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June 24, 2009 10:00 AM PDT

Mundie on Microsoft's 'Hohm' energy push

by Ina Fried

Microsoft's move into the energy monitoring business may sound like a stretch, but to Craig Mundie, it's one of several natural new businesses for the software maker.

Mundie, Microsoft's chief research and strategy officer, said the company has its eye on any area that can be helped by technology and in which society is spending a lot of money and not seeing the return it would like.

Microsoft's Hohm service lets users enter information about their home and energy use to get tips on cutting their gas and electric bills.

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Energy consumption specifically, and environmental issues more broadly, were natural areas for the company to delve into, he said, and follow Microsoft's moves into other thorny challenges such as education and health care. On Wednesday, Microsoft is officially announcing Hohm, a free service that households can use to monitor their household energy use and get tips on how they can cut their gas and electric bills.

Mundie said Microsoft started with the residential market because it accounts for $160 billion of the $365 billion that the U.S. spends on electricity use.

"The big industrial guys have already entered into special contracts," Mundie said, noting that businesses often have done energy audits and agreed to cut their use in exchange for lower rates. "To some extent, they don't need it so much."

Hohm, which was code-named Niagara, is the culmination of about two years of work in the area, Mundie said. It's also one of the first commercial services to launch running on Windows Azure, the cloud-based operating system that Microsoft introduced last year.

One of the big questions though, is whether the issue is that people don't know what is using energy in their home, or if they just don't care.

"I don't think anybody can tell," Mundie said. "So you give it a try."

But Gartner analyst Martin Reynolds notes that we have seen signs that apathy rather than ignorance may be the biggest hurdle when it comes to cutting energy consumption. Reynolds noted that even when gas prices tripled, most Americans opted to pay more rather than to dramatically change their energy use.

That same attitude will be a challenge in the home, Reynolds said, noting that he gets a chilly reception when he suggests a family member put on a sweater rather than turn on the heat.

For its part, Microsoft is betting there are enough people who are focused either on their energy consumption or their bills to make the investment pay off.

While the business model isn't totally clear, Mundie said there is potentially money to be made both from advertising as well as from connecting consumers to products and services that might cut their energy use.

There are other reasons Microsoft may be interested in energy, including the fact that its chief nemesis, Google, has also made a move in the arena.

The big difference in approach, Microsoft said, is that unlike services from other big companies and start-ups, Hohm works without needing any sort of special smart plugs or other gear, though it can work with such products as well.

"We didn't want to start with something predicated on some major infrastructural change," Mundie said. Microsoft is partnering with utilities so that consumers can get their energy use data directly imported into Hohm, but for those whose provider isn't one of the early partners, Mundie said consumers can enter information from their bill.

Hohm works by asking people a series of questions about their home and energy use. Consumers can enter as little as their zip code. But the more information a consumer gives, the more detailed the recommendations.

"You can answer one question or a hundred questions," Mundie said.

To hear more from Mundie, check out our video interview above.

During her years at CNET News, Ina Fried has changed beats several times, changed genders once, and covered both of the Pirates of Silicon Valley. These days, most of her attention is focused on Microsoft. E-mail Ina.
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by cowatson June 24, 2009 10:45 AM PDT
Why no link the the site within the commentary?
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by ncalishome June 24, 2009 10:57 AM PDT
I read about www.wattvision.com a little while back... The main difference seems to be that wattvision requires putting a gizmo on your meter, while this new thing from MS gets data from the power company. Seems to me a gizmo on your meter would be much more powerful, as supposedly you could turn off a light in your house and see that change of usage in realtime on your computer. That said, this MS deal is easier to get started with and likely will have better adoption -- though perhaps providing less valuable data? /shrug

In any event, I'm all for any new tech that will help people be aware of their power usage so they can conserve better.
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by mbenedict June 24, 2009 2:03 PM PDT
Power companies are also deploying "smart meters" to homes. Microsoft partnering with them is the right way to go... detailed data can be automatically imported from homes with smart meters, while summary data is still available for homes without them (either via summary download, or by manual input from the bill.)
by dhavleak June 24, 2009 4:14 PM PDT
This is cool stuff.

I believe that people genuinely do care about our planet and about being green and energy efficient. The trouble is that it's really hard to get good information (what's recyclable, what has a smaller carbon footprint, what appliance consumes less energy, etc. etc.).

In absense of good data, people don't have much to act on -- just a lot of hubris in the news about different ways to be green, but no clear path to follow without doing a PhD in the matter yourself. So anything like this that helps people easily understand things (such as where they could be consuming less power) is an instant win.
by PeggyInToronto June 24, 2009 11:05 AM PDT
In our experience, people do care about how much energy they use, both because it's expensive and because of the environmental impact (sometimes one more than the other). Tools like Hohm promises to be, that make monitoring usage easier, are key to changing behavior. One of the most promising aspects of this development is that Hohm takes into account more than electricity, allowing homeowners to see their usage as whole. At first, it appeared that Hohm was going to compete directly with Google PowerMeter. That seems less clear now - they are very different. My colleague put together a comparison that's helpful: http://www.energycircle.com/blog/category/news-home-energy/
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by nonicks June 24, 2009 11:16 AM PDT
why there is no LINK to HOHM?

What kind of story this is ..which doesn't provide link to the OBJECTIVE but to all other nuisance?

LAME.................
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by DosEquisXX June 24, 2009 11:47 AM PDT
http://mshohm.orcsweb.com/
by SlimGem June 24, 2009 7:06 PM PDT
Ah, DosEquisXX ; informative and thirst quenching!
by Renegade Knight June 24, 2009 11:56 AM PDT
"But Gartner analyst Martin Reynolds notes that we have seen signs that apathy rather than ignorance may be the biggest hurdle when it comes to cutting energy consumption"

I'd say it's design that's the biggest hurdle. If things came with two power buttons. "Standbuy" and "Off" where off was zero consumption and standby was what we confuse off for now... That would be a nice start.

The power company sells (or gives away) gizmo's that can have a vending machine use less power. Why not just design that into the machine?
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by mbenedict June 24, 2009 2:00 PM PDT
Because there are millions of older machines already in existence. You can't just replace all of them with brand new ones just to add this functionality... the cost to do so would overwhelm any benefit.
by brian.lee June 24, 2009 8:38 PM PDT
"Research chief Craig Mundie tells why Microsoft wants to help you monitor your energy us"

Simple because Google is doing it too, and what Google does we do as well... because we don't have any original ideas.
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by monkeyfun14 June 24, 2009 9:11 PM PDT
Oh no not competition why would we want to make a company have to work harder to improve their product.

I don't give a damn how many people are doing something similar it just adds more options to the table.
by kojacked June 24, 2009 10:25 PM PDT
No! No! No! There can be only ONE of everything! All MySpace users must move over to FaceBook at once and MySpace must shut down immediatly!

Oh wait...
by Police_States_of_America June 28, 2009 12:13 PM PDT
i'd rather have my energy be dependent on a more stable operating system.
by Spanwite June 28, 2009 5:56 AM PDT
X Box360 129Watt, it's like running a 2nd Fridge, isn't?
PST150Watt,
Wii 16Watt!
And Vista does need a high powered Computer to run smoothly.

It's good Businesses, sell the cause, sell the cure!
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by haroldbrown2009 June 29, 2009 6:51 AM PDT
It appeared that was going to compete directly with Google PowerMeter. That seems less clear now - they are very different. My colleague put together a comparison that's helpful.

<a href="http://www.housemdepisodes.tv">house episodes</a>
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by haroldbrown2009 June 29, 2009 6:52 AM PDT
It appeared that was going to compete directly with Google PowerMeter. That seems less clear now - they are very different. My colleague put together a comparison that's helpful.

http://housemdepisodes.tv/aboutme/index.html
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by haroldbrown2009 June 29, 2009 6:52 AM PDT
It appeared that was going to compete directly with Google PowerMeter. That seems less clear now - they are very different. My colleague put together a comparison that's helpful.

[url=http://www.housemdepisodes.tv]house episodes[/url]
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by haroldbrown2009 June 29, 2009 6:53 AM PDT
It appeared that was going to compete directly with Google PowerMeter. That seems less clear now - they are very different. My colleague put together a comparison that's helpful.

<a href="http://www.housemdepisodes.tv">house episodes</a>
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by haroldbrown2009 June 29, 2009 6:54 AM PDT
well post

<a href="http://www.housemdepisodes.tv">house episodes</a>
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by open4energy August 12, 2009 2:17 PM PDT
We are helping find participants for an on-line survey of home energy monitors. There is a list of qualifying devices, you need to be using one of them.

The study ends August 30 2009, is offering a $10.00 Starbucks card for completed surveys. We vouch for the fact that there is no "trickery" with this request.

http://www.open4energy.com/forum/home/dev/home_energy_monitoring_device_survey_0907291255
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