October 5, 2009 10:34 AM PDT

Dell: Order a Vista PC and get it with Windows 7

by Ina Fried
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Dell has come up with a novel way to allow customers to pre-order machines with Windows 7.

Under its Windows 7 Free and Easy program, launched on Monday, customers can order a Windows Vista machine now, but elect to have Dell upgrade the PC to Windows 7 before it ships the computer. As a result, customers can order now and get their machine right around the time Windows 7 ships.

It's kind of the reverse of programs that PC makers did after XP could no longer be sold on most new PCs. In that case, computer makers, including Dell, allowed users to order Vista machines that were pre-downgraded to Windows XP.

Dell's latest offer is more about convenience than price. For some time now, those who buy a Vista machine with Home Premium or above have been eligible for a free upgrade to Windows 7. However, that requires a user to sign up and upgrade the machines themselves. The Dell program eliminates that step.

Of course, one could also just wait until October 22 and just get a Windows 7 machine without the semantics. But who likes to wait?

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by TinyIoda October 5, 2009 11:13 AM PDT
"I am a pc.. and more happy is coming!" ~ 4 year old
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by espeed623 October 5, 2009 11:56 AM PDT
Flamewars, flamewars, flamewars. Wintards and ******** go head to head yet again. Oh, and then there's the occasional Lintard to add to the incredibly stupid arguement. I'm a PC and Mac and I use what I use!
by shycelticwitch October 5, 2009 12:28 PM PDT
I am sure that the 4-year old demographic is totally thrilled with this novel idea, they probably make up 50% of the 91.3% MS market share (if you include adults that, like 4-year olds, don't know any better). We'll see what the rest of the computing world thinks on 10/22.
by TinyIoda October 5, 2009 12:37 PM PDT
@espeed623

actually i was just quoting the commerical with the 4 year old girl 'using' win7. I thought it was cute. Though the apple comment did push me a bit.

side note.. im buying a mac in the coming days/weeks.. my students are asking more and more questions related to software on their mac and id love to be able to support them... i dont like that i cant support them 10% of the time simply because they use a different platform then im used too
by aka_tripleB October 5, 2009 1:27 PM PDT
Some people, including kids, don't like being treated like kids, and that's why they don't choose Macs.
by baconstang October 5, 2009 2:14 PM PDT
'm sure the 4 year old did all those photo trix. I just wonder how hard a time she had getting the ad execs to OK them.
by dhavleak October 5, 2009 2:25 PM PDT
@ shycelticwitch

When did you start trolling MS-related articles so much? I understand you're a Mac fan, but why do you insist that what works for you must work for everyone else?
by gggg sssss October 5, 2009 5:21 PM PDT
@shycelticwitch you know of course MS will ship a million unit swithin the first week - more than all of linux and Mac and Solaris combined for the month. LOL
by kelmon October 6, 2009 4:27 AM PDT
"Some people, including kids, don't like being treated like kids, and that's why they don't choose Macs."

With all due respect, that's just FUD. In what way does a Macintosh treat you like a kid? Windows, frankly, treats me like a kid more than a Mac does. For example, why does Windows ask you if you are sure that you want to delete a file if it is only going to be placed into the Recycle Bin and can be restored?

What platform you choose is up to you, of course, but talking nonsense about others because you choose something else is just idiotic.
by Random_Walk October 5, 2009 11:28 AM PDT
Does this include the $17 handling fee that some OEMs are charging?
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by mbenedict October 5, 2009 12:01 PM PDT
What are you talking about? The up to $17 shipping & handling OEMs may charge is obviously only applicable if they separately mail you a physical Windows 7 media if you already bought a Vista machine. The article clearly says Dell will be installing Windows 7 at factory. Why do you think the shipping & handling still apply? Is that how Apple does business?

Plus Dell is already on the record saying they're not going to charge US customers anything for the Windows 7 upgrade, even when they ship the media to you. But off course you already knew that, so please spread your FUD elsewhere.
by lazycat202 October 5, 2009 12:04 PM PDT
true shoppers compare the overall price.
$700 or $1,100 ?? your choice!
by Random_Walk October 5, 2009 12:35 PM PDT
"What are you talking about?"

http://www.mouseprint.org/2009/10/01/hidden-fees-discovered-for-free-windows-7-upgrades/

"The up to $17 shipping & handling OEMs may charge is obviously only applicable if they separately mail you a physical Windows 7 media if you already bought a Vista machine."

...which would obviate the "free" portion, now wouldn't it? Note that I never mentioned Dell specifically. ;)

"The article clearly says Dell will be installing Windows 7 at factory."

...so you get to wait a couple of weeks before your computer shows up, or it arrives with Vista + upgrade 'rights'. Yay?
by tipoo_ October 5, 2009 12:44 PM PDT
I hope they dont charge Canadians for shipping Win7 either. Time will tell, i geuss, but I'm exited for the free upgrade either way.
by Vegaman_Dan October 5, 2009 5:59 PM PDT
I haven't seen or heard of this fee, but that is not terribly surprising. Companies everywhere love to impose fees of all sorts to help make up for lost revenue. AT&T, Comcast, airlines- service fees are all the rage these days.

Apple even charged me $50 to service my iPod Touch.... which was covered by their warranty. Go figure.

The media fee you mention is just another example of ways for an OEM to grab whatever money they can, however they can.

It should be made clear that this has nothing to do with Microsoft. This is only the choice of OEM's to charge such a fee.
by lvcsslacker October 5, 2009 12:09 PM PDT
Hasn't this been a deal for everyone since they announced the program?
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by Dan7637 October 5, 2009 12:13 PM PDT
i already upgraded my pc to windows 7, so haha to those suckers who are still waiting
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by ddesy October 5, 2009 12:42 PM PDT
Hopefully you upgraded legitimately. Last I knew the only version available was the volume licensing one.
by SactoGuy018 October 5, 2009 1:38 PM PDT
@ddesy, there's also another group of legitimate users: those who are members of the Microsoft Developer's Network (MSDN). A lot of them were able to download the release to manufacturing (RTM) final release of Windows 7 at least a month ago, and these users have legitimate license keys.

Mind you, I wouldn't use Windows 7 unless you're a very advanced user until October 22, 2009, mostly because on that date the peripheral manufacturers will officially release software drivers that work specifically with Windows 7.
by cyclonica1980 October 5, 2009 12:15 PM PDT
It is a nice gesture, but I will still never touch a Dell.
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by gggg sssss October 5, 2009 5:22 PM PDT
pity, you are missing a good thing
by kelmon October 6, 2009 4:32 AM PDT
I am going to be inflicted with a Latitude E6400 this week since it is the corporate IT policy now. I sincerely hope that Dell has got their act together over the last few years because the desktops and laptops that I have had from them previously have been so stunningly awful machines that the thought of using another just makes me shudder. In my experience they are cheap because they are made cheaply and it shows. Fingers crossed that the new one bucks the trend.

Unfortunately, the PC will come with XP installed and no chance of an upgrade to Windows 7 until next year.
by ajcroteau October 5, 2009 12:21 PM PDT
Buy the parts and build the PC yourself, at least now there's no question of whether or not whoever built the machine cheap'd out on the graphics card. ;)
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by gggg sssss October 5, 2009 5:23 PM PDT
heck, if you wanted to waste money you could buy a mac, Or even more fun, buy teh parst at NAPA an dbuild your own car.
by baconstang October 5, 2009 5:44 PM PDT
ssss ggggg are you typing upside down or something?
by kelmon October 6, 2009 4:34 AM PDT
Building a PC yourself isn't worth the hassle. I used to do it years ago when PC games were still interesting but its not the cheapest way to go and if anything goes wrong then you have to deal with individual companies.
by xtrasico October 5, 2009 1:10 PM PDT
Just like ajcroteau says: I build my PC's myself and install a KICK-BUTT video card.

My Win98-WinXP-Win7-BackTrack PC gives me no head aches.
So, your problems with Win's must be a cheap hardware / user thing.
No disrespect meant. Just IMHO.

(yes, Win98... for really old games)

PS: I have the RC version of Win7 or whatever is called and it is kinda nice. Way better than Vista (even though my Vista laptop never gives me problems...).
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by Eagle70ss October 5, 2009 1:22 PM PDT
Although I do like this gesture by dell, may it be said that most machines come with Vista Home Basic, which is not eligible for the upgrade, by default. It usually costs extra to equip your machine with Vista premium or above. Therefore how much are you really saving with the "free" 7 upgrade?
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by Gold_Storm_Mac October 5, 2009 1:47 PM PDT
Bypass vista. best idea ever.
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by sharmajunior October 5, 2009 3:34 PM PDT
Actually its a better idea to upgrade to Windows 7 yourself than to let Dell install it with a bunch of crap on it.
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by Vegaman_Dan October 5, 2009 6:03 PM PDT
It's always fun to watch people who just cannot wait and will go to whatever lengths to get something early. It's an OS, folks. Oct 22nd is only a couple of weeks away.
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by baconstang October 5, 2009 6:45 PM PDT
Seriously.... I'm going to get SL, but will wait for 10.6.2 at the earliest.
by Gold_Storm_Mac October 5, 2009 7:01 PM PDT
sl is running absolutely fine already on my macbook.
by kelmon October 6, 2009 4:38 AM PDT
I'd definitely recommend waiting on 10.6.2 or 10.6.3 unless you need Snow Leopard now. I've had various bugs with a clean install, particularly with Mail, although 3rd party software support is now much better. This is the last time that I buy an Apple OS on Day 1.

However, I entirely agree with Vegaman - it is not long to wait now unless you absolutely must have a PC today, in which case you will have little choice but to do the upgrade yourself.
by Mike Acker October 6, 2009 4:27 AM PDT
tee hee, I'll order a confuser with Win-7 WHEN all my favorite apps are available in 64-bit editions and NOT BEFORE. Go Dell
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by Mike Acker October 6, 2009 4:34 AM PDT
tee hee, I'll order a confuser with Win-7 WHEN all my favorite apps are available in 64-bit editions and NOT BEFORE. Go Dell

a more serious question though is this: Is any computer system that lacks effective security worth anything at all? or is it just a liability?
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