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June 24, 2009 10:13 AM PDT

Microsoft tries to make Windows 7 easier to open

by Ina Fried

Microsoft is trying to make Windows 7 easier than Windows Vista on many levels--right down to the box it comes in.

Microsoft aims to make Windows 7 easier to use, even when it comes to getting the disc out of the box.

(Credit: Microsoft)

One of the many criticisms of Windows Vista was the incredibly complex packaging that Microsoft used for both Vista and Office 2007. In an effort to prevent theft and piracy, Microsoft created boxes that required their own set of instructions to open.

In a blog posting on Wednesday, Microsoft said it will use a package that is shaped similarly to the Vista one. However, the box will open more like a standard DVD case.

The case, which will be recyclable, will contain just the disc and a getting started guide. Overall, Microsoft said it reduced the packaging weight by 37 percent.

Microsoft plans to start selling Windows 7 on October 22, although pre-sales of the product as well as a free upgrade program for new PC buyers are expected to both kick off on Friday.

During her years at CNET News, Ina Fried has changed beats several times, changed genders once, and covered both of the Pirates of Silicon Valley. These days, most of her attention is focused on Microsoft. E-mail Ina.


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by Orion Blastar June 24, 2009 10:29 AM PDT
Easier to open is alright by me. If I buy software I want to be able to open it, and not have it be some "Chinese Puzzlebox" that takes a challenge to open up.

I am still stuck with Windows XP Pro until ReactOS is finished being developed. http://www.reactos.org for more info. ReactOS is an open source alternative to Windows that runs Windows code. Why won't CNet cover it?

Windows 7.0 Pro and above claim to have a downloadable Windows XP virtual machine, that might help, but it won't run 100% of the Windows legacy software.
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by monkeyfun14 June 24, 2009 10:37 AM PDT
I doubt ReactOS will run all windows programs will probably be just as limited as Wine.

Its probably using code from old Windows OS's that have went public domain. Windows 95/98

Because if its using technologies from XP and up they can expect lawsuits. O-o

Cnet probably doesn't cover it because no one knows about it and its pretty bad eyesore no offense.
by Mr. Dee June 24, 2009 10:59 AM PDT
Sorry, you are confused and have never used Windows 7 with Windows Virtual XP. Its full Windows XP that runs the same legacy applications as a standalone copy of Windows XP today. If you XP does work, you can use another version of Windows that's suitable. The great thing about Virtual XP is how seamless it integrates with the Windows 7 desktop. You can run legacy apps side by side with Windows apps without having to interact with the OS layer. Its not a complete solution, but I believe it will work quite well for many environments. I have even used it run some old apps such as Hall Mark Card Studio 1.0, Printshop 5.0 and PhotoDraw 2000 v2.
by dhavleak June 24, 2009 4:26 PM PDT
@ Orion Blaster:

Why won't CNet cover ReactOS you ask?

Well, it's a terribly flawed idea. Their goals are to create an OS based on the design of Windows XP/2003 and maintain binary compatibility with these OSes.

That goal itself is flawed. They're targeting a design that was released 6 years ago now (very long ago, in the software world). They are still in the alpha stage (v0.3.9). By the time they have anything even close to usable, we will probably be using Windows 8 or later (or maybe OS-X or Linux might have achieved world domination or at the very least made the OS race a 2 or 3 horse race). The world is not standing still waiting for ReactOS to recreate a release that's 6-years old and counting.
by dbargen June 24, 2009 10:34 AM PDT
As if ease-of-opening was the deciding factor on whether or not you'd buy another VIsta...

How again is this news?
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by Vegaman_Dan June 24, 2009 10:37 AM PDT
Just to be clear here, the story is about the packaging for Windows 7, not Vista.
by monkeyfun14 June 24, 2009 10:40 AM PDT
Another Vista? Really? Because it uses a transparent UI it must be another Vista.

But its perfectly okay that Apple does it right?
by Mr. Dee June 24, 2009 11:00 AM PDT
Yes, Windows 7 is an upgrade to Windows Vista. Yes, it is based on Windows Vista/Server 2008 technology. That's a good thing, it means the investment over 200 million users have made in that version of Windows will be brought forward in terms of application and hardware compatibility.

Look at OS X, 10.1, 10.2, 10.3, 10.4, 10.5, 10.6. Those are all updates, not upgrades. In fact, OS X users have been paying for fixes from versions 10.1 to 10.3. You have to admit, OS X didn't get stable until 10.4.

As for Linux, thats a kernel, and every distro based on it is just using a minor update to the kernel. Are there any major differences between Ubuntu 8.04 using kernel 2.26 to Ubuntu 9.04 using kernel 2.27? Are there any major differences that justify upgrading from even 8.04 to 9.04?

You should download the Windows 7 RC before jumping to a conclusion about product you obviously have not used. Features such as Jump List, Improvements to the Start Menu, Aero Snaps, Aero Shake, Aero Peek, Windows Touch, interactive Thumbnail previews, Improved Search features such as Input, Search Federation, AppLocker, BitLocker To Go, Direct Connect, Network Backup, Remote App, Firewall Profiles, Location Awareness, HomeGroups, Media Streaming, Play To, Internet TV, Sticky Notes with Ink support, Biometrics. Along with that, improved user experience in areas such as Personalization, Windows Update, performance - On demand loading of devices and services, efficient utilization of resources such as spinning up a DVD or a NIC, Battery performance allowing efficient use based environment lighting, improved multi-monitor support, DirectX 11, improved Windows applications such as Paint, WordPad...just the tip of the iceberg. Oh, lets not forget about freebies such as Windows Virtual XP.

Yeah, Windows 7 is just Vista with some problems fixed. Don't make yourself look this stupid next time.
by yourfault1 June 24, 2009 11:04 AM PDT
I think dbargen wasn't saying Windows 7 is just another Vista. At least that's not how I read it.
I was thinking dbargen meant "not many decisions on buying Vista were based on the packaging. For example, no one bought Vista, then decided not to buy it again because the packaging was so bad."

Regardless, I am someone who bought Vista Ultimate (although at a sharp discount through a resource) and I was disappointed. I even upgraded my Video Card, and it was still just meh. I've since upgraded to the Windows 7 Beta (need to install RC before 6/30...) and really love it (esp compared to Vista).

Looking forward to the Windows 7 release, and think that the fact that the packaging won't require a chain-saw is not just news, it's good news!!
by michael_j_x June 24, 2009 11:28 AM PDT
@ Mr.Dee
+1
Really clever to save this comment and paste it everytime someone posts the " 7 is another Vista" remark. You should probably write a script and pre-emptivily post it in any article with the word "Windows" is in the title.
by dhavleak June 24, 2009 4:37 PM PDT
@ Mr. Dee,

+1 for an insightful comment. If I had a nickel for every dumb "another Vista" comment, I'd be able to retire by now.
by SlimGem June 24, 2009 6:55 PM PDT
@ Mr. Dee,

"You have to admit, OS X didn't get stable until 10.4."

I have to disagree with that statement. I will admit that OS X was wonky up to 10.2, in fact I usually booted into OS 9 due to some lousy peripherals support. But with 10.3 Panther they got their act together. I'm still running it on one of my Macs and it performs just fine. I'll eventually replace it with 10.4 Tiger, but there's no hurry.
by Vegaman_Dan June 24, 2009 10:38 AM PDT
Not sure this is really 'news'. It's a footnote at best.
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by Renegade Knight June 24, 2009 10:51 AM PDT
It fits the MO of Ina. They follow all things MS even if it's just a foot note.
by monkeyfun14 June 24, 2009 10:54 AM PDT
This is how Cnet news works.

Report on absolutely everything from total code reworks to a one day delay on a ship date.

If nothing is there to report start a opinion topic on Apple vs Microsoft topic to get flamewars and hits started.
by Mr. Dee June 24, 2009 11:01 AM PDT
This was posted on the Windows Team blog in addition to many retweets on Twitter. So it makes it worthy news. This is the first thing many upgraders will interact with when they get Windows 7.
by magusat999 June 24, 2009 10:57 AM PDT
They should make it easier to install - I still cannot install it (Windows 7 RC1) on the PC that I have Windows 7 Beta installed already - doesn't accept my Rosewill ide addon card drivers that the Beta had no problems with.
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by ramikh81 June 24, 2009 10:59 AM PDT
I afraid this is the only enhancement about Windows 7
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by ramikh81 June 24, 2009 11:01 AM PDT
I afraid this is the only enhancement about Windows 7
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by monkeyfun14 June 24, 2009 11:03 AM PDT
Nah I got a nice long list for you.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Features_new_to_Windows_7
by monkeyfun14 June 24, 2009 11:05 AM PDT
Oh heres your features you get in Snow Leopard.

A whopping 7 most of which that will offer no benefit to normal consumers you should be proud.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mac_OS_X_v10.6
by One-Eared Gundark June 24, 2009 11:10 AM PDT
Why not just put the disc in a cardboard sleeve? Windows doesn't need the shelf presence in the retail stores. That is only really needed for items that shoppers compare or impulse buy. I don't think either one of those describes an OS purchase.

Man...cut me a check Microsoft! I just saved you tons of money on distribution costs!
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by dzankizakon June 24, 2009 11:21 AM PDT
This is good news. Not knowing in advance how hard Vista packaging is for opening, I managed to bend and break the packaging. After I ravaged it like a maniac and broke it into a hundred pieces, I then noticed a small opening instruction thing on it. Too late, Rambo.

I remember wondering how on earth could they've made packaging so complex. This was a week after I bought a MacBook, which, needless to say, even an imbecile can open in a second without any instruction.

Maybe they should add a manual to Vista packaging - "How to Open Vista Packaging Without Smashing It Against the Wall".
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by Renegade Knight June 24, 2009 11:52 AM PDT
I stopped just short on the million pieces on the Vista I had bought. As for the Mac, the lack of a locking lid had me flummoxed for a bit. Then I realized "Oh, naurally Mac wouldn't lock shut, that would get in the way of the design aesthetic and make too much pratical sence.

So far Apple is more than happy to trade form over function. Too bad. Here at least MS learned.
by ppgreat June 24, 2009 11:26 AM PDT
I await the first YouTube video on this.
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by vasobre June 25, 2009 1:32 AM PDT
hahahha.. now THAT will be the news I'd like to see!! :))
by The_happy_switcher June 24, 2009 11:44 AM PDT
At Microsoft 'complexity and confusion' are our middle name.
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by empirestatebuddy June 24, 2009 11:51 AM PDT
Good idea. That other packaging was like trying to open a Rubik's cube. lol
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by shycelticwitch June 24, 2009 12:25 PM PDT
I find it highly amusing that the package is more secure than the software!!!

ROFLMAO!!!!!!!
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by monkeyfun14 June 24, 2009 4:11 PM PDT
Its fine you find your comment humorous no one else does though.
by sanjayb June 27, 2009 10:13 AM PDT
I thought it was pretty funny!! :-)
by fafafooey June 24, 2009 12:50 PM PDT
Computer users have become such whiny beeotches... Back in the day when I started out, we were pretty tough now that I look back at it - we were able to handle all kinds of stuff. Now users cry about opening a stinking box....
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by Lerianis3 June 24, 2009 1:52 PM PDT
Huh? The Office 2007 box wasn't that 'hard' to open once you realized that it had OODLES of tape all over the sides of the box that you had to remove and had to 'squeeze' the tabs in order to open it.
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by vamman June 25, 2009 7:16 AM PDT
Look at all these Mac PhanBoys.
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