October 27, 2009 1:59 PM PDT

Windows 7 is an all-ages show

by Ina Fried
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My great aunt is 92 and, as of Friday, she's a Windows 7 PC.

Now, Hilda is already not your typical nonagenarian. She is frequently online, does her finances in Quicken and recently abandoned AOL for Gmail (something I still haven't gotten my parents to do).

Unfortunately, while her mind is quick as ever, her Windows XP PC had slowed dramatically over the past few years, becoming nearly unusable. It's one of those things that many find so irksome about Windows PCs.

In any case, Hilda (I'm sparing her some spam by not including her last name) decided she needed a new computer and I offered to help. It was just a day after Windows 7 had made its debut and we headed to a local computer store. I found her a basic PC, monitor, and printer for $450 after rebate. She didn't really need the monitor, but it helped me a great deal as I transferred all of her files from her old PC to the new one.

If it were still the Windows Vista days, I might have been tempted to downgrade her new computer to Windows XP, so she wouldn't have to adjust to the new operating system.

But, with Windows 7 working so well, I actually felt comfortable she could make the switch, even though she's at the other end of the age spectrum from Kylie.

It took me almost no time to set up the new computer, but several hours to transfer over her settings and documents and then re-install Quicken and her other programs.

Amazing techie that she is, it took her almost no time to adjust to Windows 7's new look and feel. It's a few days in and I'm glad to report that things have continued to be smooth.

"It really is not very different from the XP I used before," she told me in an e-mail this week.

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by codynews October 27, 2009 2:07 PM PDT
"It took me almost not time to set up the new computer"

Think you wanted to say "almost NO time"

:)

Cody
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by Ina Fried October 27, 2009 2:28 PM PDT
Thanks. Fixing it now. -Ina
by darthstupid October 27, 2009 3:11 PM PDT
You might also want to fix the **front page**:

"Never to old to upgrade"?

Really guys, basic spelling here... Get your "to" vs. "too" figured out. How about:

"Never too old to upgrade"
by BelkyB October 27, 2009 6:35 PM PDT
You are missing a comma after 92 in the first sentence.

It is a compound sentence.

Cheers!
by DonaldStark October 27, 2009 7:35 PM PDT
So many pedants in here.
by stormyfeathers October 27, 2009 7:48 PM PDT
Love the new windows 7, had no problems installing. Was expecting it to take hours as indicated but no it was so quick. I had vista & used the upgrade option. All my files & settings are as before & I just love all the new features.
by darthstupid October 28, 2009 12:06 AM PDT
@DonaldStark:

That was an incomplete sentence. Come on man! =P
by b_baggins October 28, 2009 7:49 AM PDT
@donald

Because, of course, it's totally unreasonable to set any sort of professional expectation for someone paid to write.
by McDaveH October 28, 2009 11:41 AM PDT
Yup, my Dad (fast approaching 80) recently got an iMac & all the video & photo management he'd battled with on Windows is just pouring out now. His media has never been so organised and when I video chat with him (from the other side of the world - occasionally bringing in my brother who's elsewhere) he's amazed how Windows could have got it so wrong.

Maybe if Hilda had gone with a Mac she'd be trying new things rather than doing the same stuff because her XP machine needed a re-build - who knows! Then again most of the upgrade decisions aren't made by users evaluating their options, they're made by their close associates' pre-conceptions.

I guess it just shows you're never too old to learn!

McD
by lil-yankee October 28, 2009 5:29 PM PDT
jesus, i cant believe what's the big deal with all this gramarphobic people.
Grammar mechanics do not make you a better human, in fact, the way many of you rub it, make you guys seem as pedants, seriously. I know he was using windows 7 when he typed that and there was no suggestions as to what he is trying to type, giving him the possibility to be wrong. Computers can spell, but they do not check syntax, get it....?
by t8 October 27, 2009 2:09 PM PDT
Maybe the screen just froze up with both OS's and so the experience is the same?
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by Mewstone October 27, 2009 2:33 PM PDT
Sounds like a misguided MAC Boy answer. Get a life.
by kewell82 October 27, 2009 2:37 PM PDT
Thanks for the uneducated comment.
by t8 October 27, 2009 2:40 PM PDT
Na, not a Mac boy. Try again.
by sparrowhyperion October 27, 2009 3:49 PM PDT
It seems that Win 7 has all Mac fanboys running their mouths off in a futile attempt to justify your bad computer decisions to the world in general. Grow up and smell the silicon...
by sciontcya October 27, 2009 3:58 PM PDT
BUT - she started the upgrade when she was 63!
Dayam ;)
by Seaspray0 October 27, 2009 4:47 PM PDT
@t8. Your experience is always the same... you hate it no matter what. What else is new? After the billions of "M$ sux" posts by you and others, you haven't made a bit of difference because people won't listen to you when you show no respect for their choices.
by t8 October 27, 2009 6:01 PM PDT
If I dislike Microsoft and their past actions against consumers, standards, and the IT industry as a whole, as well as shipping sub-standard products and software, then that is my right.
by t8 October 27, 2009 6:13 PM PDT
About the screen freezing up, it is not a comment without merit.
http://news.cnet.com/8301-17852_3-10383702-71.html?tag=commProfileMain;profileBot#8547399
by dhavleak October 27, 2009 11:49 PM PDT
@t8

And if we think that you are blinded by hate, and your comments are without merit, then that is our right.
by t8 October 27, 2009 11:55 PM PDT
Yes you are free to support a company that has been detrimental to the Web and standards, not to mention getting away with charging high prices for sub-standard software and illegal bundling.
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by Mewstone October 27, 2009 2:36 PM PDT
Sounds like a frustrated MAC Boy. Go get a life.
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by rnaoncfixd October 27, 2009 3:27 PM PDT
Just because someone disapproves of Microsoft, automatically makes them a Mac Boy (by the way MAC is a make-up product, Mac is short for Macintosh). The guy could totally be a Linux or Ubuntu user.

I feel your hate isn't open enough to accept other possibilities.
by Perry_Clease October 27, 2009 4:43 PM PDT
"MAC is a make-up product, Mac is short for Macintosh)"

M.A.C. is the makeup line, MAC is Media Access Control and even a "Pc" has one. Maybe there is an easier way under Windows 7, but to find it on a PC under the various versions of Windows follow the steps here http://wintelguy.com/2009/20090215_find_mac.html
by ckh1272 October 28, 2009 3:32 AM PDT
You know something. Between the grammar and terminology nazis on here, why would anyone bother to actually make a valid post around here? Get a grip people.
by kojacked October 28, 2009 7:17 AM PDT
"Just because someone disapproves of Microsoft, automatically makes them a Mac Boy" - when it's just plain FUD or harping on issues that are a decade old you're right; they aren't a Mac Boy. They are simply haters who go through life with nothing to do but complain. They act like Microsoft personally targeted them and then cry like babies on these forums on how unjust that is or convert that into plain old "micro$haft $$$ucks". Just look at t8's posts. I think he needs to change his alias to plain old "h8".
by gotaghost October 27, 2009 2:48 PM PDT
Ack. The headline/play on News.com's home page reads "Never to old to upgrade." Too old. Too.
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by Gold_Storm_Mac October 27, 2009 2:55 PM PDT
"It really is not very different from the XP I used before,"
Should one trust this comment as valid?
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by Otto Holland October 27, 2009 3:21 PM PDT
There are differences, many as a matter of fact and faster than XP. I am not a Techi as desktop OS is a joke to what I do daily but WIN 7 is by far better than all before it.
It took me less than half hour last night to install the New 64 bit OS. By the way, I bought the family pack (3) license upgrade but want to move to 64 bit. This is not possible upgrading XP (the 32 bit version would have started but not 64) I reconfigured the boot drives as DVD first and that's all it needed. No problems with drivers, even my old Canon CanoScan 90 was installed by downloading the WIN 7 64 bit drivers from Canon. Piece of cake!
by Vegaman_Dan October 27, 2009 9:07 PM PDT
The comment has as much validity and credibility as yours do. Should we trust you?
by topgunb2 October 28, 2009 1:54 AM PDT
@Vegaman_Dan would you buy a product by trusting posts on cnet? get a life man
by yours_truly_michael October 27, 2009 3:03 PM PDT
My mother has UBUNTU on her pc for the past 6 months and she loves it. Yeah, that's right, it's Ubuntu Linux.

And now Ubuntu 9.10 releases on the 29th october 2009.

What does Ubuntu mean?

Ubuntu is an African word meaning 'Humanity to others', or 'I am what I am because of who we all are'. The Ubuntu distribution brings the spirit of Ubuntu to the software world.
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by captain_numerica October 27, 2009 3:46 PM PDT
Ubuntu is a pretty decent distro for people who don't like to get their hands dirty. (Read: it's a solid attempt at making Linux approachable to non-hardcore geeks.) And it's got a finely tuned UI. I won't argue with you there. (Although I happen to be somewhat biased towards FreeBSD and Solaris, but that's another story.)

But spare me the "humanity to others" crap. That's no different from Google's "do no evil" and Microsoft's "your potential, our passion" mantras. Don't buy into that crap from **any** company. (Yes, Ubuntu is run by Canonical Ltd which is another profit-driven company.)

I strongly agree that everyone should choose the right OS, car and toothpaste that fits their preferences. Nothing wrong with that. But don't fall for the idealistic "we want to save the world" marketing speak from *any* of these companies.
by rationalreview October 27, 2009 3:48 PM PDT
This is a win7 party, go away pooper.
by lazycat202 October 27, 2009 6:02 PM PDT
Ubuntu is good for basic users who just do typing and web. It's a solid distro. However, it's hard to find hardware drivers

i'm doing both Win7 and Ubuntu :P
by shellcodes_coder October 27, 2009 6:55 PM PDT
So she should waster her time updating it every 6 months
by MeepMan November 5, 2009 5:34 PM PST
Which is what the LTS edition is for? (hint: LTS stands for Long-Term Support, which is three years)
by yours_truly_michael October 27, 2009 3:05 PM PDT
Ubuntu is and always will be free of charge. You do not pay any licensing fees. You can download, use and share Ubuntu with your friends, family, school or business for absolutely nothing.
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by Seaspray0 October 27, 2009 4:34 PM PDT
Michael, do you get that feeling you are plugging away at a dead horse? For better results, you might post that in an article that is actually related to linux... and good luck.
by captain_numerica October 27, 2009 5:58 PM PDT
I respect your opinions and your admiration for Ubuntu. But with all due respect, please stop trying to push your opinions on other people. Ubuntu has nothing to do with this article.
by Vegaman_Dan October 27, 2009 9:08 PM PDT
Funny, I dn't know of any friends, family, school or business that uses Ubuntu. They all tend to use Macs, Windows PC's and the odd Red Hat Linux distro here or there.
by topgunb2 October 28, 2009 2:19 AM PDT
@Vegaman_Dan "Macs, Windows PC's and the odd Red Hat Linux distro " you mean "Windows PC's , Macs and the odd Red Hat Linux distro
by ckh1272 October 28, 2009 3:36 AM PDT
@topgunb2--Seriously. Are we going to start whining about what order somebody mentions something?? Reality. Try it one day.
by MeepMan November 5, 2009 5:36 PM PST
Please, stop! You're giving us a bad name! This isn't funny, spouting off bits off the website! Ubuntu is great but is not for everyone. I'll agree that it is better than Windows for most people, but copying and pasting text from the site is not helpful.
by nonicks October 27, 2009 3:05 PM PDT
I kinda liked your grandma's barometer for success of windows. I read your previous article on the same too.

But from this article it seems your Grandma is quite familiar with Windows and parents not as much.

What is your parent's experience with Windows 7? In my opinion they might be representing an average Joe of United States.

It would be interesting to see an average Joe's acceptance to Win 7.
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by Seaspray0 October 27, 2009 4:56 PM PDT
Ina, I too (to, two, ;-P) will be looking forward to an article on the average Joe's acceptance... or any other wide ranging barometer you come accross.
by johnwbaxter--2008 October 27, 2009 3:06 PM PDT
Congratulations Hilda. You will be happier with this machine.

--John (long time Mac user who uses Win 7 for non-financial personal stuff--work and financial still Mac)
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by cs2cdfan October 27, 2009 3:09 PM PDT
92 rockin 7 i love it. I hope we could all be so fortunate.
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by Joe Real October 27, 2009 3:20 PM PDT
Title on the main pages states "Never to old to upgrade"
Should have really been "Never TOO old to upgrade"
No spell checker can catch that one...
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by ckh1272 October 28, 2009 3:37 AM PDT
How many times are you people going to beat that dead horse? Let it go already. Sheez!
by bdhillon October 27, 2009 4:12 PM PDT
I've gotta ask - if your aunt is tech savvy enough... why not ask her to try something like Ubuntu? Or has she already tried it and didn't like it?
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by dmbonofiglio October 27, 2009 4:14 PM PDT
I love technologically literate older people. My grandmother was the first person I ever knew with and email address, cell phone, or wireless home network. A curse on my genetically ingrained gadget fetish!
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by AppleSuxLeo October 27, 2009 5:39 PM PDT
I have been one of Windows biggest supporters but...
Just had a thought to throw out there...
Could not Google be the one that finally makes Linux on the desktop a resounding success.
Has anyone else thought of this ?
Just look at what Android has accomplished in short order. It is based on Linux.
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by AppleSuxLeo October 27, 2009 5:43 PM PDT
Not an enterprise OS...just a consumer OS...Google OS.
If Chrome and Android are indicators of their potential , I think they could pull it off. I`m serious.
Google has the brains/money to do it , and PC`s would be cheaper to purchase.
by AppleSuxLeo October 27, 2009 5:47 PM PDT
If Google got behind Linux , I bet the manufacturers would take note and we would have the drivers we need in short order. The Linux code is free and open. Nobody is hiding anything.
Comments ?
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by lazycat202 October 27, 2009 6:04 PM PDT
we need more linux drivers and popular software!! it's my wish! Errr!
by cvaldes1831 October 27, 2009 7:29 PM PDT
In addition to better device drivers, don't forget decent end user documentation and lighter system administration loads.

Other than that, Linux is great!
by corelogik October 27, 2009 6:30 PM PDT
Aside from the spelling and grammar mistakes, there is nothing worth commenting on in this article as it's simply one persons experience upgrading a family member to Windows 7.
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by eltoro2827 October 27, 2009 7:20 PM PDT
"She is frequently online, does her finances in Quicken and recently abandoned AOL for Gmail (something I still haven't gotten my parents to do). "


why would anyone switch to gmail?
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by cvaldes1831 October 27, 2009 7:33 PM PDT
IMAP and search capabilities. But not reliability.
by sargess25 October 27, 2009 7:41 PM PDT
I prefer Linux Mint over Ubuntu, much more elegant and comes with codecs preloaded. I have installed in my bootcamp partition.

I think Hilda should have kept her old PC, re-installed Windows XP (a common occurrence to most hapless windoze users) and have Linux Mint installed in a partition so that she could get acquainted with a decent OS that actually works
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by EcuadorHomesOnline October 27, 2009 11:21 PM PDT
Way to go, Auntie Hilda!!!! I love hearing stories like this.
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by play7 October 28, 2009 6:15 AM PDT
Apple people just need to learn that people "THINK DIFFERENT" and for themselves unlike themselves. I really don`t care if you use Apple , Open Source OS..........To each their own....... Whats the point trying to brain wash other to believe like you? Live and let live
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