August 17, 2009 10:17 AM PDT

Moonlight 2.0 goes beta

by Ina Fried
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The developer of the Moonlight software that enables Silverlight applications to run on Linux computers said on Monday that he is ready to start publicly beta testing an update to the software.

In a blog posting, Miguel de Icaza said the beta of Moonlight 2.0 is available from the gomono.com Web site.

Moonlight 2.0 is aimed at achieving compatibility with sites written for Silverlight 2.0, but incorporates the media pipeline and a few other features of Silverlight 3.0, de Icaza said. Microsoft released Silverlight 3.0 last month.

The beta is available both as source code and as a plug in for the Mozilla browser.

Work on Moonlight first started in 2007, with a beta of the original version released late last year and the final version released in February.

During her years at CNET News, Ina Fried has changed beats several times, changed genders once, and covered both of the Pirates of Silicon Valley. These days, most of her attention is focused on Microsoft. E-mail Ina.
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by BogusBasin August 17, 2009 11:14 AM PDT
So can I run Netflix on Ubuntu? Please?

Amen
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by goodspeed8701 August 17, 2009 12:23 PM PDT
Maybe you can. But who cares ubuntu is a waste of time. Only people who like to suffer can use it.

[CNET editors' note: Personal attack deleted]
by monkeyfun14 August 17, 2009 12:49 PM PDT
@goodspeed

No need to troll.
by SIGHUP August 17, 2009 12:59 PM PDT
@BogusBasin

No, you still have the problem of Netflix's DRM.
by goodspeed8701 August 17, 2009 1:03 PM PDT
monkeyfun I am not trolling. but its true. you go though a hard time looking for software that will give you what you need. making hacks for something to just work. Its not really for people who don't really have an advance knowlegde of computer.
by BogusBasin August 17, 2009 1:49 PM PDT
@SIGHUP

Thanks for the adult reply.

Amen
by stickfu August 17, 2009 4:29 PM PDT
Actually goodspeed there are a good many distros out there that takes LESS time to install than say XP, I recently Installed Linux Mint on an older machine my neighbour has, 40 mins, and it detected all the hardware. I find XP can take up to 1-2 hrs if you have to hunt for drivers.
by lennie22 August 17, 2009 8:30 PM PDT
stickfu, Win7 takes 25 to 30 mins to install and it detected all my hardware including camera, and it's fast and fully loaded
by tm_anon August 18, 2009 12:28 AM PDT
@goodspeed8701

Been using Ubuntu for 6 months, haven't suffered since I removed Windows from my machine.

@lennie22

Is that 30 minutes including all codecs to play every media file, flash installed and ready, AV and firewall (included in the kernel) and all instant messaging software?

With Linux Mint, that's what you get. While I prefer Ubuntu between the two, Linux Mint is a good and solid distro.
by stickfu August 18, 2009 3:53 AM PDT
@lennie

I`m doing an eval at my work, 4 Win 7 licenses, I can tell you with full certainty that it did`nt take 20-30 mins to install 7 on each of these machines, had to do a driver hunt too, was a bit of a pain considering 2 of these machines are 64bit and finding drivers was`nt easy.
by stickfu August 18, 2009 3:59 AM PDT
@tm

Personal distro choice aside, I agree, flash installed, codecs are installed, firewalled (Win7 defaults to firewall too) the only thing that I also needed was JAVA, easy find in the repo, VLC is a must (for any platform) oh and you can`t forget default install of open office. I find you can get a rig up and going in about 40 mins.
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by Lennron August 17, 2009 1:28 PM PDT
That pretty much describes every version of Linux. Fun to play with and generally has some useful tools. But don't kid yourself in thinking it's going to be compatible with everything. That's why they have to make tools like Moonlight.
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by BogusBasin August 17, 2009 1:50 PM PDT
I think you get what you pay for. Can't argue with free. I use my Ubuntu box for one specific purpose. It does it well.

Amen
by Lennron August 17, 2009 2:42 PM PDT
Oh, I'm a big fan of free! I have a laptop at home that's pretty old. I can get Suse and Red Hat to run pretty well on it. But Ubuntu is a bit sluggish. I look forward to putting it on a newer machine and seeing what all i can do with it.
by SIGHUP August 17, 2009 3:06 PM PDT
@Lennron

I think it's great that Linux is not compatible with DRM.
by stickfu August 17, 2009 4:06 PM PDT
@Lennron

You may want to have a look at Suse Studio, It let`s lets you pick whatever packages you want to go into a distro (it gets pretty detailed) it compensates for dependancies and creates an ISO to download. Pretty cool stuff, basically make your own distro or appliance (hint* make a Chrome OS like appliance)

http://susestudio.com/
by Lennron August 17, 2009 4:11 PM PDT
@SIGHUP

Good for you. What else do you think it's great that Linux isn't ccompatible with?
by Lennron August 17, 2009 4:15 PM PDT
@stickfu

Thanks. I'll look into it. Suse is probably my fave so far.
by SIGHUP August 17, 2009 6:09 PM PDT
@Lennron

winmodem (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Softmodem). Although they are probably supported nowadays.
by stickfu August 17, 2009 3:54 PM PDT
I personally don`t use or need Silverlight, Flash does the trick with me, I`m wondering how relevant will Flash and Silverlight will be when HTML5 becomes widely used.
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by monkeyfun14 August 17, 2009 5:03 PM PDT
Depends on how powerful HTML5 is.

At the moment Flash and Silverlight are the codecs of choice for HD streaming.
by stickfu August 17, 2009 5:17 PM PDT
I`m not a web guy but it does look good..

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HTML_5

It all depends if designers pick it up, if no one bites, Flash, Moonlight and Silverlight will still be here for a while, but yeah I think for HD streaming these plugins are still the best, right now.
by tm_anon August 18, 2009 12:31 AM PDT
Seen HTML5 used for streaming video, it did the job better than Flash or Silverlight and didn't require as much buffering time.

The only hang-up is whether or not the developers will use it.
by stickfu August 18, 2009 4:05 AM PDT
Sorry guys that I can`t find the page, but i tried 2 exact object renderings, 1 in flash the other in html 5, noticeable difference in CPU load (5% for html 5 vs 30% for flash), and those with an iphone or a touch, html 5 pages are viewable in mobile safari (maybe that`s the reason they never really pushed adobe too hard to port flash)
by slumbergod August 17, 2009 5:31 PM PDT
Flash has become the standard now and microsoft are too late into the game (and too lazy since they made no effort to cater for linux users). Ditto for Sun with JavaFX (you ignored linux and solaris!) Adobe's Flex is open source and almost everything is flash-based now. Developing a site in anything other than Flash would be crazy!
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by pentest August 18, 2009 7:25 AM PDT
Developing a site in Flash, Silverlight, or JavaFX is not crazy it is stupid.

These sorts of things are good when used logically and sparingly, but not for your entire website.
by Yelonde August 17, 2009 6:49 PM PDT
Another monopolistic move by microsoft to kick out Mac and linux users from their offering. Bravo microsoft. I hope silverlight dies. Microsoft may "support" silverlight on linux for now, but they could easily drop support for it, had they gained large enough market share. Noone could do anything about it, other than buying a copy of windows. BOOOOOOOOO!
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by lennie22 August 17, 2009 8:37 PM PDT
wow, it must be hard living in a world like yours.....it sure seems like it sucks there.
by hutchike August 18, 2009 6:34 AM PDT
Typo in article: gomono.com --> go-mono.com
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by jezzali August 18, 2009 8:22 AM PDT
No thanks.

My GNU/Linux system with its lovely KDE 4.3 desktop doesn't need Moonlight nor any other mendacious attempts at putting a tax on Linux from Microsoft sock puppets for not using Microsoft's operating system.
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by lennie22 August 18, 2009 8:29 AM PDT
yes, more power to you, don't let the MAN get you down...right on ma brotha
by stickfu August 18, 2009 8:42 AM PDT
I`m really enjoying my Sabayon running KDE 4.3, super eye-candy!, stable, fast
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