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June 9, 2009 9:26 AM PDT

Microsoft gets Bing bump, ComScore says

by Ina Fried
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One of the most visible features of Bing is the striking photo that adorns its home page and changes each day.

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Microsoft is getting a bit of a Bing-related bump, according to some early figures from market researcher ComScore.

According to ComScore, Microsoft upped its search share to 11.1 percent last week, as compared to 9.1 percent the prior week. Some of that gain came from the fact that more people were using Microsoft.

Microsoft's engine had 15.5 percent daily penetration, as opposed to 13.8 percent in the prior week.

(Credit: ComScore)

Earlier data also showed Microsoft off to a solid start with its revamped search engine. Of course, the real issue is whether Microsoft can make the gains stick over time. The software maker has seen its market share tip up over time, only to again drop to single digits.

Microsoft has said it would like to pick up at least a couple points of market share over the next year. One might think that the company should expect more, given it has not only poured huge resources into the technology, but is also spending tens of millions of dollars in both a big advertising push and deals to nab the default search engine position on new PCs.

So far, Bing is off to a good start, said ComScore Senior Vice President Mike Hurt.

"These initial data suggest that Microsoft Bing has generated early interest, resulting in a spike in search engagement and an immediate term improvement to Microsoft's position in the search market," Hurt said in a statement. "So far it appears that the lifts in searcher penetration and engagement have held relatively steady throughout the five-day period."

But Hurt agreed that only time will tell whether it is a blip or a true gain. "The ultimate performance of Bing depends on the extent to which it generates more trial through its extensive launch campaign and whether it retains those trial users."

Bing went live last week after being shown off at D: All Things Digital by CEO Steve Ballmer.

Microsoft plans to continue its ad push, including the TV spots, with the current campaign eventually yielding to commercials that focus more specifically on the areas where Bing hopes to differentiate itself--tasks such as travel and product search.

Update 11:20 a.m.: Bing has managed to grab some attention inside Google. Speaking at a financial conference on Tuesday, Google CFO Patrick Pichette said the company is in the process of analyzing it. "I have a review tomorrow on it with the executive committee," Pichette said, according to Marketwatch.

During her years at CNET News, Ina Fried has changed beats several times, changed genders once, and covered both of the Pirates of Silicon Valley. These days, most of her attention is focused on Microsoft. E-mail Ina.
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by homercles82 June 9, 2009 9:53 AM PDT
I like Bing except the live video preview which will stream porn. Because of that our work filter is blocking it.
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by BogusBasin June 9, 2009 11:59 AM PDT
So let's say Bing is great. And everyone switches to it. When it becomes the dominant search engine, is there any doubt that Microsoft would pull some shady maneuvers like giving priority to their own products in the search results? Or giving their partners higher results based on their decision not to sell machines with competing software on them? I for one, will never trust MS and I will never use Bing. If you feel otherwise, Bing away!
by Renegade Knight June 9, 2009 12:15 PM PDT
@BogusBasin

If they wanted to retain a dominant position they would not skew the results. Advertise their own stuff? Sure. Messing with search results to skew search behavior...a good way to drive everone back to where they came from.
by BogusBasin June 9, 2009 12:43 PM PDT
@Renegade Knight

Just as their behavior in computer operating systems is driving everyone to alternatives.
by Mark_Anderson June 9, 2009 1:24 PM PDT
@Bogus

Everyone?

*Looks at OS stats*

Nope. Seems not.

And anyway, are you suggesting that Google having a monopoly on the search market would be a good thing? Think before you answer, there may be questions after! :)
by BogusBasin June 9, 2009 1:59 PM PDT
@Mark_Anderson

Maybe you should look at those OS stats again son. MS still holds a dominant position. But they have been losing ground. And I never mentioned Google. You did.
by Seaspray0 June 9, 2009 3:33 PM PDT
@BogusBasin. We'll chalk it down to your statement "I for one, will never trust MS". No, you never will, and your posts make that perfectly clear. I don't care if you never use anything microsoft. That's your choice. You have my approval to not trust or use anything microsoft. Now stop annoying everyone with your stupid personal conspiracy theories.
by beldon2 June 9, 2009 9:57 AM PDT
I was one of those who started using Bing. MS loaded the dumb thing into my computer when my back was turned, so to speak. I didn't want it and still don't. Verizon is coming out with a new face and there is always FireFox when I get fed up with that rotten cherry.
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by Seaspray0 June 9, 2009 3:36 PM PDT
If you are using IE7 or above, then click the down arrow next to the magnifying glass in the upper right corner. Select "change search defaults." Wow, that's easy to do!
by joetesta70 June 9, 2009 10:04 AM PDT
Bing is pretty good - the searches are a lot more relevant than Live Search which made me stick with Google int the past.

It's amazing that Google just isn't innovating at all. Their search experience is 10 years old and folks like Ask who tried to pusht eh envelope with more relevance for some reason just didn't make it.

If Google keeps it up it's gonna go the way of GM some day. There's nothing keeping me using it and users are fickle/trendy.
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by manojlds June 9, 2009 10:34 AM PDT
Google not innovating is a pretty unfair comment. They have always tried new things and thats what has kept me, and others, returning to Google. Bing is something new and looks promising, but has a whole lot way to go. Hope it does get there though.
by Renegade Knight June 9, 2009 12:16 PM PDT
So far Google works. Why improve what's not broke? Wheels are still round. The only viable wheel alternates are skids and tracks. Those are better in limited applications but not in general.
by dhavleak June 9, 2009 1:08 PM PDT
That's extremely faulty logic Renegade Knight.

Are you suggesting the wheels used on a car today resemble the wheels used by cavemen? So much science and technology has gone into improving them -- off the top of my head I can think of stuff like vulcanization of rubber, the different chemicals that must go into making the tire with the best grip and strenght, the concept of steel radials (a steel belt inside the rubber to add strength to it), run-flats, steel wheels followed by alloy wheels, wheel balancing down to the milligram, and so on and so forth. What if two centuries ago everybody just threw their hands up and said "oh, it's just a wheel -- let's not improve what's not broken"???

In other words -- you can't imagine what the future of search might look like. That's okay because that's not your job. But that doesn't mean that other people don't have vision and ideas that they would like to realize in this space.

Two easy examples where Bing clearly improves on Google:
1. The previews on the right (move your mouse cursor to the right column of the search results) -- usually very relevant information in it, often stuff that will save you a click/page-load or more by getting you directly to the part of the site you needed.
2. Travel search. For example, do a search on "flights from detroit to miami". Check out the fare prediction, data on key price points in the last 30 days, etc. Click on the fare prediction and drill down on your exact dates. Note how even low cost carriers prices are included. Huge time saver.

Competition in this space is nothing but good for us. Why would you want to pass on that benefit just because you don't like MS?
by Seaspray0 June 9, 2009 3:38 PM PDT
Why choose just one? Use both if you like. There's no rule that says you can't use both.
by peterpulmonary June 9, 2009 10:16 AM PDT
i like bing

i also used live search. the accelerators are very handy. find an address or person, and you can map it or so a search on that term immediately with 2 clicks.

there is no actual reason keeping people using google. that could change rapidly
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by myles taylor June 9, 2009 10:23 AM PDT
I think it's just a blip. All these people are trying out the new search engine. It's not compelling enough to get people to break their Google addiction. Search is too simple and people are too happy with it the way it is now.

The biggest problem with the Bing Ads were they are confusing. I watched them and it seems like they are focused on convincing people that they are unhappy with search and that Bing is better.

I could be wrong and I'm actually anxious to see, but I think this is another failed attempt by Microsoft to break into this market.
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by goodspeed8701 June 9, 2009 12:43 PM PDT
No microsoft did not fail. Except for you that failed to understand the ads.
by thelemurking June 9, 2009 10:24 AM PDT
I love the Bing commercial and thought that it's one of the best commercials that Microsoft has ever done.

It's going to take a lot to pull me away from google, but I did install bing into Firefox's search providers list...
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by sanjayb June 11, 2009 9:56 AM PDT
I guess these ads only play in the US. I haven't seen any bing ads in Canada.
by GraphiteCube June 9, 2009 10:27 AM PDT
I have been using Live Search & Bing for months, I would say it works and works well.

I can search for the games I want to play, I can search for troubleshooting guidelines when I help my friends to fix their computer. Sometimes I cannot search for what I expect - But I couldn't get what I expect from Google too, so there were problems with my keywords.

However, I strongly recommend Microsoft to make ALL search options available to ALL countries. Last time I have checked HK and US version of Bing, HK version is missing the video searching.
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by cosuna June 9, 2009 11:17 AM PDT
I agree with @GraphiteCube. I'm in Mexico and my bing experience is sub par with search results below Google. I guess they are feeding them from old Live Search.

Yesterday, I logged to my company's VPN (which is in the US) and the results were amazing and incredible different.

If I had the option, I would test drive Bing for a while, but seems they are afraid to open the valve to all the traffic.

As for the comment that Google's complacent... I don't think so... It's just a matter of not touching the Cash Cow, since it works. Look what happened at Microsoft when they touched Windows. Vista appeared, and people rallied for XP to return, and it did, albeit inside a virtual machine in Windows 7. Reminds me of the classic Coca-Cola vs. New Coke debate. Who won? Who cares, now we have choice... although abroad we only get plain old New Coke... guess nobody won that battle.
by seven7dust June 9, 2009 10:33 AM PDT
must be the IE6 bug !
I wonder if we'll see another class action suit of Ms abusing it's monopoly yet again !
either way Bing is impressive IMO , but no way ccan it compete with either google or yahoo !
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by monkeyfun14 June 9, 2009 7:48 PM PDT
And Apple abuses its mp3 player monopoly by pushing quicktime on you.
by manojlds June 9, 2009 10:40 AM PDT
I think Bing and Google can be used in a complementary manner. If one doesnt find the answer you are looking for, go for the other. I have already seen cases where Bing gives me what I was looking for, but Google couldnt. There were, of course, many cases where Google gave me things that Bing wouldnt even know about. Google is sitting pretty on the top at the moment, but its always better to use all the help we can get. For those who aint got the time to search in two SEs, stick with Google.
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by LuvThatCO2 June 9, 2009 10:55 AM PDT
I've been using it nearly exclusively for the past week or so, and so far so good. It's the only search engine to actually match google's responsiveness - which was what kept me with google all these years. Live search, Yahoo, Ask, were always too slow for me. That may sound silly, but I practically live in search engines given all the research I do, and anything short of instantaneous is too slow.

The only thing I had to do with Bing though was remove the photo on the main page. I found that it hid the search box a bit too much. But Bing does let you remove it (see the help for Bing on how).
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by gwatson47 June 9, 2009 11:05 AM PDT
I own a small popular non-commercial website used for entertainment. I found that if I search for the name of the website(not the same as the web address) in Google and Yahoo, it returns as site #1. When I search for it in Bing, I get nothing and results that have nothing to do with the search terms and my website isn't even in the top 100 results. I find this horrible, I don't care if I'm site number 1, I just want people searching for my website to be able to find it.
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by BIGELLOW June 9, 2009 3:04 PM PDT
I think that's the problem that most people misunderstand. While Bing may give the consumers what they want, it may let the website operators down greatly. Earlier in the beginnings of the web, the information was limited, so the index size was important. Now that there is tons of information on the Internet, whole sites can be missing and many users wouldn't really notice... they'll still find the answers they are looking for, but just at different places. When Microsoft starts playing this type of game of favorites (like they did in the PC market,) the consumers ultimately lose... as well as those looking to earn money using the Internet.
by massfat June 10, 2009 2:33 PM PDT
Bing only index 5% of the web so far. Google indexed way more. I think you should wait for awhile before Bing can index your site and all the links to your site.
Think about when you first started your site. How long did it take Google to index it? Probably not instantly or even weeks. But even then, Google was already indexing most of the web, so it doesn't take that much in resources to index your site. However, everything on the web is new to Bing. Everything. That's why it takes time to crawl through all the information and index it.
by Pishkado June 9, 2009 11:11 AM PDT
Tried Bing last night on the same query that my SO did with Google. Slightly different results, neither enough more (or less) useful than the other to notice. I may try it again, doesn't cost anything, but if this initial experience continues I'll stick with Google because I know it. That's the same reason lots of people stick with Windows, after all (even absent Windows-only apps, company standards, etc., which I understand are valid reasons some of the time as well). Microsoft benefits a great deal from this factor, so it ought to accept that once in a while the shoe will be on the other foot.
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by massfat June 10, 2009 2:34 PM PDT
That's totally true. I think a lot of reporters and bloggers are confused about the 2% share they expect to get, just because they don't realize your point. Microsoft sure knows this, and that's why they didn't want to aim too high. They plan to continue the innovation, and hopefully gain a bit on Google, over time.
by shellcodes_coder June 9, 2009 11:23 AM PDT
Bing rocks
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by cosuna June 9, 2009 11:24 AM PDT
Bing's good, but the parsing of the queries are far less intelligent that google.

I tried finding my U.S. office on the Birds Eye view... and it failed, when I gave the complete address, separated by commas. I tried taking all the data, one by one and it still failed. Finally, I decided to separate the data by spaces, and "voila!" birds eye view.

Lets hope Microsoft can deliver a better version of Hotmail, Office Live and even Spaces, since all of them still suck good compared with Gmail, Google Docs and Facebook, which reminds me of one thing. In this online area, Microsoft's just one of the boys, and if it beats Google, then comes Facebook, then comes Tweeter, then comes LinkedIn, etc etc.

Tough job for Ray Ozzie, to excel (pun intended) when you're no longer the owner of the platform (Windows) but just another duck on the pond (the Web).
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by Fatesrider June 9, 2009 11:58 AM PDT
I tried it. I was unimpressed. It seems no better than Google to me. I don't see the point of switching if all other things seem equal.
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by SergeM256 June 9, 2009 3:14 PM PDT
Similar to Google, but Google is better. Try realistic searches like "auto parts <zip code>" - Google, as expected, returns a list of stores that sell auto parts in the area and Bing is completely lost. Perhaps, numbers will go down when people (like me) who are experimenting with Bing will go back to Google.
by eltoro2827 June 9, 2009 1:35 PM PDT
So far I like bing results...much more options as well.
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by holyreki June 9, 2009 7:22 PM PDT
Bing's travel search is far superior to Google's or Yahoo's. Overall, So far, I'm preferring Bing to Google with the excption of "news" search. They have some work to do there.
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by ZenTigerpaw June 10, 2009 5:15 AM PDT
I'll stick with Google. Thank you very much.
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by jessiethe3rd June 10, 2009 10:10 PM PDT
Bing ROCKS!!
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by sanjayb June 11, 2009 10:02 AM PDT
Bing has got some nice eye candy but I don't see myself switching from Google.
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