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March 18, 2010 4:50 PM PDT

Microsoft: Only minor tweaks in Windows 7 SP1

by Ina Fried

Breaking its silence on the first service pack for Windows 7, Microsoft said on Thursday that it will include only minor updates, including many already released.

(Credit: Microsoft)

"For Windows 7, SP1 includes only minor updates, among which are previous updates that are already delivered through Windows Update," Microsoft blogger Brandon LeBlanc said in a blog post.

LeBlanc said that Microsoft is not yet ready to announce a time frame for either the beta or final version of the service pack. But, he said that businesses should not wait for the update.

"So don't wait," LeBlanc said. "Go ahead and deploy...you know you want to!"

Microsoft released Windows 7 in October.

On the server side, the service pack for Windows Server 2008 R2 will include two new virtualization features--Microsoft RemoteFX and Dynamic Memory. Windows 7 SP1 will include the client-side support for RemoteFX.

Once finished, Microsoft said it would make the Windows 7 service pack available for download and through Windows Update.

During her years at CNET News, Ina Fried has changed beats several times, changed genders once, and covered both of the Pirates of Silicon Valley. These days, most of her attention is focused on Microsoft. E-mail Ina.
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by Marcus Westrup March 18, 2010 5:32 PM PDT
I've been fighting with Win 7 Pro for 6 months now - "minor updates" is not what I wanted to hear.
Win 7 has proven (to me) to be a generic OS for generic users, without the configurations / customizations I want to see.
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by Timetogetill7 March 18, 2010 5:36 PM PDT
Just out of curiosity what issues have you been having?

I find that it freezes more than XP and end up having to restart my laptop by using the power button. Also it tends to hiccup at times (video for example freezes for a split second and the audio jumps).
1 person likes this comment
by fudbuster77 March 18, 2010 5:44 PM PDT
I've found it worked without any trouble on my Mac through bootcamp. No problems to report.
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by raleighboy March 18, 2010 5:48 PM PDT
You must be joking.. Been using windows 7 since it's release and did not have any problems. Win 7 rocks..
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by People_r_Dumb March 18, 2010 5:52 PM PDT
what configurations / customizations would you like to see?i've been having some issues within past few weeks after some updates (winamp,setpoint,firefox would freeze,nothing major) but going back to the last restore point fixes it .Not ms only updates,actually winamp and setpoint was after some flash pro cs4 update.Other than that i am very happy with my win7 ult x64.
ps photoshop cs4 x64 opens under 4 seconds,that is awesome (for me at least)
by TinyIoda March 18, 2010 5:57 PM PDT
I've also had issues with my laptop and having to use the power button... I wish I could be sure if it was driver/bios problems dealing in hibernation/sleep/power or if its the OS itself.

That said, not a single crash on my desktop.

What kind of customizations are you looking for Marcus? From my experience setting up dozens of installations for many different users its been as flexible as needed for everyone.
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by dhavleak March 18, 2010 6:11 PM PDT
"Win 7 has proven (to me) to be a generic OS for generic users, without the configurations / customizations I want to see."

>> A generic rant by a generic troll.
23 people like this comment
by RyguyMN March 18, 2010 8:53 PM PDT
No issues with Win 7 here. Sounds like the OP is having some kind of instability with driver(s).
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by solitare_pax March 19, 2010 2:27 AM PDT
Perhaps the problem you are having stems from running non-Microsoft software on the OS.
by Rolker March 19, 2010 9:08 AM PDT
Win 7 has been working amazingly for me. No problems on my 3 years old laptop (which used to run Vista with no problems).
by gggg sssss March 20, 2010 4:40 PM PDT
to paraphrase RyguyMN

Sounds like the OP is having some kind of mental instability
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by fudbuster77 March 18, 2010 5:46 PM PDT
I'll stick with OS X for my primary OS, thanks. But I'm glad it's coming anyways. Sounds like a point release like we have with 10.6, 10.6.1, 10.6.2, etc.
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by xcopy March 19, 2010 3:48 AM PDT
That's too bad.. Win7 is a better OS in my experience....
5 people like this comment
by ddesy March 19, 2010 6:46 AM PDT
Both OS X 10.6 and Windows 7 are great operating systems. Even fully patched Vista still doesn't seem so great, but 7 is fine.
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by SactoGuy018 March 19, 2010 7:29 AM PDT
I like Windows 7 for these reasons:

1) It boots WAY faster than Wiindows Vista. And shutdown is quite fast, too.
2) Windows 7 handles updates through Windows Updates a lot better--the majority of the time you don't need to reboot the computer like you do with Windows Vista.
by Dalkorian March 19, 2010 11:49 AM PDT
A real operating system does not have a corporate controlled kill switch and reputable company does not try to sell it to it's victims by calling it a Genuine Advantage.

That said, most slaves fear criticizing their masters because they know how cruel the whip can be.
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by renGek March 19, 2010 12:22 PM PDT
>A real operating system does not have a corporate controlled kill switch and reputable company does not try to sell it >to it's victims by calling it a Genuine Advantage.
>That said, most slaves fear criticizing their masters because they know how cruel the whip can be.

Likewise, a real company will let its users write the productive software they want without having to get permission to release it through an app approval process like they were in the sixth grade. but farting programs are ok because its very productive and shows off what a real company can produce /sar.
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by gggg sssss March 20, 2010 4:41 PM PDT
@Dalkorian if you paid for your software instead of stealing it that would not be a problem at all woudl it Dalkorian
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by eltoro2827 March 18, 2010 5:55 PM PDT
Win7 = happy user
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by Shane39199 March 18, 2010 9:12 PM PDT
not 1 problem with the OS.its everything else to has some sort of trouble.
by guest86 March 19, 2010 2:53 AM PDT
Win7 = angry user.
by lazycat202 March 19, 2010 5:55 AM PDT
1 minor issue with 3rd party software. No big deal!
1 issue with networking issue. It's Win Server 2007's fault. Solved!

Other than that, i'm a happy user.
by gggg sssss March 20, 2010 4:43 PM PDT
@lazycat202 what is Win Server 2007? where does one get that?
by streamline35 March 18, 2010 6:05 PM PDT
I've been using it since the RC version and it's been perfect. Only problems I've ever had are getting some really old programs or games working (by old I mean 10+ years), but they usually do after a bit of fiddling. Overall I've been quite happy with it.
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by DemonDuck000 March 18, 2010 6:44 PM PDT
All I want is for the update to bring back the classic start menu. Hoping for W2K/XP folders would probably be too much. Vista and W7 folders are the worst interface ever....
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by Endbringer March 19, 2010 10:52 AM PDT
I'd like to just have a command prompt to run everything. It was so much faster than this GUIs of today. </roll>
by zyxxy March 19, 2010 11:24 AM PDT
Now that I have used Vista/7 for the last year and a half, I find XP to be a total pain in the butt. I really do. I wish they would start rolling 7 out at work. It is in the plan, it just hasn't started yet.
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by gggg sssss March 20, 2010 4:43 PM PDT
+1
by rahmanroni July 12, 2010 9:34 PM PDT
There is a 3rd party program called sevenclassicstart <-(yeah thats 1 word) it works perfectly.
by rahmanroni July 12, 2010 9:38 PM PDT
There are 3rd party programs called sevenclassicstart and CSMenu that works perfectly.
by arizonahuskerfan March 18, 2010 6:59 PM PDT
Windows 7 is absolutely outstanding! I am a HEAVY user with many custom apps. I have absolutely taken it through the paces. I have NEVER had a problem with anything. Those reporting lots of problems are either novices, have hardware problems or a plant from Apple.

Windows 7 is so good, it makes Macs irrelevant and makes me forget about Vista.
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by sargess25 March 18, 2010 8:45 PM PDT
"Windows 7 is so good, it makes Macs irrelevant and makes me forget about Vista."

lol, given that W7 is Vista on lipstick, you must be easily pleased .... then again so are all winbots users
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by topgunb2 March 18, 2010 10:26 PM PDT
"then again so are all winbots users" you mean to say"then again so is rest of the world"
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by xcopy March 19, 2010 3:56 AM PDT
Hmmmm....Were macs ever relevant except to those that had trouble using 2 button mice? LOL

As for vista, it was a great OS - EXCEPT for the driver/software compatibility issues. Vista was also great for apple, that created some funny (and some not so funny) ads. it allowed apple to sell a few more macs, but apple hasn't been a computer company in a long time. They've been an ipod/iphone company for almost a decade, and now they're hoping to be an ipad company... Good luck with that thing. I'd never buy one, even if it was half price.....
4 people like this comment
by ddesy March 19, 2010 6:50 AM PDT
@xcopy

Another person not acknowledging that the Mac has supported two button mice for a long time?

The Mac is just fine, and it is very relevant. It is heavily used in graphics, video, and music production. It also makes for a very stable computing platform for people who don't want the hassles that can come with Windows.

Also, Vista was not fine, even with proper drivers. It was always (and still is) the slowest version of Windows. Both Windows XP and Windows 7 run circles around Vista installed on the same machine.
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by Endbringer March 19, 2010 10:55 AM PDT
I haven't seen a graphics shop use Macs in a while. Even the university I attended uses Windows for all their graphic design classes.
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by Soundtweaker March 18, 2010 7:02 PM PDT
Ive only seen very minor bugs in Windows 7. Actually in IE8 if you right click to delete a bookmark the last bookmark you went to will be highlighted too. But it deletes correctly.
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by ZForray March 18, 2010 7:20 PM PDT
Just Google for Classic Menu Windows 7. There are numerous program that bring it back in Windows 7. I use one but found another that includes Aero support. The one I use, called Classic Shell, also tweaks Explorer.
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by Grem135 March 18, 2010 7:36 PM PDT
Guess I have just one questiion........ Why would you want to go back to that ugly XP menu? I find Win7 much more user freindly and have had no troubles on my 3 (2 desktops 1 Lappy) and Wifes desktop.
by DemonDuck000 March 18, 2010 9:20 PM PDT
"Guess I have just one questiion........ Why would you want to go back to that ugly XP menu? I find Win7 much more user freindly and have had no troubles on my 3 (2 desktops 1 Lappy) and Wifes desktop."

I find that beauty follows function. Style without substance is worthless -- but enjoy what you like...
by anonymuos March 19, 2010 12:45 AM PDT
@Grem135, that "ugly" menu is soon going to have a glass skin. Then it will be beautiful AND functional.
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by guest86 March 19, 2010 2:55 AM PDT
Classic theme is best because reduce CPU, Memory RAM and GPU and will include speed of Windows Vista or 7.


Aero Theme must removed!
by zyxxy March 19, 2010 11:30 AM PDT
With quad cores running at 2.6Ghz, Aero doesn't even matter! What are you doing on your machine, gene sequencing? Protein folding? If I open the performance monitor, the only time my machine gets 'busy' is during a mutli-thread build (-j 8) and even then, it is disk bound. The Aero interface is no issue at all.

And the XP interface is dated, dated, dated. It was only okay when it was new, and that was 10 years ago with the release of Windows 2000. You guys are all way too young to be stuck on old crap already. and XP is old crap.
by Mr. Dee March 18, 2010 8:08 PM PDT
Persons complaining about Windows 7 are just the typical Linux and Mac zealots hiding. Windows 7 has been working great since day one. The beta and RC proved it.
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by ddesy March 19, 2010 6:51 AM PDT
As much as I still love my MacBook, you're right about this. Windows 7 is quite possibly the best release Microsoft has made yet.
by gwailo247 March 18, 2010 8:11 PM PDT
Gotta admit, this is the first time that a SP has come out where I really had no complaints about the product.
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by pawpower1995 March 18, 2010 9:04 PM PDT
I have used Windows since the first version. There have been ups, and mostly downs. I have also used Apple computers for quite sometime. I currently have an i7 Core, gaming machine I built for my son with Vista, quite a few issues. Then I have this new iMac, with bootcamp. I was not to interested in using Windows 7. But, I bit the bullett and purchased it. After a month of using it along side OSX, I am more than impressed. What a GREAT OS bu Microsoft! I thought those words would NEVER come out of my mouth, but they have. Now, I am using Windows 7 more than OSX on my iMac. No, that is a crazy thing! I am also going to be buying a Windows 7 series phone when it hits the market, replacing my iPhone 3G. I can wait on the new phone, but I am strongly thinking of purchasing a Zune HD. I think I have lost my mind. But, the proof is in front of me. Windows running more on an iMac, than OSX. (NO, I am not a Plant, by MS) This is my opinion, even if you dont agree with me. We can agree to agree, or agree to disagree.
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by Dalkorian March 19, 2010 11:41 AM PDT
Funny how you noticed the "need" to point out that you're not an M$ plant.

Prove it. Otherwise ...
by Yelonde March 18, 2010 9:15 PM PDT
What I find funny about this whole "Windows 7 is superdooperultraawesome" claims is that windows 7 is actually windows vista SP3, with a few minor tweaks to the UI.

Seriously, there are hardly any differences when you compare Vista to 7. As a user of both, it is irritating to see users who claim how windows 7 is the best OS they have ever used, then they turn around and completely trash on vista. This "Windows 7 is better than vista" It is a bunch of fanboy bull, comprised of misunderstanding and lack of technical knowledge.
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by superswiss March 19, 2010 12:20 AM PDT
"... comprised of misunderstanding and lack of technical knowledge.". That last part couldn't describe your comment any better. I'm not part of the hype machine, but if after using both OSes you believe 7 is nothing more than Vista SP3, you have no clue what a Service Pack is and you must not use your computers for much more than surfing the web and checking your emails.
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by ddesy March 19, 2010 6:53 AM PDT
Sadly, you are mistaken. As someone who actually has technical knowledge and has used both Vista and 7 on the same machines, I can honestly say that 7 is a lot more than a service pack. If it weren't, you couldn't explain the speed and interface differences.

I can't wait until Vista SP3 comes out. That will make it obvious to everyone that 7 is not just a service pack.
by ClaBR March 19, 2010 7:15 AM PDT
Windows Vista is Windows NT 6.0 and Windows 7 is Windows NT 6.1, just as Windows 2000 5.0 vs Windows XP 5.1, so it's not just a service pack but an update to the OS.

"windows 7 is actually windows vista SP3" matches the "comprised of misunderstanding and lack of technical knowledge" actually....
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by SactoGuy018 March 19, 2010 7:35 AM PDT
(buzzer goes off) Windows 7 _looks_ like Vista in many ways, but the improvements "under the hood" are enormously dramatic. Two things I like are the fast bootup and shutdown times and the fact it handles the OS updates through Windows Update a lot smoother, with a lot less need for a system reboot after the updates are applied. Good enough for me! (thumbs up)
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by zyxxy March 19, 2010 11:34 AM PDT
They are obviously different enough to require separate driver efforts for hardware. Yes, 7 can 'support' Vista drivers, but native 7 drivers are better. Windows 7 drivers are not supported under Vista.

More than a Service Pack separates the two.
by Applerocks1963_ March 21, 2010 10:11 AM PDT
Ahh, yes. The Windows OS bashing wouldn't be complete without Yelonde chimming in with his/her usual set of one-sided and irrelevent commentary. So what if Windows 7 is a enhancement to Vista, what's your point? All modern operating systems are evolutions and enhancements of their previous versions. Or are you stupid enough to argue that Mac OSX Snow Leopard, Leopard, Tiger, etc were all started from scratch?

All you did was take a fact and put a negative spin on it. Just a poor excuse for a Mac fanboy to go around calling everyone else a fanboy. Not very impressive.
by EcuadorHomesOnline March 18, 2010 10:40 PM PDT
Even when XP was released, many people said "I'll wait till SP1 or SP2 to try it out ..."

But we're not seeing that with Win7. It's the first OS from ANY supplier that's been rock solid out of the box.
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by guest86 March 19, 2010 2:57 AM PDT
XP fans should hold until Win7 SP1/SP2, Win8 SP1/SP2, Win9 SP1/SP2.
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by ClaBR March 19, 2010 7:18 AM PDT
@guest86: exactly why? After all, there is no difference between an updated Win7 vs Win7 SP1, save for minor tweaks for XP Mode and Hyper-V. Your comment makes no sense.
by zyxxy March 19, 2010 11:36 AM PDT
I think guet86@ was being sarcastic. And EHO@ is correct, I stayed on Windows 2000 Pro until XP SP1 came out. I stayed on XP until Vista SP1 was released. I loaded the RC of 7, and installed the update the day the disk showed up in the mail. The RC was that impressive.
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by srk_0321 March 18, 2010 11:23 PM PDT
looks like its fashion on street to bash anything MS does.Not all the products done by MS are good but there are some and people simply bash for fun or lack of understanding. All OS including aapl, MS linux Sun get periodical updates and it's not new. Win 7 is fine OS with good balance of performance and features. I am using now more than 4 moths and working fine for me.
Also in general about problems reported om Windows the way I see 1 problem reported for aapl os is equivalent to 19 time one issue reported as wrld market share 5% vs 95%.
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by jscott418 March 19, 2010 6:00 AM PDT
No problems here! Works on three laptops, and one Mac Mini in BootCamp. Absolutely best from Microsoft so far.
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by Michichael March 19, 2010 8:40 AM PDT
Eh, I've had very little trouble with it except for one major flaw: The gorram screen flicker. VMWare, Firefox, any 3d game? Constantly does full screen redraws. Task Manager shows it switching from "running" to "not responding" 5 times a second and it locks the system up until I kill it.

Updated latest graphics drivers (Nvidia NVS 160M) on a Dell E6500. Dedicated graphics card.

Just doesn't behave. Only partial fix I've found is to disable desktop composition, aero, or for each program go in and "Disable Visual Themes" on the compatibility tab.

It just seems wrong to me that one of the biggest aspects of an OS, the presentation of it, doesn't work.
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by yhpenn14 March 19, 2010 10:43 AM PDT
To guest86
The windows aero theme actually enables hardware accelerated graphics unlike the classic theme which relies on software graphics. Thus, under many instances, while the windows aero theme takes slightly more memory, it runs smoother. If you use the classic theme, moving windows around causes slightly blurring and lagging in graphics. If you have used the aero theme before, you should know this.
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by syhprum1 March 19, 2010 12:41 PM PDT
At xmas I went to stay with my son in Brisbane, he provided me with a Laptop to use that had a 37Gb drive a 1Ghz proccesor and 512Mb of memory.
I took a copy of my windows 7 ultimate with me on a USB dongle and set it up on the Laptop, it worked fine to such an extent that I used up all his broadband allocation while he was away on a quick trip to New Zealand
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by francisco8104 March 21, 2010 6:03 AM PDT
Why would anyone want windows 7 if they can have XP ? There is no comparison as using resources is concerned between windows 7 and xp. Windows 7 used up 700MB ram just to start. I downgraded to XP and it requires 250MB to start. My system flies with XP. I dont understand why you need anything other that XP
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by frankwick March 21, 2010 5:37 PM PDT
I'm actually hoping they delay SP1 as long as possible. For one thing, Win 7 is the most stable OS I've used since DOS 5.0 (including OSX) ;-) . The monthly patch cycle is very manageable and due to the inherent stability has really produced few big changes.

Secondly, and most importantly, SP1 changes the time-line for corporations to deploy Win 7. Here's how: Corporations have the right to but a Windows 7 license with the right to downgrade to XP until 18 months after the October 2009 release or the date which SP1 ships -- whichever occurs FIRST. So, if SP1 ships in October of 2010, then that makes corps move their time-lines up by 6 MONTHS.

Like I said, SP1 can wait until March 2011!!! It's not much more than the sum of the monthly patches anyway.
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