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October 6, 2009 11:57 AM PDT

Major outage hits T-Mobile Sidekick users

by Ina Fried
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Users of T-Mobile's Sidekick have been suffering through a major outage over the past several days that left many without access to the Web or their address books.

Microsoft, whose Danger subsidiary powers the Sidekick service, said it is "working urgently" to deal with the problems, which interrupted data service for most Sidekick users starting at 1:30 a.m. PDT on Friday. The level of disruption has varied, though most users have been affected, Microsoft said.

"We are working around-the-clock to get all our services back online and will continue to post status updates to our valued customers as issues are resolved," Microsoft said. "We thank our customers for their patience and sincerely apologize for any inconvenience this disruption has caused."

(Credit: Corinne Schulze/CNET)

Microsoft said that, as of 6 a.m. PDT Tuesday, it had restored service "for critical applications including address book and calendar, social media applications, IM, web browsing, media player and camera."

"Our goal is to have all services restored to 100 percent functionality by Thursday; however there may be some exceptions," Microsoft said. The software maker bought Danger last year.

T-Mobile offered an updated statement on Tuesday, apologizing for the outage and saying it would credit users for one month's service because of the interruption.

T-Mobile's Sidekick forums are filled with comments from users expressing their frustration over the issue.

Among those affected was Ariel Barco, who said he noticed his service out on Friday night and got his service restored last night. But not all of his friends have been so lucky, he said.

"Many of my friends have Sidekicks and one in particular is still waiting for her address book to be restored as we speak," Barco said.

He said the outage was frustrating since it limited the ability to access social networks and the Internet, which made it hard to plan for the weekend. Plus, Barco said, T-Mobile didn't do a good job of communicating what was going on. "The issue was not communicated to the user base," Barco said. "I found out about the outage on Saturday after checking blogs and T-Mobile forums and T-Mobile's Twitter. I also checked with acquaintances with Sidekicks."

Update 1:50 p.m. PDT: Statement from T-Mobile was added.

During her years at CNET News, Ina Fried has changed beats several times, changed genders once, and covered both of the Pirates of Silicon Valley. These days, most of her attention is focused on Microsoft. E-mail Ina.
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by mrcjacobs October 6, 2009 12:03 PM PDT
Hmmmmmm. I can't remember there ever being an outage before Danger was gobbled up....
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by Michichael October 6, 2009 12:16 PM PDT
"Crap, it's not our fault. We just own them and told them to make a change even though they said not to."
by mbenedict October 6, 2009 2:04 PM PDT
Um, Sidekick has had a LONG history of outages way before Microsoft's acquisition.

E.g., early last year just before the MS deal was closing, T-Mobile US had a national two-day outage.

And in 2005 there was a global outage which lasted about four days.
by Chao_Sama October 6, 2009 12:29 PM PDT
That's a prett sad situation...
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by Chao_Sama October 6, 2009 12:29 PM PDT
prett = pretty
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by kazimer07 October 6, 2009 12:32 PM PDT
Yeah critical applications like myspace and facebook... I still have no contacts.
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by gggg sssss October 12, 2009 5:10 PM PDT
fear the cloud
by sharmajunior October 6, 2009 12:44 PM PDT
Someone probably fell asleep at the wheel and knocked out the power.
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by DaveinDC October 6, 2009 1:07 PM PDT
I used Sidekick until 2 years ago -- I gave up for same reason: outages. IT has been a major problems for LONG TIME and I'm not surprised this happened again. I'm deaf and I depend on pager as much as hearing people depends on cell phone. Many deaf and hard of hearing gave up Sidekick over the years and I would not be surprise several friends of mine will give up soon.

When I read MS purchased Danger, I still knew MS couldn't resolve the outage. I think Sidekick network needs to be rebuild from bottom up.
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by inkandchaos October 6, 2009 1:13 PM PDT
If there were a major IT-type outage at my workplace affecting the flow of business to this degree, you can bet that ALL hands would be working on the problem, around the clock, until it was resolved. I daresay most if not all companies would hold their IT folks to this type of standard.

Apparently Microsoft doesn't! What a great place it must be to work somewhere that's so tolerant of mistakes and foul-ups! Now I want to work there... I don't imagine that my lack of qualifications will present the slightest obstacle to my hiring, either.
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by timber2005 October 6, 2009 1:40 PM PDT
Err... ""We are working around-the-clock to get all our services back online" was in the article.
And its something Microsoft OWNS. Not runs. Microsoft pays the checks. They don't make the managerial decisions. Their developers aren't responsible for the software. The engineers aren't responsible for the hardware.
by tech_crazy October 6, 2009 2:50 PM PDT
@timber2005
Re-read the article. The 1st line in the 2nd para says "Microsoft, whose Danger subsidiary powers the Sidekick service," and not "Microsoft, who owns Danger". From that it seems they run it, owning or not is a separate issue altogether.
by technocrat65 October 12, 2009 8:21 AM PDT
No, I am sure it would be your arrogant attitude and poor reading skills that would keep you out. Danger has had these outages for a long time, MS bought them and they are looking at how to make them more reliable. In the meantime, another outage has occurred. I am encoruaged that MS bought them and Danger has a brighter future ahead.
by Dan7637 October 6, 2009 5:56 PM PDT
sidekick = fail
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by shashkwash October 6, 2009 6:07 PM PDT
Who gives a rats a** about the internet going out on sidekicks for a few days.. Boo f***** hoo.. Use your laptop, desktop, public computer.

Now on to more pressing issues.. WHY DID THE CONTACTS HAVE TO BE DELETED?!?!
I figured okay, its an inconvenience but I can access my contacts online via the desktop interface. WRONG! The site is down... And I'm sure we're all swarming the site at the same time which may not be so good.

So I lye in wait for my contacts to respawn or to be able to retrieve my contacts through the site. Until then, I can't talk to my family......

On the upside, a free month of service sounds like a fair exchange. No worries tmobile, I can go without contacts if it means free service.
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by gggg sssss October 12, 2009 5:13 PM PDT
what part of "database hosed" is hard to understand?
by cnetnino October 6, 2009 6:38 PM PDT
Tmobile just sold their soul to the devil...Microsoft...why did they do that, no regards for their loyal customers just money and profit in a hard time like now we should all unite and boycut them by switching companies...Fight the power do not pay cancellations fee lets have a class action law suit...down with the microsoft tyrants...
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by truckerfromhell October 10, 2009 4:41 AM PDT
hey cnetnino... Why don't you grow up?
by parts_girl October 7, 2009 10:18 AM PDT
does anyone know if this gives me grounds to terminate my service contract? I've had so many problems with the sidekick... t-mobile won't do anything... offer me a different phone, nothing... i run a small business and am constantly on the road - no contacts for 5 days lost me a lot of time and money, plus 411 fees... this is a major headache i am just done with them now.
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by gggg sssss October 12, 2009 5:13 PM PDT
and if you use salesforce then you are doubely dumb.
by cylysh30 October 13, 2009 6:15 AM PDT
parts_girl: I just saw an update this morning that T-Mobile is letting people out of their contracts. I will be going today!
by denver88 October 8, 2009 7:17 AM PDT
I just talked with my provider this morning, and T-Mobile accepts no responsibility, and will not allow termination of service without the full penalty - this without any idea of when they're going to get they're s---- together. They just created a new iphone customer....unbelievably poor service.
Ps. My sidekick has been nothing but disappointing overall, reboot errors, etc... in addition to this latest breakdown.
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by DaveinDC October 8, 2009 9:30 AM PDT
Any update? My friend told me last night he only got half of his emails downloaded. Is the service back to normal?
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by smo0 October 8, 2009 10:31 AM PDT
This is bad. I got my sidekick specifically because of the ability to back up all of my contacts no matter WHAT happened to my phone. I've been with them for over 7 years. I had an emergency after all of my settings got reset, including my alarm to wake up for work and when I tried to call a friend for a ride, low a behold - my contact still had not been restored. I phoned into to Tmobile and begged them to do what they could to get the contacts restored - she said there are no backups and they are permanently gone with absolutely no way to retrieve them.
I tried to cancel my contract with them a week before this crap went down too - there was an update to all tmobile policies for the overage fees being increased which voids the original contract - you can also read about this on consumerist..... anyways, I called them and they said despite the changes to the contract that was signed, I was not eligible because I had not gone over my minutes. So in otherwords, because I'm a good customer - I'm not allowed to cancel service with a void contract.... and now THIS. I could have forgiven this if they had the kept the "promise" of always having a back up of my sidekick information; but this almost cost me my job. I'm all for a class action.
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by iPhoneisthebest October 9, 2009 7:50 AM PDT
Dear T-Mobile Sidekick users,

I would say you are dumb to keeping your T-Mobile Sidekick for years. I left T-mobile for AT&T iPhone - An iPhone is the best to keep in contact and never have any problem like T-Mobile Sidekick has. However, I am still wondering why all of you are still keeping your T-Mobile Sidekick if they have been repeating problem? Therefore, you shall not be complaining your T-Mobile Sidekick if you are still keeping them, if you're complaining your T-Mobile Sidekick - leave them and join other carriers, don't you get it?

I would say you are deaf and dumb because you are still staying with your T-Mobile Sidekick - If you want to be deaf and smart? As simple as leave them and join other carriers.

Bye T-Mobile Sidekick, Hello AT&T iPhone :)

Wish all you good luck with your T-Mobile Sidekick!
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by OfficerNelson October 12, 2009 12:31 PM PDT
Dear Apple Fanboy,

Nobody cares about your opinion. iPhones have no service in San Fran and heavily urbanized areas. Is that not a problem? CNET just covered it heavily a week or two ago.

Go advertise to someone else.
by la_happy05 October 9, 2009 6:25 PM PDT
i want my sidekick to work i have over 200 contacts and now i dont have any. i love my sidekick and i really dont wanna get a new phone anytime soon so please fix this problem as soon as possible.
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by steppnav October 10, 2009 7:19 AM PDT
:frown: I orginially voted "undecided" about switching off of my SideKick, but it would be wrong for me to stay with MicroSoft/Danger. I've worked in corporate IT for many years. Multi-day outages are only understandable for the very LEAST important applications. A down server is supposed to be merely a down component in a System of multiple redundant servers (and network and power and location and backups). I don't get it. But I do get that these folks can't be trusted as stewards of my information. "Software As A Service". Yeah, right. The days of professionals in IT is in the past. Back to using my phone as a phone and relying on hard copy in my pocket...or we'll see if Google (Android) can be a bit more responsible as a company with REAL IT.
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by timjones17 October 12, 2009 5:10 AM PDT
I have a Samsung Omnia i910 Window Mobile 6.1 with Verizon Wireless, and I'm very happy with it. I back up my data on the phone using Microsoft My Phone, also on different hard drives. Check out the i910 if you're looking for a new phone.
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by gti_gti October 15, 2009 9:38 AM PDT
Looks like they have not been testing their software and hardware before deployment.
They should have tested it with a simulator by creating a virtual lab with all cloud hardware and servers.
If they had done this, they would have found the issue very quickly before going public with it.
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