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May 11, 2009 10:00 AM PDT

Microsoft confirms Windows 7 coming this year

by Ina Fried
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Microsoft confirmed on Monday that it is planning to release Windows 7 this year, in time for the holiday shopping season.

"We are tracking well to a Windows 7 holiday," Microsoft Senior Vice President Bill Veghte said in an interview. Veghte plans to make a similar statement in a speech Monday at Microsoft's TechEd event in Los Angeles. As recently as January, Veghte was saying publicly that such a release was not a sure thing.

At the event, Microsoft is also announcing it plans to wrap up work on an update to its server operating system--Windows Server 2008 R2--at the same time it finishes Windows 7 on the desktop side. Microsoft issued a release candidate for the server operating system last month, alongside the near-final version of Windows 7.

For months now, Microsoft's official position has been that Windows 7 would ship by January 2010--the three-year anniversary of Windows Vista's mainstream launch. However the software maker has been aiming and planning for a 2009 release all along, as we noted last fall.

Computer makers have been indicating privately--and in a few cases publicly--that things have remained on track. But, with memories of Vista's delays fresh in its mind, Microsoft continued to hedge its bets.

Early feedback from the Windows 7 release candidate, which came out late last month, convinced Microsoft it could commit to a 2009 launch, Veghte said.

Veghte said Microsoft has seen the needed step-function drop in the number of crashes being experienced with the release candidate as opposed to the beta version.

"You know pretty quickly if you've got any big gotchas," he said. "You can get a pretty good sniff pretty quickly."

Equally important, Veghte said the company has seen the needed level of partner support. He noted that the first couple of companies have gotten Windows 7 logo certification. Among that first group are some graphics chip vendors--a big change from Vista in which limited graphics support was among the many compatibility headaches experienced by early adopters.

Veghte did not provide a specific time for launch or when the code would be finalized. However, he said that typically the ecosystem needs anywhere from nine to 14 weeks from the product being declared final to be ready for launch.

At TechEd, Veghte also plans to show a demo of how Office 2010 will take advantage of some of Windows 7's features. For example, Office will make use of a feature called "Jump Lists," which allow users to quickly take action directly from the taskbar at the bottom of the screen. From Outlook's Jump List, for example, users will be able to start a new message, create a contact, or schedule a meeting with two clicks.

Those that have both products will also be able to drag an Office file from a Jump List directly into an e-mail, a big time-saver.

A technical preview of Office 2010 will kick off in July, with those at TechEd among the first to get to try out the software.

During her years at CNET News, Ina Fried has changed beats several times, changed genders once, and covered both of the Pirates of Silicon Valley. These days, most of her attention is focused on Microsoft. E-mail Ina.


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by The_happy_switcher May 11, 2009 10:16 AM PDT
I guess they needed this story to confirm the previous 20 times they told you it was coming in 2009. File under 'nobody cares.' Next.
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by SIGHUP May 11, 2009 10:28 AM PDT
I care you insensitive clod
by myles taylor May 11, 2009 11:55 AM PDT
A lot of people care. I do and I work for a Mac store and use Mac's almost exclusively. I'm really looking forward to Windows 7. Looks like it could be fun.
by GeechyDan May 11, 2009 12:06 PM PDT
If Mac OS X could not win with Vista out, what the fck do you think Apple is going to do against a masterpiece like Windows 7?

Not even Jesus can build an OS to save Apple from this juggernaut.
by sensi2 May 11, 2009 12:19 PM PDT
From the guy with 778 trolling posts, all about his 'nobody cares' ludicrous and pathetic obsession. A brand boot-licking nickname sums up a nutcase pretty well.
by alexbhv May 11, 2009 12:49 PM PDT
I've been reading your comments on many of the MS related reports on CNET and I really like them. Just enough to heat the discussions around here. Every windows nerd gets frustrated for not having anything of good value to say about Windows only "blabla software blabla"

The funny thing is that everyone talks about Mac OS X being Windows biggest enemy (although it's the better OS) they don't understand that Windows worst enemy is Windows. MS has failed to introduce a new OS now for 8 years.

Windows XP was such a huge success (not because it was good but because we were forced to buy it) that MS is being unable to upgrade their own system even when trying to force it on people again. The knowledge about computers is much broader now and it?s harder to trick the general consumer into buying bulls**t as they did before.

Probably and hopefully MS will never have the same market share as they did with Windows XP again. Not only because I like the Mac OS X but also because it?s good for the market to have a couple of choices instead of being forced into crap again.
by Vegaman_Dan May 11, 2009 12:51 PM PDT
@AppleRocks1963:

By the most amazing of coincidences, the phrase "nobody cares" happens to match what regular readers think of your comments. Funny how that is.

I would say that the huge number of downloads of both the beta and now RC 1 would tend to contradict your opinion that nobody cares. People don't download a 2 gb ISO for the fun of it because they have nothing better to do. They must have a reason for it.
by monkeyfun14 May 11, 2009 3:05 PM PDT
@Alex

Unless MS holds a gun to your head your not forced to buy anything.

A computer is a want not a need.
by firefoxluva95 May 11, 2009 5:25 PM PDT
You know there is a bill in the works that can slap you with jail time for trolling. I'd have some care with trolling these blogs just to say something Anti-Microsoft.

http://digg.com/tech_news/Trolling_someone_online_Bill_would_slap_you_with_jail_time

for your reference.
by May 11, 2009 5:49 PM PDT
AppleRocks1963 is the first person to jump on any Microsoft news.. Looks like you spend all your time monitoring for such news.. The company you work for must be very lucky to have you for all your productivity.. Just come out of your foxhole and experience what an amazing product Win7 really is... You will quickly realize what you are missing out on..
by calvin_and_hobbes May 11, 2009 6:07 PM PDT
@monkeyfun16

Get your facts straight.

"Everyone knows the skill and precision of the coders at MS." All Microsoft does is copy whatever Apple does.
"They have a history of putting out user-friendly, elegant, stable releases on time and under budget." Windows ME wasn't user-friendly or stable. XP really sucked at launch. It was only after SP2 that it really kicked off and became popular. Vista was definitely not on time.
"Everyone else will be playing catch-up as usual." Umm... Vista was Microsoft's way of trying to catch up to Mac OS X.

@GeechyDan

"If Mac OS X could not win with Vista out, what the fck do you think Apple is going to do against a masterpiece like Windows 7? " Since Windows is included on the majority of PCs, why do you think it's still has the majority of the OS marketshare? OS X gained several percentage points over the last few years and that'll only increase when Snow Leopard gets released.
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by JasonCe May 11, 2009 11:13 AM PDT
Windows 7 RC is great. The new UI changes are big time-savers, and the system overall feels so much faster. The new "share your libraries over Internet" feature of Windows Media Player is the best feature of all, IMHO.

This is going to be the best client OS release ever! Can't wait to go buy my new laptop with Windows 7!
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by R. U. Sirius May 11, 2009 12:29 PM PDT
> This is going to be the best client OS release ever!

Dude, get a room.

Seriously though, you are either a kool-aid drinking fanboi of the first order, or you work for Microsoft. It's Vista SP2, not the second coming of jesus.

As for this:

> The new "share your libraries over Internet" feature of Windows Media Player is the best feature of all

I'm sure the RIAA will be in complete agreement.
by Vegaman_Dan May 11, 2009 12:53 PM PDT
@R.U.Sirius:

Sharing files across the net won't bother the RIAA at all. DRM still applies, it's your content. You have to log into a Live account to be able to do it, so you aren't streaming to random people. It's more of a remote desktop feature. The RIAA doesn't have anything to complain about there.

As for it being Vista SP2, keep in mind that Vista SP2 is already out now. If you are just hashing the old tired line that Win7 is just Vista reskinned, then it would demonstrate your true ignorance of the subject matter.
by Lerianis3 May 11, 2009 1:00 PM PDT
Vegaman_Dan gets it right in one. Windows 7 is NOT Vista reskinned. Yes, it is better than Vista, however there were a FREAKING LOT of changes to the OS that weren't in Vista, and they have done a better job of retaining 'backwards compatibility' this time around (though really, I didn't have ONE program that wouldn't run on Vista than ran on XP).
by R. U. Sirius May 11, 2009 1:43 PM PDT
> Sharing files across the net won't bother the RIAA at all. DRM still applies, it's your content. You have to log into a
> Live account to be able to do it, so you aren't streaming to random people. It's more of a remote desktop feature.
> The RIAA doesn't have anything to complain about there.

Oh even better, let's spread more DRM infested crapware. Sorry guys, I'm not buying into the hype. I heard the same wonderful stuff about Vista and got burned. I'm staying on XP, and after this comp bites the dust, maybe I'll look at a Mac. I can run XP on a Mac, right?
by Random_Walk May 11, 2009 3:43 PM PDT
"Sharing files across the net won't bother the RIAA at all. DRM still applies, it's your content."

...until the computer gets compromised. Then it's everybody's content, without the need to install a bulky P2P sharing app.
by firefoxluva95 May 11, 2009 5:32 PM PDT
Yeah and sharing your music across the internet and letting you play it after you sign in is compromising DRM how? Not all DRM is all horrible and crippling. Steam is DRM, but you don't hear complaining about it from those gamers.

I am a Vista user, Vista wasn't bad for me and Windows 7 is even better. Perhaps you should test Windows 7 before making these assertions that it's just "Vista SP3". And I looked at the price of RAM and I purchased 4 GB for $30 for my laptop so you can't really argue that hardware upgrades are too expensive.

Go ahead, use XP until the computer bites the dust. Those that didn't cling to XP have left you in the dust. Good luck.
by Renegade Knight May 12, 2009 7:16 AM PDT
@Vegaman_Dan
@Lerianis3

I'm going to do with Duck Theory on this. Vista was broken. MS rather than fix Vista got in a hurry to put out 7. 7 is what Vista should have been. If it's not Vista Reskinned, it's MS's solution to the problem that Vista is. They also didn't start with XP and start over. They started with Vista underpinnings.

In other worlds. Walks like a duck, quacks like a duck, it's a duck. If it's not Vista reskinned it's Vista done right
by Seaspray0 May 12, 2009 8:05 AM PDT
People. Get the facts straight on DRM. DRM is encoded into the data, not the programs or applications. The programs and applications only contain the software needed to decrypt the DRM encoded data when provided with a certificate.
by robert1275 May 11, 2009 11:35 AM PDT
This is great news because it could help pick up the economy in the technical sector during Q4
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by sargess25 May 11, 2009 11:58 AM PDT
8 years on it looks like that M$ has a functional new OS again, that's a long way off from the heady days of XP in 2001. As they say, better (8 yrs) late than never. Having said that, I wonder how soon they are going rush through the first SP to address the hundreds of bugs that any Windows has at release.

bet it'll be 3 months later ...... anyone?
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by SIGHUP May 11, 2009 12:24 PM PDT
So what is your point? Windows 7 will have bug? Duh? Every OS has bugs. I am running the newest version of Ubuntu and it has bugs. OSX has bugs. Please tell me what OS has no bugs.
by kojacked May 11, 2009 12:26 PM PDT
Funny, I thought I was using a functional OS for the past couple of years. Vista works just fine. No crashes, no issues for me. I suppose hater$ like you$elf will alway$ hate no matter what Microsoft does. At least you are capable of holding down the $hift key on you keyboard in order to type the dollar $ign. It work$ pretty well for with Vi$ta too. See: $$$$
by Lerianis3 May 11, 2009 1:01 PM PDT
kojacked, agree totally. I have NEVER had any problems with Vista that were the fault of the OS. Problems coming from some programs on the OS, but not the freaking OS itself.
by seven7dust May 11, 2009 2:26 PM PDT
Anyone who says Vista is a improvement over XP is kidding themselves !
Vista slows you down by hogging resources and Taking ages to do even simple tasks
even little things like shut downs and bootups takes Forever
Face it Vista Sux Even Microsoft Agrees !
Windows 7 OTOH I agree is a Decent upgrade
it's still no Mac O.S though !
by Seaspray0 May 12, 2009 8:13 AM PDT
@seven7dust. No, it's not osx. And osx is not windows 7. And neither are linux, nor vica versa. They are different. Get over it that 90% of the world didn't make the same choice as you. We are different, too.
by sharmajunior May 17, 2009 3:35 PM PDT
Just spent 23 mins and 3 tries to boot up vista properly on my high end Sony and Alienware laptop. It comes up, does not do anything after I log in and then task manager shows everything at 100% with 8 GB RAM (all occupied) and a Intel core 2 duo processor at 2.9 Ghz (running a max cycles).

Don't know why it does that. Been using it for over a year now but still does it. Last one was repaired 3 times and the replacement has the same problems. I know its not the hardware because tmy friend has the same one and has no problems. Vista is still too problematic for developers and designers. Perhaps Windows 7 would have better managed memory and similar functionality as XP.
by miaminica May 11, 2009 12:16 PM PDT
@AppleRocks1963: You cared enough to post. Now who cares? You do, apparently.

I can't wait for Windows 7! My XP machine is now about 6 years old and I need a new computer.
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by jake3373 May 12, 2009 4:02 PM PDT
me too!
I have the RC and it looks pretty promising
by coogrr May 13, 2009 5:33 PM PDT
Not me! I got suckered in and bought a $2000 desktop with all the bells and whistles and Vista. That pc is now sitting in a closet and I am back to my old Dell with XP. When that pc finally gets to the point I can no longer use it, I am going to get a Mac.
by shycelticwitch May 11, 2009 12:43 PM PDT
Sorry, can't justify buying WIndows when Mac just does it so much better. I could care less about the price. And I am certainly not wealthy, or cool. I just want something on my desk that will run consistently, without virus issues and without peripheral issues. I have 5 Macs, from 1 year old to 11 years old. Every single one of them does that. Every day. Show me an 11 year old PC that can still surf the web without waiting 10 minutes for pages to load and I will give you a dollar for it if it doesn't crash.

As for those of you who say Apple is playing "catch up" on OS? Fat chance. MS has been trying to copy the Mac OS interface for years, without EVER getting it right.

I must have one Windblows computer in my office to open MS Publisher files (you know, that Windows only desktop publishing program for amateurs that all print shops and design studios HATE). But it runs XP because it's the last operating system I could use that didn't require 5 days of my time to set it up because of all those pop up windows... ***?
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by bbabadu May 11, 2009 12:59 PM PDT
"I could care less about the price."

Really? Sounds like you're wealthy and cool with a statement like that.
by sensi2 May 11, 2009 1:01 PM PDT
«it runs XP because it's the last operating system I could use that didn't require 5 days of my time to set it up because of all those pop up windows... ***?»

Oh jeez...

run > msconfig > tools > disable UAC? yes then reboot.

3 seconds of your time, even for the biggest -mac- noob. ;)

Dunno why some people feel the need to tell us that they don't want to run Windows because _ insert latest urban myth/biased POV/fallacy here_ between others relevant things. :)
by Lerianis3 May 11, 2009 1:03 PM PDT
A Mac does it so much better....... BWAHAHAHAHAHA! Oh man.... funniest thing I have EVER heard. Yeah, Mac's are good..... if you like overpaying for them, if you like not having a good choice of programs..... need I keep going on?

Microsoft has NOT been trying to copy the OSX interface for years..... if anything, they have been innovating their OWN interface, not trying to copy OSX's, and there are some things that are just OBVIOUS when you think about them.
5 days of your time to set up a Vista PC..... cough.... LIAR! I have TONS of programs I put on our new PC's when we get them in my home.... doesn't take me 5 days.... maybe 5 HOURS, even on a laptop.
by sensi2 May 11, 2009 1:30 PM PDT
Oops, sorry i have missed your others 165 posts of mac fanboism, that human tragedy. No need to waste time explaining the obvious to propagandist bots...
by seven7dust May 11, 2009 2:37 PM PDT
Viruses are not that hard to deal with !
the reason why the Mac O.S is better is because of how well it's designed
it takes half the no. of steps to get things done in comparison
plus Spotlight and Widgets are still far far better than their Windows Counterparts
add in all the great Mac only third party Software like quicksilver etc.
the Mac O.S is still far better than 7 !
and the Funny part Windows Runs best as a parallel VM in Vmware Fusion on a Mac
by monkeyfun14 May 11, 2009 3:55 PM PDT
@seven

Please provide proof with hardware specs of both machines down to the Ram and FSB speeds
by Vegaman_Dan May 11, 2009 8:56 PM PDT
I have several 10+ year old laptops that are still on their original installations- they don't have any problem keeping up. Your claim is debunked right there.

The impression your posting gives is fthat of an elitist snob, I'm afraid. Here's a prime example:

"I must have one Windblows computer in my office to open MS Publisher files (you know, that Windows only desktop publishing program for amateurs that all print shops and design studios HATE). "

Do you call all your customers who come to your company for help 'amateurs?' I know I certainly wouldn't appreciate being called that when I'm coing to you for help. It's just- well, unprofessional conduct and inexcusable.

Please do us all a favor and either get out of the business or get a clue. You have become the problem. :/
by Angmarr May 11, 2009 12:57 PM PDT
Awesome, cant wait until stupid macs gets the boot! next year is gonna rock its Mac zombie killing time!
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by Vegaman_Dan May 11, 2009 8:58 PM PDT
I'd throttle back that hostility, Angmarr. Each OS has its place for the people who need it. I use both OS X and Windows flavors for their best application of features.
by Angmarr May 11, 2009 10:46 PM PDT
fine = P
by drbyte May 11, 2009 2:03 PM PDT
So what does 7 do that XP can't? I know it looks nicer, but what else? I have Vista Home on my laptop and can't see what it does that XP can't. All my productivity work is done on XP pro machines. FOr those that have tried it, will 7 offer something new and useful?
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by seven7dust May 11, 2009 2:39 PM PDT
Windows 7 is better than Vista for sure {hell anything beats that O.S}
it's better to try it out for yourself though
by SIGHUP May 11, 2009 2:47 PM PDT
@seven7dust

Apparently you were too young to remember Windows ME. Now that was a piece of crap.
by E McCann May 11, 2009 3:27 PM PDT
Homegroups, for one. It's also, frankly, much nicer to set up - it had better be, with years of drivers over a new XP install. Jump lists are convenient, as are the thumbnails (which expand) on the taskbar. Libraries, as well. And then there's the solidness of the 64 bit version.

XP is running strongly here, as well, don't get me wrong, and I've got one machine that'll run it til that machine falls apart - but there are a lot of nice little QOL changes throughout it that just make using it that much more pleasant. It's definitely more than just a "prettier face." I'm looking forward to the final release.
by zyxxy May 12, 2009 8:13 AM PDT
I have two very similar desktops, one running XP Pro SP3, the other running Vista 64 SP1, and the Vista 64 install is more stable than the XP install. On modern hardware, Vista makes better use of multiple cores. That is my experience. For all the whining I see about Vista, I really have not had any problems. That said, I know for certain that Vista (32) will not install on an old Thinkpad T40. However, last week I installed Windows 7 RC on that T40 and it went very smoothly. The only hitch was that it required being on the wired LAN to pull the updates, because the updates included the Wireless driver. The only other small detour was that my old LaserJet 4Plus didn't appear in the printer list, but the install dialog asked if I wanted to pull additional printers from Microsoft, and it was on that expanded list.

It only runs the 'Basic' interface, not Aero, because the video hardware on the old T40 is not sufficient for Aero. But everything else runs fine, and it appears to be more responsive than a clean install of XP Pro on that very same laptop. So far, the Win 7 RC looks very solid.
by fwjs28 May 11, 2009 2:35 PM PDT
sigh...linux FTW
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by tekwiz4u May 11, 2009 2:46 PM PDT
We need to give Windows 7 a chance here. XP is close to being to its end and I welcome the change. Yes....Vista is a dud. But it took thousands of posts, like the cons above in this forum, to wake Microsoft up from its sleep and take users seriously on what we want. And they did with Windows 7.

Now its a waiting game, but I believe MS is going to hit the ball out of the park with this OS.
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by notsatch May 12, 2009 8:06 AM PDT
"MS is going to hit the ball out of the park with this OS."

Yes, it'll be a huge foul...
by tekwiz4u May 12, 2009 11:43 AM PDT
It's called a 'Homerun' my friend.
by rish000 May 11, 2009 3:09 PM PDT
I hope we do not need to buy new laptops that are windows 7 compatible or update any graphics card..
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by E McCann May 11, 2009 3:29 PM PDT
It depends. How old is your laptop? It'd be a lie to say "No, no computer that runs XP will need updating!" Or that there won't be drivers that aren't up to date on release. But it's seemed pretty decent so far, even on 3-4 year old hardware.
by cpopken May 11, 2009 9:15 PM PDT
Windows 7 runs fine on my 2 1/2 year old laptop with a 1.66 Intel Core 2 duo with 3GB of ram. It runs much faster than XP. I am not having any problems at all.
by zyxxy May 12, 2009 10:46 AM PDT
Running fine on a 2003 ThinkPad T40, 1.3Ghz Pentium M, 1.25GB memory. Intel A/B/G wireless.
On initial install it came up 800x600, but adjusted to 1024x768 without problem.
Basic interface graphics (XP style), not Aero. It runs fine including Java and Flash.
by J-E-M May 11, 2009 3:11 PM PDT
'I still use XP PRO.but it's common knowledge that windows has many "entry points "for worms, trojans. etc. The Mac OS is built safer. Only time will tell what how well 7 is built. For now the list is as follows 1. Mac OS. 2.Linux. 3. XP Pro.
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by Vegaman_Dan May 11, 2009 9:00 PM PDT
That is your list and it's a good one. For me its' Windows, OSX and Linux in that order of usage. A good example of how your mileage may vary.
by rish000 May 11, 2009 3:13 PM PDT
Even if Vista has bugs, it is because it is an upgrade from xp. You cannot just live with simple looking OS's for the rest of your life. Need steps of improvement which of course has to include bugs. When xp came out first there were loads back then, see how long it has taken for them to make it completely stable.
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by GDEsplin May 11, 2009 5:02 PM PDT
Why choose between Windows and Mac OS? I have both on my iMac. Well, I guess to have both on one computer, you have to have a mac. :)
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by Vegaman_Dan May 11, 2009 9:02 PM PDT
Or any other computer on the planet. I have both OS X and Vista on a Dell Optiplex GX620. It works great and is quieter and faster than my Mac.
by jcomputm May 11, 2009 7:50 PM PDT
Windows 7. At last it is to come. I'm in a mood for partitioning my computer for 7.
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by kdrobb2k May 11, 2009 7:50 PM PDT
Windows 7 is a highly anticipated OS. While not bad Vista SP1 still has its quirks. After numerous FAILS I recently powered off the Vista laptop in frustration and completed my work tasks on an old XP SP3 machine. Not a MS hater here but I need a 'go to' system that just works. Rooting for Microsoft to succeed with their latest and greatest.
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by blindmessiah May 12, 2009 6:05 AM PDT
Oi voi.

Windows 7 is awesome, I can vouch for it, because I have been running it since the first beta release. I'm now on the RC, and I have no complaints. It's way better than XP and Vista combined.

@ calvin_and_hobbe : "Since Windows is included on the majority of PCs, why do you think it's still has the majority of the OS marketshare?"

Perhaps that is because MS actually writes their OS to work on just about ANY piece of hardware. Whereas Apple only supports their hand picked hardware. So please keep that in mind. I'm sure that if Apple opened up to this idea, and coded Mac OS X for the open market, then sure I don't see why they wouldn't be popular.

I am sure Apple would make more money when they stop forcing people to buy over-priced hardware, which is exactly like the hardware available to PC's, with the exception of their motherboard using a different method of booting the OS. That is the biggest detterence when it comes to a Macs hardware. Their OS is great on their hardware, I have used it, and loved it. Though I feel that it would be a good thing to compare it fairly against MS, only when Apple tries to support a wide range of hardware configurations, as MS is currently doing.

Honestly. If people actually spent time, and bought the hardware which is 100% supported by MS, (which can be done by looking at the HCL) and then assembled and installed it, and use applications that is meant for the current generation OS, and not a legasy OS, then there won't be any of those problems such as BSOD etc. A Mac isn't impervious to crashing either, which most people tend to forget.

Until then, I think these debates (though they seem like flaming to me) is futile and unfair to either of the companies.
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by shycelticwitch May 15, 2009 8:40 AM PDT
Dude, you just contradicted yourself at least three times in your nonfactual statement.

1. Mac OSX IS superior to Windows in every way, since Windows has been copying the Mac platform since Apple beat them to the consumer market in the very beginning.

2. Mac keeps a tight rein on their software and "hand picked" software because when you DON'T mind the quality, you end up with something like a PC with Windows that is unstable and incompatible with a lot of peripherals (I have NEVER plugged a device into my Mac that was not recognized IMMEDIATELY, WITHOUT having to install this driver or that driver).

3. Nobody is FORCING me to buy Apple products. I buy them for the two reasons listed above and... because every Mac that I HAVE bought is still running, and is functional.

Windows does NOT work well on EVERY piece of hardware. How do I know this? I have ONE Windows PC that spends more time telling me what to do and what not to do that I spend telling it what to do. That's just BS as far as I am concerned. I don't want a computer that treats me like an idiot, and has the stability of antimatter.
by sussane123 May 12, 2009 6:57 AM PDT
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by notsatch May 12, 2009 8:00 AM PDT
"You can get a pretty good sniff pretty quickly."

Yeah, I got a pretty good sniff pretty quickly and it stinks. I get through the initial setup and during the first reboot, before the system POST, I get a black screen with a solid cursor in the upper left corner and that's all she wrote. Tried it on 2 different hard drives using 2 different image downloads with the same results. What's really hilarious is that the beta worked great. I can only surmise, therefore, that the actual retail release will result in the spontaneous combustion of my hard drive or my pc upon installation. I just can't wait for the release of Windows 7... so that I can stay on XP.

And before you flamers even start, I'm running generic hardware, nothing exotic, and I know that both of the hard drives I attempted to install on are in good working order and as stated above, the beta worked.

Intel C2D in an Intel DP35DP mobo
8 GB Crucial RAM (not Ballistix)
nVidia GeForce 8600 graphics
Samsung T240 LCD connected via DVI
Seagate hard drives

Also tried the Windows 7 forums on Windows Live. Got a couple generic responses and a "See ya later, good luck with that" from one of their top MVP "answerers" who subsequently and promptly marked my thread as answered with a nice big green checkmark! WOOT!

Just as an aside, I'm no Mac fanboy, I've never used one and know nothing about them, but I hope in the coming years they (and Linux too) can somehow manage to ***** slap Microsoft so hard that the idiots in Redmond have to either sink or learn to swim.

So in closing, enjoy the odor. It's the smell of burning bridges.
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by pithenumber May 12, 2009 5:43 PM PDT
its still in development, submit a bug, you might get a free copy of Win7 from MS when everything works
by jjbenning May 13, 2009 9:30 PM PDT
Yes, definitely submit a bug report. If your PC blacked out on you after the install but the beta worked fine, there was obviously a change that didn't take. Did you try both the 32- and 64-bit versions?
by uninstall_vista_virus May 12, 2009 9:44 AM PDT
Well Said... Good Show Old Chap!
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Verizon Wireless has doubled its early-termination fees for smartphones, but what does it mean for the rest of the industry?

Google has its own plan for Netbooks

No, the search giant isn't saying it will build a Netbook. But it sure knows what it would like one running Chrome OS to resemble, and that's a little different from the Netbook of today.
• Screenshot tour of Chrome OS

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During her years at CNET News, Ina Fried has changed beats several times, changed genders once, and covered both of the Pirates of Silicon Valley. These days, most of her attention is focused on Microsoft.


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