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February 7, 2010 9:00 PM PST

Microsoft aims for smooth streaming in Vancouver

by Ina Fried

Microsoft is aiming to make Web viewing of the Winter Olympics a lot more like watching the events on TV.

While Beijing brought the first widespread use of the Internet to deliver live video of the Games, the Vancouver Olympics--which starts February 12--will offer a range of new options, including TiVo-like features like pausing, rewinding, and replaying during a live broadcast. In addition, broadcaster NBC is using the adaptive streaming capability of Silverlight (Microsoft's rival to Adobe's Flash) to allow those with a good connection to get the Games in up to 720p high-definition quality.

Microsoft plans to try and tap into Olympic fever by placing a special module at the top of the MSN home page that focuses on the Vancouver Games.

(Credit: Microsoft)

"At the end of the day that's why people come, they want to see the video," said Jason Seuss, a senior technical evangelist for Microsoft. "They want it to be as big as possible and as high quality as possible."

In all, NBC plans to offer more than 400 hours of live competition and more than 1,000 hours of full-event replays.

The adaptive streaming technology also makes other new features possible. To power the streams, which dynamically change bit rates based on connection quality, the video is broken up into two-second segments. That approach to video streams allows for things such as the Tivo-like features, as well a new quarter-speed slow motion instant replay that is especially well suited to the high-speed events that fill the Winter Olympics schedule.

The technology also eliminates the hard distinction between a live stream and an on-demand replay.

In the past, if you wanted to watch an event live, you had to pick it up wherever it was at. To watch it on-demand, you had to wait until some time well after the event had finished. With adaptive streaming, NBC and Microsoft are able to eliminate that barrier, meaning you can watch an event from the beginning any time after it has started.

On the revenue side, Microsoft is also helping NBC by allowing the broadcaster to easily insert ads into the middle of video streams when there is a break in the action, something that proved to technologically challenging for Beijing, where only so-called "pre-roll" ads were used.

"They'll have an ad operator that is sitting there watching a stream," Seuss said. "They'll basically hit a button and it will do an ad insertion."

That, Seuss said, is a pretty big step. Plus, he said. "The really nice thing about smooth streaming is we can do that in a way that doesn't interrupt the user experience at all."

Microsoft is also looking to capitalize on the Winter Games in other ways, including Olympic-themed images on its Bing home page as well as a special results module on MSN.com.

There are also some tweaks being made based on lessons learned from Beijing. In some cases, the blogs and play-by-play commentary that accompanied Web streams from the Summer Games was ahead of the video action. This time around, such data will be better woven into the video footage with which it is associated, Suess said.

In another nod to sports fans, viewers to the NBC Olympics site won't have to see the score before they click on a video replay, something that irked many, including this reporter.

"That was an editorial decision made by NBC," Seuss said. "That wasn't a good decision; they've changed their stance on that this time around. When you go to watch a replay of hockey game, you won't see the score of the game in the title."

Another change for Vancouver is the fact that all streams will require Silverlight. With Beijing, Silverlight powered the enhanced player that offered the best quality and many of the cooler features, but a basic Windows Media-based player was also available. This time around, users will have to have Silverlight installed. Also, the video will be played in-page, a la YouTube, rather than through a separate player.

NBC is also tapping the capabilities of Silverlight to allow for the creation of more highlights packages more quickly. Whereas traditional highlights require an editor to cut the video clip, Silverlight allows for highlights to be created just by creating an XML file of the various time that one wants to start and stop.

That's important, because the demand for highlights is actually higher than for full streams of events, said Perkins Miller, Senior Vice President of Digital Media for NBC Universal.

"It's about that water cooler moment," Miler said in a telephone interview.

In Beijing, Miller said, that moment was Michael Phelps and his record-breaking tally of gold medals. "In Vancouver, who knows," Miller said.

NBC is also trying to tap into social networks, making it easy to post a link to a clip to social media sites like Twitter or Facebook. However, Miller said all the links will take users back to NBC's Olympics site. Miller said the network made the decision not to allow people to embed Olympics video directly on their site.

Miller said that doing so makes sure that those viewing the Olympics video will get access to the full range of features. "When you distribute highlights and small clips (via embedded video) you are getting only one dimension of the experience,"

One thing that neither Microsoft nor NBC had counted on in Beijing was the popularity of still photographs. This time around, Seuss said, the two are working on a Silverlight-based photo player that will use Microsoft's "Deep Zoom" technology.

People are also turning far more to phones, particularly smartphones to keep in touch, prompting NBC and Microsoft to spend more time on the mobile experience.

"People are using their mobiles and smartphones to stay in touch with sport like never before," Miller said.

Disclaimer: CNET is published by CBS Interactive, a division of CBS.

This is part of a series of stories looking at the technology that goes into the Winter Olympic Games. CNET's Ina Fried is covering that topic from various angles and will be in Vancouver for the games, which start February 12.

During her years at CNET News, Ina Fried has changed beats several times, changed genders once, and covered both of the Pirates of Silicon Valley. These days, most of her attention is focused on Microsoft. E-mail Ina.
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by kmtkr February 7, 2010 9:53 PM PST
silverlight silverlight, microsoft microsoft

don't care don't care, won't watch won't watch

at least we didn't get hit over the head with that damn table again...
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by topgunb2 February 8, 2010 3:37 AM PST
you read , you read , you commented , you commented, you do care, you do care
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by JonTitor February 8, 2010 6:03 AM PST
flash flash, adobe adobe, ads ads, cpu hog cpu hog
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by SactoGuy018 February 8, 2010 12:36 PM PST
I actually like Silverlight because it does a VERY good job of streaming video over broadband.

Mind you, it would have been a breakthrough to go HTML 5.0 with H.264 or Ogg Theora streaming but when even Firefox 3.6 is not fully HTML 5.0 compatible when it comes to video streaming, it's better to use a technology that most people out there can use now. Hopefully, by the 2012 Summer Olympics most web browsers will be HTML 5.0 compatible, which will allow the NBCOlympics.com site by 2012 to stream H.264 or Ogg Theora live video.
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by tm_anon February 7, 2010 10:13 PM PST
Why not use Flash since it's already installed on close to 100% of the target audiences computers? MLB already stopped using Silverlight because of the problems it was having, which cause many people to stop using it altogether.

By the time Silverlight actually works perfectly, or at least close enough to perfectly, HTML5 will have full adoption by every site out there, hopefully having at least one codec in common (don't care which one as long as it lets every user be equal).

At the very least, the Olympics site should use both Silverlight and Flash to stream video, defaulting to Silverlight if they must but falling back to Flash in any machine not having the plugin installed (like any Linux machine or OS X).
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by rbrown653 February 8, 2010 3:58 AM PST
this is ridiculous! HTML5 is definately a long time away from use on "every site out there." And silverlight is superior to flash in many ways!
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by JonTitor February 8, 2010 6:02 AM PST
you can get SilverLight on OS X
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by bajanx February 8, 2010 8:24 AM PST
Flash is not as capable as Silverlight. I watched the CES MSFT keynote live using silverlight his year and i swear this should be the standard. Tivo like features on the internet is just great and it moves effortlessly unlike its flash counterpart. No comparison. Now waiting for Netflixs to update to the latest version of Silverlight.
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by Uturnaroun February 8, 2010 12:21 PM PST
HTML5 will never be able to replicate every feature that Silverlight or Flash has. And between Silverlight and Flash, they may seem similar on the surface but they are different on a technical level. It would be harder to pull of what NBC is doing on Flash than it is with Silverlight.
by SactoGuy018 February 8, 2010 12:39 PM PST
NBC could have gone HTML 5.0 but since HTML 5 is not full finalized and the vast majority of web users can't stream H.264 or Ogg Theora video per HTML 5 specs, this route would also cut off a lot of users, too. Hopefully by 2012, all web browsers will be HTML 5 compatible, so the NBCOlympics.com web site could stream video per HTML 5 specs.
by roadatlas February 8, 2010 1:44 PM PST
@SactoGuy018

Expecting all browsers to be HTML 5 compliant presumes that the WC3 board will actually finalize the HTML 5 spec by then. I wouldn't hold my breath on it though.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HTML_5#Completion

Even the w3 website antipates they'd only be at the "recommendation" stage in 2012:

http://www.w3.org/html/wg/
by norcalrivercat February 7, 2010 10:55 PM PST
This sounds like it *could* be incredibly cool.
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by ctekjeff February 7, 2010 11:07 PM PST
I have managed thus far to not install Siverlight and I am not planning on doing it to for this either. I don't want another plug-in that causes mysterious slowdowns and crashes my browser. MS must have paid them a lot to get that deal. While I have not ejected Flash from my systems yet, I will soon.

-JT
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by korvinblue February 8, 2010 5:58 AM PST
Now that's just stupid. Why remove something that helps makes the internet less usable? If 50% (an arbitrary number) of the websites use Flash, that means you can't view 50% of the web as it was meant to be. You're also missing out on some cool Silverlight stuff. Off the top of my head, you could see a model of the USS Enterprise for Star Trek XI on the Internet. Using Silverlight. There is also this very high resolution shot of Obama's inaugural, using Silverlight. I'm sorry for you, you're missing out.
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by ahickey February 8, 2010 1:07 AM PST
I can see from a technology standpoint being able to manage the stream better an being able to insert ads would be a real advantage. It's just a pity that it requires another plug-in.
I mainly work from Linux, so I would need Moonlight to watch this (if I was in the US)

Another feature to add to HTML 5...
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by EcuadorHomesOnline February 8, 2010 1:16 AM PST
Silverlight beats Flash in pretty much every way possible. The video quality is far superior, the processing power needed to decode the video is substantially less (which means you can play back HD video without bogging down your system), the plug-in doesn't crash the browser (the Flash player is horrible in this regard), it's more bandwidth efficient (less cost for the content host), and the server architecture can serve many more streams (less servers needed). Sure, Flash has a much higher installed base, but I have to agree with NBC's decision on this one.
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by ddesy February 8, 2010 6:32 AM PST
Having witnessed the horrible NetFlix conversion to Silverlight, I have to say that Silverlight isn't what I would call a great technology. I've had more video tearing issues with Silverlight than Flash on a number of computers running different versions of Windows and OS X.

No, Silverlight just doesn't cut it.
by EcuadorHomesOnline February 8, 2010 9:11 AM PST
Silverlight uses DXVA acceleration, which is on almost every video chipset sold in the last five years. There is no reason why you should see ANY tearing (in fact, this is how you get the best playback when projecting HD Cinema from a PC in movie theaters ? it guarantees that you will never drop a single frame of video). It's easy set up a side-by-side stream and compare for yourself.
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by ark_v2 February 8, 2010 10:34 PM PST
I've used both and each is good in different things, but if Flash doesn't improve fast, Silverlight will take its spot; but as for now, Flash is better for user interfaces overall. Additionally, everybody already has the plug-in.
by korvinblue February 8, 2010 5:43 AM PST
LoL at the people who care about the flash-silverlight-HTML5 debate! It's a freakin' plug-in! Most of you are using windows now, and not IE. Use IE if you hate Silverlight that much. If you hate Flash that much, just hold out for the next 6-10 years for HTML5 is be stable and the standard. Heck, before you even diss Silverlight/HTML5 and say Flash is the best, realize that they'll probably force Adobe to make Flash BETTER! Competition is a good thing!
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by ddesy February 8, 2010 6:33 AM PST
When competition comes in the form of something as poor as Silverlight, there isn't much added incentive to improve other technology.
by Yukinagato February 8, 2010 11:22 AM PST
@ddesy
Um last i checked, HTML5 does not even have a video codex. If anything, HTML5 is just gonna be another iPad, all hype and DoA
by bajanx February 8, 2010 8:35 AM PST
Why are they so much silverlight haters on here. Its a plugin for crying out loud and a much better one than Flash. I use both and personally i wish everything was available in the latest version of Silverlight. I think you guys are hating on it because it happens to be a Microsoft product. Grow up and use the better technology regardless who the hell makes it. Fanboyism is so ridiculous nowadays. Im sure most of the people on this site use Firefox meaning you have on average 8-20 plugins including Flash wants one more thats isnt as much a hog on the system. My2cents!
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by Jeff Putz February 8, 2010 10:01 AM PST
The stupidity around plug-ins is staggering. Tell me, do some of you go to the grocery store and reject cheese in round containers in favor of square ones? That's pretty much what you're suggesting.

All of this nonsense about which plug-in sucks is pretty silly too. I've developed apps in Flash and Silverlight, and the development experience in Silverlight is a thousand times better. From the end user perspective, watching video in either format almost doesn't matter in most cases. The win in this case happens to be rooted in what the server can do in terms of streaming (as described in the article).

As for HTML 5, it's little more than a "dumb frame" when it comes to video. Do you really think that HTML and Javascript can offer the kind of rich experience that Flash and Silverlight can? Not a chance.
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by renGek February 8, 2010 10:44 AM PST
Would be nice to see a lot more tv programming this way. The closer we get to ditching cable tv as an option, the better it will be for consumers. Watch cable providers suddenly pay attention to customer service and better quality when that happens.

And for those of you whining about html 5, flash & silverlight. Do be quiet. You can all just close your browser, pout and not benefit from whats out there for all I care. I enjoy experiencing all kinds of technology on the web because they all require experimentation to find out what works and what doesn't work. I watched the us open last september on 720p while away from home and it was a fantastic alternative. Glad someone had to guts to try it.

And we all know why this debat is starting. apple can't do jack with flash so all of those zealots must proclaim html 5 as their next god because there is no other alternative. Bashing silverlight is not about silverlight but because its microsoft. We ALL know embracing html 5 doesn't mean jack tomorrow because its not an active choice. You mind as well say I'm not driving my car until it gets 150mpg. ok, go ahead and not drive and wait 10 years...I don't care. Step aside while the rest of us makes use of whats available.
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by AndroidFTW February 8, 2010 1:01 PM PST
Imagine if Apple got the contract and tried to use Quicksand...it would be a major FAIL.
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by adrianj February 8, 2010 3:46 PM PST
Silverlight = Awesomesauce.
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by Vertigo41004 February 8, 2010 7:49 PM PST
Nothing like watching womens curling at 3am in the morning!
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