everything they could and when looked at by everyone when the news came to spot light them they may have made it look like they do more monitoring then they did. MOST parents don't monitor every move a child makes online... it is difficult to say the least and the internet is a great tool if used right by even minors, but like all tools if used wrong can hurt and even kill... BEFORE YOU CAST A STONE LOOK IN THE MIRROR AND FIND YOUR (lets not use sin) OWN SHORT COMMINGS
by itsallaboutmike April 24, 2009 3:37 PM PDT
The thing is I was teased all through school and I am now an out man. I still get teased alot. If the issue is.... or even isn't dealt with by the parents of this child they have the ability to handle it as I did. Believe me I got it all too. I think this can't be the only reason for her to take her own life and to blame it on ether set of parents solely is wrong, although what the other parents did by harassing this child was VERY WRONG and is illegal. Its harassment at least if not negligence. As I see it there is no issue to discuss here. It was a huge loss and is sad but the legal system will be able to handle it. if you think this is the first instance of an adult harassing a minor you are sorely mistaken.
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by shycelticwitch July 2, 2009 12:50 PM PDT
Lori Drew should be publicly stoned. It is the only punishment I can think of that fits the crime. After all, this is what she perpetrated against dear, blessed Megan by her actions online. SHAME ON YOU, LORI DREW! How utterly juvenile and intentionally harmful your acts were, they were made even worse by the fact that you tried to blame it on the victim herself. I have read recently that many of their friends and neighbors now shun them. AND WHEN THE REST OF THE PEOPLE DO THE SAME, IT WILL DO NO GOOD TO CHANGE YOUR NAME.

There is a word for women like you... who act like dogs.
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