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May 28, 2009 12:38 PM PDT

Palm shows Pre at D

by Ina Fried

Palm showed the Palm Pre's rival to the App Store during its demo at D: All Things Digital on Thursday.

(Credit: Ina Fried/CNET)

CARLSBAD, Calif.--In one of the more anticipated chats at D: All Things Digital, Palm Executive Chairman Jon Rubinstein showed off the Palm Pre and talked about several features of the smartphone for the first time.

Rubinstein showed how the device can search Amazon's MP3 store and download songs directly to the device, a feature mentioned at the Pre's unveiling at CES in January. The Pre is scheduled to go on sale June 6 with a price tag of $199.99, after rebate.

He also showed a "media sync" feature that lets users grab nonprotected media files directly from iTunes without any special software. In addition, the universal search feature will not only search Google and Wikipedia, but also Twitter.

Palm also demoed an App Catalog that the company says will launch with the product in beta form. About a dozen programs will be there at launch, Palm said. Among the applications shown on the device were Fandango and the New York Times.

D impresario Walt Mossberg pressed Rubinstein on whether iTunes maker Apple will be unhappy with the feature. "They've gotten much more open," he said. "They've gotten rid of the DRM."

Venture capitalist Roger McNamee, whose firm is Palm's biggest shareholder, said he sees the media sync feature as an acknowledgment of iTunes' power.

"I find it hard to believe they are going to get bent out of shape," McNamee said.

Rubinstein did acknowledge that the Pre is going after the Apple iPhone, along with the BlackBerry devices from Research In Motion.

"Clearly the primary competitors are Apple and RIM," Rubinstein said of the Pre.

Palm: "a new company today"
Before the Pre demo, Rubinstein talked about the steps that got the company where it is.

"We hired a lot of new people into the company," Rubinstein said. "It's a new company today."

Asked what he brought over from Apple, where he had been a hardware guru, Rubinstein said, "I hope I've learned a little bit of taste. I've also learned how important great marketing is."

But Palm is not Apple, he said. "The difference is we're tiny. We're the real little engine that could."

McNamee said that, despite all their success, Apple and RIM have just two points of market share in the global phone business. "We are at the very beginning of a massive transformation," he said. "There was a lot of white space that Palm could step into."

Mossberg asked why Rubinstein and McNamee didn't just start their own company.

"Palm had tremedous assets," Rubinstein said, noting its brand, its history of innovation, and its intellectual property. "The DNA is there," he said. "The way of thinking about great products is there."

The talk began with a video in which McNamee makes all sorts of exaggerated claims about the Pre and Rubinstein constantly interrupts and corrects him. It's a reference to an earlier incident in which McNamee made claims that Palm later had to publicly disavow in a regulatory filing.

McNamee didn't stop with his hyperbole.

"I wish I had the entire fund in Palm," he said. " This is the thing that will define us."

Long live the OS
Asked about what other devices Palm might create, Rubinstein left the door open, but didn't give details.

"We designed the WebOS to work across a variety of products," Rubinstein said. A lot of thought was put into the WebOS that powers the Pre, he said.

"The old Palm OS lasted 15 years but had run its course," Rubinstein said. "We set out to develop a platform that will last us another 10 or 15 years."

Rubinstein said that Palm initially worked with just a couple dozen developers, but is now working with hundreds and has thousands more waiting in the queue.

As for the devices themselves, Rubinstein was asked to comment on reports that Best Buy stores may each have only four devices for launch.

"We are in full production with the Pre," Rubinstein said, adding that he expected there would be shortages because of the demand.

He noted that later this year there will be a GSM version, but declined to confirm a report that Verizon will start selling the Pre in six months time.

"We do love Sprint and they are our exclusive launch partner," Rubinstein said. "It sounds like AT&T and Verizon both want it. I can't comment on unannounced relationships."

On the enterprise side, Rubinstein said, the Pre not only has ActiveSync to get Exchange mail as well as the ability to look up addresses from a corporate directory and remotely wipe a lost phone. He also acknowledged that the security and other business features of Windows Mobile aren't there, pitching those concerned with that toward Palm's Windows Mobile-based Palm Pro.

Among the Pre featues, Palm showed a media-synching feature that transfers unprotected music directly from iTunes.

(Credit: Ina Fried/CNET)
During her years at CNET News, Ina Fried has changed beats several times, changed genders once, and covered both of the Pirates of Silicon Valley. These days, most of her attention is focused on Microsoft. E-mail Ina.
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by somebodytldme May 28, 2009 1:22 PM PDT
i cannot wait....wait i have to, my plan doesnt end until next christmas
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by Atomische May 28, 2009 1:23 PM PDT
Note to model in top photo: HAND CREAM!
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by jomuza May 28, 2009 1:46 PM PDT
That is hilarious!
by MrZook May 28, 2009 2:24 PM PDT
good lord... the Palm PR Troll makes the convention rounds.
by bonesbautista May 28, 2009 3:30 PM PDT
Somebody needs to call Joey Tribbiani in for this one!
by sam99999999 May 28, 2009 3:33 PM PDT
I think the battery leaked on his hand.
by mrcockrell May 31, 2009 2:34 PM PDT
seriously those are some ugly ass hands, i clicked this story to read about the palm pre but all i could focus on was those freakin mitts, ***... i still havent read it yet
by montex66 May 31, 2009 2:40 PM PDT
Did Palm just pull some homeless guy off the street to be their hand model? Who ever took that pic is trying to sabotage Palm's Pre by photographing it in a person's hands that look like they just fixed a tractor out on a farm in Kansas.
by dbloyd May 28, 2009 1:31 PM PDT
That photo of the hand with really bad eczema is very noticeable. They need to put the phone down and put some of this on it. www.freederm.com or see a dermatologist.
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by vara411 May 28, 2009 1:38 PM PDT
Eczema doesn't typically affect the palmar surface of the hands like this. If I had to guess, he likely is suffering from either psoriasis or a fungal infection (Tinea manum, specifically).
by Mr. Dee May 28, 2009 1:53 PM PDT
I was suffering from this a few months back, its hard to get rid of. I think you catch from typing on dirty keyboards and using dirty mice. I use Daktacort miconazoi-hidrocortisona, controls it really well.

Back to the Palm Pre, when I read the head line for this article, I was going to predict doom and gloom for the device, but the more I see the UI, I have agree this is going to be real competition when its released.
by vara411 May 28, 2009 1:35 PM PDT
I was going to say... I hate to be so superficial about it, but they need a new hand model!

The Pre just looks amazing. I can't wait for it to launch!
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by basraw June 3, 2009 2:03 PM PDT
sign up george kastanza! booy yah
by ikramerica--2008 May 28, 2009 1:46 PM PDT
Maybe it's a metaphor for the product?
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by seven7dust May 28, 2009 1:52 PM PDT
all the competition had to do was copy the iPhone
remove the restrictions ,add the missing features
and it took them over 2 yrs to do so !
plus they needed help from a ex Apple guy as well

why is that only Apple understands technology ?
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by DrtyDogg May 28, 2009 2:38 PM PDT
Hate to break it to you but all of that was done except the copying part prior to the iPhones release.
by Vegaman_Dan May 28, 2009 2:40 PM PDT
Good point!

So... where is that Seven7dust cell phone? It's easy according to you, so you should have your own product out now for sale, right?

Where is it again? I'd like to see about buying one today. I'll check BestBuy while i'm out and see if they carry the Seven7dust phone in stock.
by Dr_Garcia May 28, 2009 2:06 PM PDT
Any shots of it in landscape mode or the landscape keyboard?
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by ballmerisanape May 28, 2009 3:57 PM PDT
What makes the iPhone "special"?... the rich applications. If the Pre can't hosts rich applications and games.. it's in the same boat as the others.
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by xxdesmusxx May 28, 2009 4:31 PM PDT
that is one seriously gross looking hand in the top-most photo. Can't wait to play with this phone in person...it looks incredible. Can't wait for it to get to Verizon also!
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by AppleSuxLeo May 28, 2009 4:40 PM PDT
The more we learn about it , the more amazing the Pre is. Palm wasn`t showing all yheir cards on purpose. The demand will be overwhelming.
My sweep account thanks Palm ! God bless Jon "Ruby" Rubinstein. I`m stoked !
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by ballmerisanape May 28, 2009 5:29 PM PDT
Maybe im confused... but synching with itunes (music only) isnt new.. or that bit of a deal. The thing runs local web "apps" for god's sake.. how is this better than anything else out there. There are plenty of text machines available, this is not too different from the rest of them.. so far.. I would love for this to be the next best thing.. but.. at least from what we know about it now.. it really has no real edge over any of the current competition. Being positive is one thing.. being giddy is well... not really warranted at this point.
by bsnar May 28, 2009 4:43 PM PDT
...whats wrong w/ yr fingers...
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by musocat May 28, 2009 6:14 PM PDT
I'm not sure that pricing it at $100 more than an iphone, and then making you mail in a rebate to make it the same price as an iphone, was such a good idea. I have a feeling that more than a few people will look at the Pre and think, "jeez, I can get an iphone for that!"

We'll see.
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by swyve May 28, 2009 6:30 PM PDT
You sound like an iFanboy worried about the "little engine that could" stealing some of that over inflated thunder from your beloved, almighty "i". Settle down. A little competition is good for everyone. Pre's arrival is the reason that the iPhone 3.0 upgrade will add many of the features your phone should have launched with in the first place. Right?
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by ballmerisanape May 28, 2009 6:44 PM PDT
Dear God.. Get rid of that first photo..!!!! That hand really is disgusting!!!!!
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by monkeyfun14 May 28, 2009 7:53 PM PDT
The hand really distracts from the beauty of the phone your in awe and grossed out at the same time.
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by ikramerica--2008 May 28, 2009 8:49 PM PDT
totally. someone needs to do some masking with photoshop, or at least clone out the sores!

hate to think about the next person having to touch that phone after all the fungus is transfered to it.
by jawshoeaw May 28, 2009 11:28 PM PDT
Tinea Manum? Dude, what is that, Latin for hand fungus? reality check, everyone's hands are covered in fungus - i guess "tinea manum" is an overgrowth but there are spores everywhere - be happy you have an immune system.

The picture is probably showing calluses. Apparently you keyboard jockies have never seen these hideous "sores" caused by using your hands. Flash photography will accentuate calluses as the intense light penetrates deeper into the skin.

But even if it was some terrible tinea, so what? We have to launch a hate rant?

Regarding the Palm - it looks like a middle aged iPhone that gained a little weight around the middle. Nice design guys, it looks like a Ford Taurus from the 80s. Only the Soviet designed Zune is uglier.

IMHO of course.
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by AppleSuxLeo May 29, 2009 9:10 AM PDT
Sprint Nextel's exclusive window to sell Palm's Pre will last for six months after its June 6 debut: Verizon Wireless said Thursday that it would carry the smartphone along with a crop of other high-end handsets. These include Research in Motion's sequel to the Blackberry Storm, a new RIM device called the Tour, an Android-based phone, a handset from Motorola and an updated LG enV with a touch screen. PC World (05/28) Reuters (05/28) InformationWeek (05/28) TWICE (05/28)
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by ITsover May 29, 2009 11:26 AM PDT
Actually I would say not fungus just dry callouses and dry open cuts which can be painful.

Oh yeah, nice phone. Unfortunately I just bought an iPhone 3G a few months ago. My Sprint contract was up 8 months ago but because Sprint was so top secret about a launch date I had to make the purchase. I got the BB Curve first but after a week I felt, aside from email management, it was lacking and traded up to the iPhone for the apps, wifi and the good looks. No regrets getting the iPhone but the Pre really looks like a hot phone. The only thing I havent seen with the Pre is Multimedia handling. That would be a big factor for me. Does anyone know if it will have an FM tuner?
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by ITsover May 29, 2009 11:40 AM PDT
Oh yeah and the 3G was a big factor. When downloading apps on edge to the BB I quickly realized that it was too slow. My small Sprint Samsung M-500 was far quicker than edge in downloading data. The only BB with 3G at the time was the Bold but at 300 and a small screen it made the iPhone look that much better. Plus the wifi is brilliant with Pandora. I also switched to ATT for the family plan which makes my monthly for the iPhone $40 (10 for the line and 30 for the data). Great deal.
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by CJmodiano May 30, 2009 11:24 AM PDT
The main picture for this article keeps on freaking me out. It looks like a dead guy hand holding that Pre..
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