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March 4, 2010 8:15 PM PST

Windows Phone 7: A complete reset

by Ina Fried

Microsoft on Thursday confirmed that its new phone operating system is as different under the hood as it is to the eye.

In a blog post and at an event with a handful of journalists, the software maker said that those developing software for Windows Phone 7 Series devices will do so using either Silverlight or XNA, the toolset used to create Xbox games.

The all-new look for Windows Phone 7 series isn't the only thing that's new. Developers will also use new tools--Silverlight and XNA--to write apps that work on the devices.

(Credit: Microsoft)

"Overnight those developers have become Windows Phone developers," said Charlie Kindel, the Microsoft executive in charge of the mobile developer strategy. "One of our principles is to build on the shoulders of giants."

Microsoft announced its plans for the new phones and showed off the user interface at last month's Mobile World Congress. However, it had been mum on what it would take to write software for the phones although speculation had centered on Silverlight and XNA.

While the move brings the phone closer to Microsoft's Web and gaming efforts, it also marks a pretty distinct break with past versions of Windows Mobile.

"In some cases, some work can be done to get those apps to run, but it's fundamentally a different platform," said Todd Brix, another member of the Windows Phone team.

The company also confirmed that it has no current plans to allow any current Windows Mobile phones to run the new OS, which is due to start shipping on new devices by this year's holiday season.

That the new OS is such a complete break with past versions is a relatively new development in the multi-year history of its development. Roughly 18 months ago, a largely new team of engineers and executives came in as part of what one employee termed "a complete reset" of the project.

What resulted was a product that resembles the Zune HD far more than any past version of Windows Mobile. Also gone was the notion of allowing both hardware makers and carriers a great deal of flexibility in customizing the phone.

In part by design and in part a nod to its weakening market position, recent Windows Mobile devices often hid the look of the operating system under a "skin" designed by the phone maker. With the new OS, Microsoft will insist its interface be preserved.

Microsoft is also far stricter on what hardware will go in the phones, mandating not just the screen size and type but also what buttons can be included and insisting the phone have things like an FM radio and Wi-Fi. Hardware makers will have some choice but mainly around external things such as whether the phone includes a physical keyboard or not.

One of the reasons for limiting choice, Kindel said, is to ensure that developers that write software for Windows Phones can do so without having to do separate testing for each phone on the market.

Kindel said that developers had grown frustrated with the experience of writing software for phones using Microsoft's OS. "To ship my app, I have to test on 35 devices or I will get nothing but support calls," Kindel said was the message he heard from developers.

Microsoft didn't offer the full details on what developers will have to do to write for Windows Phone Series 7 devices, but has said those details will come at the Mix 10 trade show in Las Vegas later this month. There it will offer details on the programming tools as well as the app store that will be part of the phone.

During her years at CNET News, Ina Fried has changed beats several times, changed genders once, and covered both of the Pirates of Silicon Valley. These days, most of her attention is focused on Microsoft. E-mail Ina.
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by jlopezcnet March 4, 2010 8:42 PM PST
I am by far an iPhone lover but hearing that MSFT will lock down the interface is good news. I think that was their biggest mistake. When a company allows all this customizations, even by the end user, the result is a non-uniform user experience. It causes confusion.

"Do I have a Verizon phone or a Sprint WinMo? Wait can this app run on my tmo touch? No I have the dash it won't work. Do I buy my apps from the VZW store or the AT&T store?"

One system, one UI, one App store, etc. Unfortunately they would never limit the number of licensees or carriers. That would also help them regain market share IMHO. They need to have the best of the best license their OS. It should be high standards for device - instead of anyone that has a piece of plastic, and touch screen and 2 bucks per unit
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by unknownbowler March 4, 2010 9:24 PM PST
While I understand where you are coming from on this, I must disagree. I really like being able to customize my phone (after all, it is my phone...not the maker's) as I see fit. I use Spb Mobile Shell and I love it. I have no problem managing the intricacies of my particular setup...in fact it's part of what makes my phone mine. It will be a shame to see shell and skinning software die simply because MS has a desire to tightly control their software environment, Besides, software should be intuitive to use, and not everyone has the same sense of that...it's very much a personal thing.

Looks like my next phone will be an Android, eh? (Or maybe I'll just keep my Omnia...hmmm.)
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by deniceels March 5, 2010 1:10 AM PST
at least the core specifications remains the same, the customisation can be made to enhance a user's experience. Eg: a phone with 3 buttons will always have 3 buttons, but what they do can be determined by the developers, thus if you develope a game which utilises 3 buttons, and for whatever core specs, your game (if not apps) can be used throughout the other handset models as well, thus reducing massively the recoding work required.

OTOH, it makes it easier to determine faults or bugs, whether it lies on the hardware (dfferent production) or software (error coding). Thus, if it fails on one handset, you'll know it's likely to fail on others as well.
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by 3tire March 5, 2010 6:01 AM PST
Good news. Also a card carrying mac fan, but I'm sure the Windows experience is going to be much improved by this. No more developers doing goofy things then having people blame Microsoft for the problem. Well, at least a reduction of developers doing goofy things....
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by Renegade Knight March 5, 2010 7:29 AM PST
Locking down the interface is good. Locking down the OS isn't.
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by Renegade Knight March 4, 2010 8:48 PM PST
MicroSoft drank the Kool Aid. I'll bet right now that the functionality of WinMo 6.5 that still beats what Android and iPhone can do has been removed and now it will be just a variation on the 'fat finger' interface that Google and Apple use.

Since it's a complete reset, I lost nothing by making the jump to Android. Others will lost nothing by jumping to Android, iPhone, Sumbian, Blackberry, and WebOS.
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by dhavleak March 4, 2010 10:52 PM PST
They did drink the Kool Aid indeed :)

In a strict functionality sense you might be right about WM6.5 and Android being roughly on par -- but that's not what plagues WM6.5 -- the issues are more like this:
1) Stability: general anarchy resulting in wide variance in driver quality
2) Usability: too many desktop paradigms used in the OS, that don't work on mobile devices (start menu, scroll bars, tiny radio buttons, etc.)
3) Performance: also a result of the general state of anarchy with h/w design
4) Inconsistency: too many apps rolling their own UI etc. to work around WM's limitations -- so UI behaves different in each app
5) More anarchy: carriers were allowed to do any thing they saw fit -- and that generally resulted in them adding artificial restrictions to the phone (locking the GPS, locking Music ID, and other similar BS).

At a minimum, I'm sure Android does not suffer from issues #2 and #4. Perhaps it suffers from none of them - I don't know for sure.

But in general, drinking the Kool Aid is what was needed in this case. Their experience was horribly broken -- they did need a ground up rewrite. I'll reserve my opinion on the result for now -- I mean, I obviously haven't used the damn thing so it's hard to say anything right now. The pics looked pretty though.

I'll say this about Kool Aid -- I'm sure there will be a marketplace on Wm7 -- there's already an app store on 6.5 after all, so they're definitely learning from the App Store (as did the whole tech world -- there's app stores everywhere these days). But I really hope that sense prevails and that they do not make it so that the App Store is the only way to get an App onto the phone. That would be taking Kool Aid drinking too far.
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by dhavleak March 4, 2010 11:03 PM PST
One thought though -- it would be interesting if MS were to allow only signed apps to run on the device.

Signing doesn't mean "app store only" -- you could still sign and distribute apps through your own channels whatever they might be. Signing also doesn't mean that MS has control -- the singing certificates (that I'm proposing) would be provided by 3rd party Certificate Authorities just like on Windows. And it doesn't even add cost -- there are now free Root CAs (at least for Windows) that app developers can use if they want to pay for a signing cert.

However, it does mean that there will be at least one more level of defense against malicious software running on your device. (and authors of malicious apps could be tracked down and sued because of the cert they used to sign their app). It's not a cure-all -- you still have to make sure thare aren't any remotely exploitable holes in your s/w -- but it will go a long way in ensuring device health.
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by Renegade Knight March 5, 2010 7:38 AM PST
@ dhavleak

Response in Random Order

1) The desktop capablity is exactly what WinMo did that was good. Interface...maybe not so much.
2) Stablity...true enough. They could solve that without dumbing down the destkop ability though.
3) Scroll bars. Scrolling is something they all do. You don't need the bars on a capacative screen. Resistive (like most WinMo of old) works better with the bars. They all scroll. Program design that keeps it simple so you don't need to scroll is the best overall.
4) OEM UI. I never had an issue with this as I always had the straight MS UI. However it's a fair point.

Android is not as funtional as WM 6.5. I've had to find workaround for some of the simple things I could do with WinMo. Then again on my touch the workaround doesn't even exist.

I agree on the App store. It's great having everthing in one spot. However I find that some hobby programmers write some simple and handy programs that were useful. They were my favorite WinMo apps. I want to be able to install these things from their website without having them need to deal with the app store hasstle just to get listed. Android does have this option. Old WinMo did as well. Apple takes hacking. We shall see if new WinMo drank this deep.
by hashref March 5, 2010 9:02 AM PST
@Renegade Knight

With a requirement of signing many times also comes the ability to tell the installation operation to go ahead and continue to install tho its not signed. That way if it screws your system up the blame is on the enduser that clicked OK without heeding the warning. If this option were not provided then it would indeed be a pain at times. MS is getting much better about locking down their systems while at the same time providing methods to unlock/bypass the security of your system with the consent of the end user.
by Seaspray0 March 5, 2010 9:26 AM PST
Total reset indeed! I do hope one feature does work its way to the new archetecture: active sync. For business to take a smart phone seriously, it must do corporate email. Ina Fried, can you find out if active sync will be there?
by Random_Walk March 7, 2010 7:16 AM PST
"I do hope one feature does work its way to the new archetecture(sic): active sync."

I believe that Microsoft has spent far too much money and time into ActiveSync to simply drop it.

Now whether or not developers will be allowed near that feature? Dunno. I'm willing to wager that they'll be allowed to access certain SharePoint APIs (which naturally require SharePoint on the back-end), but that would be it, unless you wanted to do something web-based. I'm thinking that no Exchange/Outlook functionality clones would be allowed under any circumstances, though... either Microsoft provides it, or you do without.
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by mados123 March 4, 2010 9:06 PM PST
Impressive that Silverlight will be able to be used. Their implementation with that technology and the Winter Olympics is unsurpassed.
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by TheReaperD March 4, 2010 9:21 PM PST
I hope that was sarcasm. There were many, many complaints with the Olympics using silverlight. Even the lousy Flash video player worked better.
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by mados123 March 29, 2010 12:05 PM PDT
Uhh, there were more than 45 million live streams over 710 million page views including live streaming in HD. How many is many to you?
by IT_worker March 4, 2010 9:27 PM PST
IT"S A CLOSED PLATFORM!

Windows Phone 7 Series is completely closed. There'll only be 1 app store where you can only buy apps that have been approved first by Microsoft. There'll only be 1 browser, and every phone will have a hard-wired Bing Button that you can't change to Google. It's much more locked down than iPhone ever was.
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by fudbuster77 March 4, 2010 9:36 PM PST
For a product that hasn't been released yet, you sure know far more about this product than the reporters or industry that Micorsoft released the information to.

What's your source? I'm sure CNET would love to quote it for this exclusive info!

Or... in other words, you don't have any more clue than anyone else and are just guessing. And that's fine too. I'm guessing the OS will feature pink elephants myself,and that as much credibility as your own guess.

I love my iPhone, but I'm all for competition.
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by paulej March 4, 2010 9:40 PM PST
No, it's only closed when you get it. If you throw it on the ground hard enough, it'll become an open platform.
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by IT_worker March 4, 2010 9:58 PM PST
Ballmer has already been quoted in the past week as saying that he won't allow carriers to change Bing for another search engine. And who else is developing a browser for WP7S? Nobody.
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by Jive Turkey March 4, 2010 11:31 PM PST
There's at least 5 WM web browsers. What makes you think that they're all going to give up on WP7?
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by deniceels March 5, 2010 1:12 AM PST
err, if you can code in silverlight, how can it possibly be closed? It's like saying you code in Adobe Flash, and you can only use it on certain websites, or better, Java apps.
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by Ebraheem March 5, 2010 4:11 AM PST
@ IT_worker
I wasn't aware that the next generation iPhone will use Windows Phone 7. I'm guessing Microsoft will also out-source their whole Windows Phone division to Apple?
by theansaname March 5, 2010 8:43 AM PST
if you didn't pick up on everyone's response, they are calling you a hypocrite. Thought I be more direct about it.
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by richard993 March 5, 2010 4:53 PM PST
The app store for Microsoft is a complete disaster. $99 to join the program, and $99 for each program to be tested, and another $99 to get the program to be tested again if it fails. This platform will not attract any developers. Without any applications, the platform will become a failure...

what that you say? yeah it's already a failure.
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by monkeyfun14 March 7, 2010 7:41 AM PST
@richard

Mind posting a source?
by fudbuster77 March 4, 2010 9:38 PM PST
I want to see more competiion. I like the idea of doing something similar to the iPhone which I do use daily, where the interface is the same on all devices. Allowing carriers to skin or even limit what the hardware or OS could do was a disservice to end users. The same cell phone could have the same hardware, but different features unlocked by different carriers. Very frustrating.

It looks like MSFT is pretty serious about this one. I thought it would be backwards compatible with prior Winmobile products, but that seems to be not the case here. A clean break.

Rather.... Apple like in that regard. :)
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by artistjoh March 4, 2010 9:54 PM PST
It is a fascinating indication of the impact the growth of Apple is having when the biggest 'other' computer platform maker not just tries to copy the surface appearance of Apple's products but is now coming to appreciate and implement the very successful Apple strategy of limiting options in order to improve consumer experience.

Tech blogs may well be full of geeks who prefer platforms to be open so they can do what they like on them but the vast majority of mobile users prefer the locked down walled garden approach since it means things work easily and a minimum of learning and understanding is required. The more Microsoft locks down their new mobile system the more successful it is likely to be since it is the average person in the street rather than the technologically savvy who dictate whether or not a device is a success or not.
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by rwm72 March 4, 2010 10:46 PM PST
"Tech blogs may well be full of geeks who prefer platforms to be open so they can do what they like on them but the vast majority of mobile users prefer the locked down walled garden approach since it means things work easily and a minimum of learning and understanding is required."

Spot on. Well said artistjoh. The vast majority of users are not feature counters, or spec sheet slaves. To users it's about ease of use, and when all works well, it's about the inuitive nature of the UI. Hence the reason users rave about iphone, and Mac users have long lauded the Mac OS for the same reasons.

Many tech bloggers may despise Apple, but the darling of the enterprise Microsoft has finally realised Apple are on to something, and MS desktop business model that has been so successful cannot be just shoe horned into the mobile market. The big danger for MS though, is alienating the tech bloggers or IT professionals who have supported MS for so many years. RIM has been feeding on this market for some time already.

By closing the Mobile OS, at least in part, many may switch to Android from WinMo just on the principle of not being closed. Symbian may also rise, especially in countries where Nokia is considered favourably. Some of these countries are heavily populated and have a growing global market share. Victory is by no means guaranteed for MS, despite finally delivering an improved mobile OS.
Apple-pi also sums in up well by saying 'I think that at this point, with Android and Symbian free and open, Windows Mobile will be a hard sell...'
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by artistjoh March 4, 2010 11:24 PM PST
@rwm72
Developers can do a lot to influence things but it is a mixed bag and a lot to do with timing. By leading the pack Apple gained the critical mass of developers which then were a large part of its success, but the equally good WebOS from palm suffers because developers are too busy with the iPhone already and because they stay away the platform ends up being a sales failure.

OTOH because of the success of the iPhone developers virtually have to develop for it because if they don't they are turning their back on 75 million devices with the highest rate of app sales per user in the industry and so it is unwise not to develop for the iPhone. In that scenario it doesn't matter that hundreds or even thousands of developers choose to abandon the iPhone in favor of Android because the supply of new developers keeps increasing anyway.

Where Microsoft is being clever is that they do not need those developers who will gravitate to Android because they are tapping into the gaming network that X-Box provides and this critical mass of existing users will ensure that there will be significant numbers of app developers who will develop for WinMob7 especially since Microsoft is simplifying the process by limiting options.

Symbian will be the one left in the cold unless they do precisely what Microsoft has just done and create a simplified and restricted environment because the more truly open environment has already been colonised by Android but Symbian lacks the cool factor that Android exploits. Despite Nokia owning Symbian I expect to see Android based Nokia phones in the not too distant future replacing their own Symbian OS.
by Renegade Knight March 5, 2010 7:41 AM PST
The limitation of my options didn't improve my customer expereince. Quite frankly owning a touch told me exactly why I do not at all want an iPhone. It took non apple software to get my music on my touch with ratings intact. A simple thing Apple should understand.

Alas if "It just works" means "It only works so long as you give up half of what you want to do" it's really not a better way. My entire family has beat their head in frustration trying to force Apple products to do the job.
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by apple-pi March 4, 2010 9:56 PM PST
I think that at this point, with Android and Symbian free and open, Windows Mobile will be a hard sell...

And because it is a "clean" break, everyone currently invested into the platform (and that's like what, 40%?) will have a reason to cut the cord and to switch to a different platform.

Given that Windows Mobile, WebOS and iPhone are closed systems, I think Android and Symbian will benefit the most from this. I wonder how much of its market share MS will lose by the end of the year...
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by bradyobrien666 March 4, 2010 11:48 PM PST
WebOS Isn't completely closed. Although palm won't release the source, the devices running WebOS are very open to modification. Almost no effort is required to get 'root access', and palm isn't trying to stop anyone. Most android devices are more locked down than WebOS devices.
by hashref March 5, 2010 9:12 AM PST
In the consumer market it may be a hard sell compared to Android and Symbian, but in the corporate world it may catch on quicker than the others. With the need for these devices integrating with a companies existing communications infrastructure and the ability to manage the devices remotely, WP7 will likely fit the bill. As does the Crackberries. We are seeing a few iPhones but they amount to 1% or less. Without being able to easily integrate with Bloated Notes they're just not auited for our environment.

My point? I dont know other than that there is more than one market with gaps that need filling....
by andyveverkova March 5, 2010 12:33 AM PST
ehh, it's going to be tough to take down the giant that is the iphone but who knows. At leat the name's cooler than Zune, ha. http://bit.ly/Ipadvideo1
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by itsnah March 5, 2010 2:24 AM PST
I am an iPhone lover, but this just looks HOT. I'm really glad about this, competition is good, it will make Apple push the iPhone even further, I hope.
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by bugma302 March 5, 2010 3:06 AM PST
I almost get the impression Apple are going in the opposite direction.

The iPad suggests Apple think the iPhone GUI is unimproveable and instead, with the sueing of HTC, they're going to stop people making smartphones.
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by tipoo_ March 5, 2010 5:24 AM PST
I'd have to agree with Bugma, the iPhone OS interface, while good, has remained stagnant for too long.
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by giant_david March 5, 2010 11:08 AM PST
M$ was latter to the train and wants a Window seat. I am sorry for the pun.
by tipoo_ March 5, 2010 5:12 AM PST
I sure hope the HD2 gets an upgrade, it seems like its possible since they did just unlock some additional ROM and RAM through the firmware. However, MS is hush-hush.
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by splinterpaw March 5, 2010 5:45 AM PST
Sadly, Microsoft has already said that NO existing Windows Mobile phones will be upgradable, including the HD2. Personally, I have been far less than impressed with what I have seen with this new version and am leaning heavily towards Android as my next phone when the time comes.
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by weegg March 5, 2010 6:26 AM PST
Congratulations, MS you essentially killed your Mobile Windows market until Win7 mobile this comes out.

Good Job, Balmer.
by fudbuster77 March 5, 2010 11:43 AM PST
@weegg:

You have to admit MSFT hasn't been pushing the Windows Mobile OS for years now and you'd have to have been living under a rock to not know that. They have been laying back quietly preparing their new big thing.

And yes, releasing information about a new product does affect sales of existing one. Apple had this problem with the 1st gen iPhone when they announced the 2nd gen version coming out. It's the way of progress.

I waited until the 3GS model came out mostly because of my contract wasn't up with my carrier. I'm glad I waited.
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by Random_Walk March 7, 2010 7:31 AM PST
weegg has a point - between the failing marketshare and customer attachment ("what do you mean my iPhone apps won't work on this thing?"), Microsoft has now given its existing customer base a big middle finger.

Here's why:

* Existing WinMo customers probably won't be able to upgrade their existing phones to the new OS.
* These customers will be stuck with riding out their contracts, and thus won't be able to buy a WinMo 7 phone until their contracts die off (or they'll pay a very hefty premium to swap phones, along with carrier-mandated contract extensions).
* These same customers will have a bunch of apps they bought off the Microsoft app store(s?) that will either no longer be useful, or will require re-purchasing if they do get a WinMo 7 phone.
* The number of apps available on WinMo 7 will be next to nothing for a long time. Apple had a similar problem when the iPhone came out, but Apple had the advantage of creating a new market... Microsoft doesn't have that luxury.
by batpox March 5, 2010 7:48 AM PST
Ina, some things to ponder: although both Silverlight and XNA are .NET based, Silverlight (for the most part) is a lightweight WPF that lives in the browser, while XNA is what I use when programming the Zune. Will the Silverlight model for the WP7 permit out-of-browser development? Will the XNA permit 3D model rendering (unlike the current Zune HD)? Also, it is worth noting that the Zune runs on a flavor of WinCE, which I presume WP7 will also.

The big question for existing developers of commercial products for Windows Mobile: Will there be (A) a version that runs Winforms, or (B) is the solution an out-of-browser Silverlight app? If (A), how long with the support for 6.5 last?
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by renGek March 5, 2010 12:35 PM PST
Seems odd that they don't mention using visual studio as a development platform since it was used for mobile development in the past and as you say silverlight and xna are .net based.
by Synthmeister March 5, 2010 9:39 AM PST
The real question is not how great the OS is, the real question is how MS will make money on WinMo 7 if they are only charging $8 to $15 per license. They can't charge more, because Android is free and they can't hitch a free ride on the coattails of IBM this time like they did with the PC market. And, most of their former suitors are dating other OSes. Moto-Android, Sony-Android, Palm-WebOS, Samsung-Bada, HTC, LG-Android. Even BFF Intel has hooked up with Nokia and MeeGoo. The OEMs and Telcos don't really have a compelling reason to invest in WinMo 7 anymore, after all, 'free' is always better than cheap, right?

Meanwhile Apple is making over $600 per iPhone before they even sell one cent of music, movies, apps, e-books or "made-for-iPHone peripherals. MS desperately needs an entire ecosystem to make real money off of its WinMo division but they seem to be very far away from that position. The ecosystem won't even start to grow until WinMo 7 can sell 50 million phones.
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by TomMariner March 5, 2010 11:22 AM PST
Now Microsoft is dealing from its strength. it has always been a developer company (That operating system thing was just because Gary Kildall was a jerk toward IBM). To be able to leverage that great VS IDE and other developer tools will get them an insanely "rich" environment like Silverlight.

And I thought Redmond had fallen asleep!
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by socratesfoot March 5, 2010 1:20 PM PST
Ughhh..silverlight.

It's like someone said, you know what? Flash just isn't bloated enough, let's make a web platform that takes everything that is awful about Flash and makes it worse. then we'll make it proprietary and force it down everyone's throat.

It's got all the content of a $1 Mcdonald's cheeseburger.
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by wck59 March 5, 2010 3:26 PM PST
Have you ever programmed anything in SilverLight? It isn't bloated and it makes a lot more sense than Flash. At least with SilverLight you get your choice of languages to program in. It will be a great platform for phone apps!
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by richard993 March 5, 2010 4:42 PM PST
There are a few reasons why locking down the interface is a bad idea... and a few reasons why its a good one.

My list of pros and cons...

pro:
* the user interface built into the OS will consume less resources (although previous editions allowed customizations, these were often loaded on top of the existing user interface thus requiring additional memory footprint)
* the user interface will be a lot more responsive (customizations run very slow and hog up CPU thus reducing battery life)
* there will be consistency across mobile phones (this can also be a con)
* it will be easier to write applications that integrate with the user interface thus improving overall experience with running apps.

cons:
* all phones will look just as eachother so differentiation between manufacturers will be difficult.
* users may want more control over what they want
* telco providers may decide to drop support for the OS if they cannot provide a good user experience based on the services provided by them
* application developers may not be able to provide additional capabilities or extend the device to provide additional functionality (such as auto rotate functions provided by developers for earlier versions of windows mobile that did not support it natively)

Add to this list of pro's and con's if you have any in mind.
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by TeoDude March 6, 2010 4:44 PM PST
Ina, it seems like no one has addressed this yet (or maybe no one's thought to ask) but what about those of us who own Zune HDs? There are barely any apps right now but as the platforms are similar, will Zune HD owners be able to use apps available in the Windows Phone 7 marketplace?
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by MSSlayer March 7, 2010 10:40 AM PST
No one cares about fools who wasted their money on the Zune, you get what you deserve.
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by dinkeldorf March 7, 2010 9:59 AM PST
MS is heading down the right track but in this instance they're leaving no room for differentiation for device makers nor carriers. Since they've already defiled their 6.5 customer base, they should have gone the whole hog and done an MS phone. There's gotta be some serious deal making for manufacturers to get aboard this bus.
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by MSSlayer March 7, 2010 10:39 AM PST
So basically, after making fun of Apple, they are yet again following...
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