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July 13, 2009 6:57 PM PDT

Windows 7 not soup yet

by Ina Fried

Despite the arrival of a new leaked test version, Microsoft says it has not yet declared Windows 7 final.

In a blog posting late Monday, Windows blogger Brandon LeBlanc said the company still expects to finalize the code later this month.

The blog posting also confirmed that Microsoft plans to make the code available to those in its MSDN and TechNet developer programs within a few weeks after that point. Earlier on Monday, Microsoft said that businesses with volume license deals can get access to Windows 7 starting September 1.

Meanwhile, those who have pre-ordered the software or want to buy it on retail shelves or on a new PC will have to wait until its general availability on Oct. 22.

LeBlanc also cautioned against using code found on the Internet as some leaked versions have contained various types of malware.

During her years at CNET News, Ina Fried has changed beats several times, changed genders once, and covered both of the Pirates of Silicon Valley. These days, most of her attention is focused on Microsoft. E-mail Ina.


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by lennie22 July 13, 2009 7:41 PM PDT
so a lot of people think they have the real deal, but it's a semi-fake. I always try to warn people about downloading software from bt, at least do a scan with a good anti-virus software
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by yours_truly_michael July 14, 2009 10:42 AM PDT
Windows 7 is another release that's already proving to be disappointing before it's release.

The new user interface is even a rip off of the KDE project,

http://kde.org/announcements/announce-4.3-rc2.php

http://www.wahil.net/kde-43-early-preview
by lennie22 July 14, 2009 3:53 PM PDT
@yours_truly_michael:

I think you mean KDE is a drect rip of windows UI: the task bar, start button functionality, the notification area, aero, win7 super bar. the file manager lists the "file, edit, view, tools, help" the same way windows does and they copied the same command the access them from the keyboard. I can list a whole slew of other things that kde took from windows UI elements but it makes no sense listing all of that crap. if msft has a patent on their super taskbar, then kde could get in trouble there if msft wants to press.

its the same way I read online where some guy was saying that after google talked about chrome OS microsoft tried to counter with gazelle. but the funny thing is msft released a white paper on gazelle way before google said anything about chrome os, they even made a gazelle prototype while google doesn't even have as much as a prototype yet.

I'm not against you or kde, but what you said just seems out of line. and I don't even know how you can say winodws 7 is a disappointment before it's released when so much people want it.
by SIGHUP July 13, 2009 8:45 PM PDT
I am not convinced the leaks are accidental. Perhaps Microsoft should accidentally leak the hash for each build of the ISO so that we do not have to worry about the ISO containing malware. Other than copying over the crappy Vista start menu, it's a great OS from what I have seen.
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by lennie22 July 13, 2009 8:56 PM PDT
yeah, they should do that. that would help out a lot
by mrvage July 13, 2009 9:00 PM PDT
Why don't they just officially release checksums for each build that they know is leaked or thought to be leaked so that they can help keep people free of malware?

I mean its already out there anyway. No sense ignoring that fact if it will just lead to trouble for people.
by bananaphonerules July 13, 2009 10:35 PM PDT
@mrvage

Because the people who generaly will get into trouble don't know what a checksum is from their elbow.
Anyway: its not a Microsoft release, so why should they support a distribution method thats not official?
by Dandy55 July 14, 2009 12:06 PM PDT
@bananaphonerules

Actually, downloading leaked copies is not "unofficial distribution method" - official name for this "unofficial method" is "piracy"...
by BogusBasin July 13, 2009 8:51 PM PDT
More garbage from the company that has never had their own original idea and wouldn't know style if it slapped them in the face.
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by jessiethe3rd July 13, 2009 8:54 PM PDT
More trolling from someone who believes it's an original idea to post garbage.
by monkeyfun14 July 13, 2009 9:04 PM PDT
Bogus how much Apple pay you for trolling?
by Vegaman_Dan July 13, 2009 10:18 PM PDT
@BogusBasin:

I hear you, but I can't help but feel that you're hodling back how you really feel. Perhaps if you could elaborate?
by NewsReader_ July 13, 2009 10:22 PM PDT
Bogus,

No soup for you!
by Magallanes July 14, 2009 7:03 AM PDT
lol Soup Nazi.
by Renegade Knight July 14, 2009 7:31 AM PDT
Speaking of orginal ideas, why the heck did you borrow the name of a ski resort for your name?
by BogusBasin July 14, 2009 8:17 AM PDT
Anyone ever notice how monkeyfun is constantly bringing up Apple?
by pithenumber July 14, 2009 11:24 AM PDT
Anyone ever notice how bogusbasin is constantly bringing up ms?
by BogusBasin July 14, 2009 11:50 AM PDT
@pithenumber

Uh, have you looked at the title of this article? I didn't bring up MS. I commented on an article about MS. Genious. Go edit your registry or something.
by Nick Westgate July 13, 2009 9:13 PM PDT
Ina, why are you talking about code? Code is synonymous with source code.

And no-one mentioned in your article is getting the source code for Windows 7

Cheers,
Nick.
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by lennie22 July 13, 2009 9:22 PM PDT
actually, code can reffer to source code or compiled code, it works either way.
by shellcodes_coder July 14, 2009 1:13 AM PDT
Windows 7 RC is awesome, can't wait for RTM
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by Ted Miller July 14, 2009 5:07 AM PDT
Slurp, Slurp lick lick lick slurp slurp... are your boots clean enough oh great microsoft... no? thats great! I'll lick them some more... slurp slurp slurpitty slurp....
by bluemist9999 July 14, 2009 6:58 AM PDT
I wasn't a big fan of Vista----when I had XP and Vista on dual boot, I rarely if ever booted Vista, since it was much more bloated, and computer sleeping didn't work too well, resulting in reboots of my desktop PC.

In Windows 7, sleep is flawless (for me at least) and the system is responsive, so I use the RC as my primary OS and haven't seen any issues with it yet. The only thing that doesn't work to date is a very old PC game (Dungeon Keeper).
by Magallanes July 14, 2009 7:03 AM PDT
but dungeon keeper was faulty since the first release.
by lennie22 July 14, 2009 3:58 PM PDT
since the RC was released, I think I can count the amount of times I restarted my laptop on one hand, it's either in sleep or hybernate. and I it's all good.
by Methuss July 14, 2009 7:46 AM PDT
Look there is an easy way to determine if a build is RTM. Install it. If the "Windows 7 Evaluation Copy. Build 7[xxx]" is not visible and it has no expiration date, then it is the RTM.

This is not hard people. The RTM won't be booby-trapped with an end date and will have no "beta" markings. Duh.
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by techman21 July 14, 2009 9:27 AM PDT
Ah, but will it activate?
by Methuss July 14, 2009 12:01 PM PDT
techman21,

If you have a legit key, yes. Once the RTM is released it will be available to Registered Microsoft Partners through MSDN and the MAPS programs. Those people will be getting it before Volume License businesses so they can have time to sell it up and become familiar with it. They get their multiple activation keys through the program so it is reasonable to assume the activation servers will be up and accepting those keys as soon as they are released to the Partner Program members.
by Methuss July 14, 2009 7:03 PM PDT
This build 7600 is VERY close to RTM.

It has no "Evaluation copy. Build [...]" notice embedded in the desktop and appears to have no time limit.

But, it is NOT the RTM because the installer only allows the installation of Ultimate. Until it has all the package install options, it isn't RTM.
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