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April 24, 2009 12:20 PM PDT

Microsoft cancels company picnic

by Ina Fried

A photo from Microsoft's 2007 company picnic.

(Credit: Flickr user Marc_Smith )

When Microsoft said on Thursday that it had found more ways to trim expenses, it wasn't kidding.

The software maker notified its workers on Friday that it is canceling its annual summer picnic for Seattle-area workers.

Microsoft spokesman Lou Gellos said that the company made the move as part of its effort to pare its expenses and said workers were notified on Friday because this is around the time of year that the company typically sends out a reminder about the event.

Gellos noted that the event has become a growing logistical challenge as Microsoft's Puget Sound workforce has grown.

"It becomes a bigger and bigger issue every year," he said. The company now has about 41,000 workers in the region.

Gellos did not have an estimate on how much the event costs to produce, or what, if anything, Microsoft might do in its place. "We'll look to investigate ways we can have something to bring folks together, but not in the way we have in the past."

The yearly picnic was one of the few events that brought together the bulk of Microsoft's Puget Sound workforce, which is spread out over many different parts of the region, including Seattle, Bellevue, and Redmond. The company also has a company meeting, typically held in September, that takes place at Safeco Field, the home of the Mariners baseball team.

"We'll still have that because it's very business-oriented," Gellos said.

Microsoft has significantly trimmed its travel budget as well as its large bills for vendors and contractors, as well as announced plans to cut 5,000 workers over the next 18 months.

While leaders at EMC and Intel said they saw signs that the economic woes may have reached bottom, Microsoft's executives said on Thursday that they see continued pressures lasting through at least the rest of 2009.

During her years at CNET News, Ina Fried has changed beats several times, changed genders once, and covered both of the Pirates of Silicon Valley. These days, most of her attention is focused on Microsoft. E-mail Ina.
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by Norseman April 24, 2009 12:47 PM PDT
The market must have heard that the picnic has been cancelled, 'cause MSFT is up today.

I really wish someone would explain to me why Apple announces a gangbuster quarter and their stock goes down. Microsoft announces a miserable one and theirs goes up. Maybe I'm wrong, but I thought it was supposed to work the opposite way.
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by MMC Racing April 24, 2009 12:58 PM PDT
There are many possible reasons. One could be that great results were already priced into Apple's stock and bad results were already priced into Microsoft stock. While Apple exceeded in some areas, people may have looked at down MAC sales and decided to take some profit.. For Microsoft, the cost cutting looked good and there is going to be some momentum around Win 7 this fall..

But really there could be hundreds of other reasons too..
by pentest April 24, 2009 2:05 PM PDT
The market is nothing more than blind people throwing darts.
by cvaldes1831 April 24, 2009 2:45 PM PDT
Investors are weenies.
by AllenKids April 24, 2009 4:55 PM PDT
The stock market really exist in its own bizzarro universe.

Remember when Apple announced MacBook Air back at Macworld08, AAPL were down like 2% next day?

At least AAPL enjoyed one day up this time.

Actually stock-holders have good reasons to cash-in after great quarterly report.

And it's not like AAPL could magically pull some shiny new thing out of thin air before WWDC.
by ubnyan April 24, 2009 1:01 PM PDT
So Microsoft spends millions/billions in marketing, purchases, etc but they worry about spending a bit for their own employees? Were they planning to spend a billion in their company picnic? Great way to motivate employees Ballmer.
Microsoft picnic = pennies for the company.
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by magicmaster April 25, 2009 2:57 AM PDT
One word: DILBERT!
by ReVeLaTeD April 25, 2009 9:46 AM PDT
Applaud MS for finding another way to cut cost.

Berate MS for the fact that they're spending literally millions of dollars on their Apple smear campaigns - "Mojave Experiment", Windows Photo Gallery, and that whole Find a PC nonsense. If they would stop with just one of those commercials they'd be able to do the picnic.
by inachu1 April 27, 2009 8:54 AM PDT
I agree 100%. Next one day they will cut out in house pizza ordering and ban jolt cola from the programming dept areas.
by Willie Winkie April 24, 2009 1:07 PM PDT
As most of you are already aware, Steve Ballmer is the closest thing to an oversized human ***** as is likely to exist in the known universe. HE IS AN EMBARRASSMENT TO MOST MICROSOFT EMPLOYEES. If there is any upside to the picnic cancellation, its that no one will have to see him or his sweaty armpits at an event where people are trying to eat.
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by Mr. Dee April 24, 2009 1:12 PM PDT
You got turned down for an interview huh? [CNET editors' note: Personal attack deleted.]
by themrwhite April 24, 2009 1:19 PM PDT
LOL, they might mistake him for the hawaiian pig that may be served.
by pentest April 24, 2009 2:08 PM PDT
"moron's"???

LOL

Given that you have shown you are an idiot of danseasprayfutureguy proportions, that is pretty funny coming from you.
by Mr. Dee April 24, 2009 2:33 PM PDT
Pentest: The Moron God - I guess that does not make us equal.
by The_happy_switcher April 24, 2009 2:43 PM PDT
Mr. Tweedle Dee (Dum): Too stupid to even insult correctly. Maybe you should fire up Windows Office Suite version 123 and start using grammar checker.
by Seaspray0 April 24, 2009 3:02 PM PDT
@pentest. Wow. I feel so uninsulted since it's comming from you.
by Mr. Dee April 24, 2009 6:17 PM PDT
Apple, go to the garbage, you are beginning to rot.
by EcuadorHomesOnline April 25, 2009 4:39 AM PDT
I met Mr. Ballmer (and Mr. Gates) when I was working with the HD-DVD forum. I found him to be quite plesant, exceedingly intelligent, and creative as hell. In a meeting one afternon, he outlined three potential business strategies that our entire team missed after three months of analyzing the specific problem we were discussing.

Cancelling the picnic is meaningless, not even worth the time that has been spent discussing it here.
by scott2400 April 25, 2009 1:56 PM PDT
Mr. Dee - hmmm, those profits smell too sweet to be garbage, no matter how you plug your nose, close your eyes, and wish... must suk being you.
by Mr. Dee April 25, 2009 2:11 PM PDT
Huh? I don't care really, Microsoft makes great products, I just don't see why an over expensive PC from Mr. Apple Dumpling is better than a fully secure Windows Vista 64-Bit Dell PC. People need get off their cloud 9 and stop with nonsense. Windows works, Linux does not, Apple is just selling hot air.
by ikramerica--2008 April 24, 2009 1:10 PM PDT
How much profit does MS need to make exactly to keep this picnic going?

It's not like they posted a loss or got federal bailout money or is ready for bankruptcy. They are hugely profitable.

Lame.
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by NickH April 25, 2009 5:23 AM PDT
Well, if it cost 200 bucks a head for each of 41,000 people, that's over 8 million. At an average of say 60k salary (a total guess on my part), that's the equivalent savings as 136 jobs cut.

Microsoft are cutting jobs, and if not having a picnic saves 136 peoples jobs, that doesnt seem at all lame to me.
by Kewpa April 26, 2009 6:37 PM PDT
@Nick
Agreed. If they miss out on free food and bouncy castles so they can feed and house their families, then I say cancel the picnic.
by Mr. Dee April 24, 2009 1:14 PM PDT
I guess this is just a sign of the times. Expect the following changes in the future:
- Windows 7 will be a virtual launch
- No more MVP summit
- TechED will become smaller, more virtual focused conferences that are region based
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by pentest April 24, 2009 2:08 PM PDT
They are still stealing money hand over fist.
by Mr. Dee April 24, 2009 2:33 PM PDT
Apple started the business of stealing money hand over fist and Linux is trying find a way in.
by The_happy_switcher April 24, 2009 1:17 PM PDT
I guess that 14 billion in profits can't cover the cost of a picnic. lol
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by Mr. Dee April 24, 2009 1:58 PM PDT
And I guess 8 billion can't help Steve Jobs from feeling underappreciated and under the weather:
http://tinyurl.com/d5u5l9.
by tm_anon April 24, 2009 2:17 PM PDT
@Mr. Dee

How much would it cost to get you to stop being so immature?
by Mr. Dee April 24, 2009 2:34 PM PDT
When individuals like you and AppleRocks stop talking crap.
by scott2400 April 25, 2009 2:02 PM PDT
"When individuals like you and AppleRocks stop talking crap."

Oh, Mr. Dee - tell us, how do we do that? You've been the shining example of talking "crap", how do you continue to do it? All those hours spent hunched over your crappy machine, spewing out more and more... didn't your therapist tell you it's just not good for you, and you should move on and get a life? Mindless obsession is such a nasty little thing..
by Mr. Dee April 25, 2009 2:13 PM PDT
Another one of the Apple Dumpling gang, I see that someone dropped you pot of boiling water scott2400 and you came out look like mush. Sorry, its not our fault your Apple and Linux stupidity is not making any headway.
by Kewpa April 26, 2009 6:39 PM PDT
Mr. Dee, don't allow the iSheep the pleasure of seeing you upset.
They'll end up giddy and will stay up past their 7 o'clock bedtime.
by Angmarr April 24, 2009 1:18 PM PDT
Man I REALLLLLY hope that Steve Ballmer doesn't F-up Bill Gates's legacy!

whether you love/hate MS "Bill Gates" was/is Amazing!
( F-U for anybody who hates him!)
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by denisgoodwin April 24, 2009 1:27 PM PDT
yeah, uh, that ship has sailed my friend. Ballmer is a trainwreck and MSFT has seen its best days. They've got a lot of inertia on their side, but this won't be the last time they report lower revenue.
by pentest April 24, 2009 2:09 PM PDT
Gates' legacy is one of being a nonviolent crime lord.
by Mr. Dee April 24, 2009 2:35 PM PDT
Who are you to judge pentest? If you have nothing decent to say, go outside for a while and get some fresh air.
by Rolker April 24, 2009 1:18 PM PDT
If it was any other company, the comments would have been "yeah, times are hard. This is expected."
But because it is MS, people have this feeling that they need to say something bad about MS. That they are cheap on their work force, etc.
MS was hit, like any other company in the market. So it takes measures to prevent from things going worse.
I'm sure that all the companies, once the economic situation will get better, will go back to their usual routines: trying to make their work place more fun.
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by ikramerica--2008 April 24, 2009 2:00 PM PDT
nope.

times are not hard at MS. they just turned a massive profit, and have $40 billion in cash. is it as good as last year? no, but make yourself a better company, don't take it out on the families of your employees.

I think most companies canceling these events are stupid, but at least for some, they are doing it because they have political pressure to do so. Here, MS has no such pressure, are making lots of money, and are being cheap for no reason other than they can.

It's not the best way to improve their corporate culture. But maybe someone in PR thought "how can we have a party for 40000 people when we just announced 5000 layoffs?" The answer is, because people lose their jobs all the time in this world. Everyone else isn't supposed to suffer, too.
by pentest April 24, 2009 2:11 PM PDT
They were not hit, they are still posting large profits.

It is just the insane idea that if a company isn't growing it is in trouble or at least needs to scale back. That is idiocy. A company can live forever at a break even point.

Yes, MS is in trouble, but it is from technological reasons not business.
by styymy April 24, 2009 1:21 PM PDT
Burgers and hot dogs must be pretty pricey out that way, maybe Costco will cut them a deal.
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by Mr. Dee April 24, 2009 1:58 PM PDT
Wow, you are quite generous, when did you buy burgers, hot dogs and juice for 41,000 people?
by SEXYDIVERGUY April 24, 2009 1:25 PM PDT
Yep,cancel the picnic. I wonder if the coders at MS are going to take this sitting down. :)
This is the worst thing a company can do in times like this. I have no respect for Steve Ballmer and I'm sure his staff feel the same way.....
I could tell that MS is trimming down when I was at a Windows 7 presentation the other night. There were just enough Comp Pens to go around, a few soft drinks and pastries. I was wondering if I was even going to receive a disk...
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by The_happy_switcher April 24, 2009 1:32 PM PDT
Microsoft sucks and their products, too. Their employees have my sympathy.
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by Mr. Dee April 24, 2009 2:00 PM PDT
Apple and their Paris Hilton Collection sucks infinite, I am actually sorry for the customers with exception to you.
by pentest April 24, 2009 2:12 PM PDT
No sympathy from me. Where you work is as much of a moral and ethical choice as it is an economical choice.
by gp2792 April 24, 2009 2:45 PM PDT
@pentest

I doubt Microsoft employees, other than those cut, have any need for your sympathy.
by sargess25 April 24, 2009 1:35 PM PDT
lol that pictorial really encapsulate M$ world - on top of the ride sits an oversized look alike steve ballmer dispensing cheap&nasty gadgets to his uneducated, pikey customers. they really deserve each other
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by Mr. Dee April 24, 2009 2:01 PM PDT
Let me guess, another spoiled Apple that somehow fell from the tree into what the cow that was under it just left behind.
by tm_anon April 24, 2009 2:21 PM PDT
@Mr. Dee

So I'm guessing since you knew there was something back there, that makes you the cow? You do seem to be chewing a lot of cud on these comments today.
by sargess25 April 24, 2009 2:34 PM PDT
Mr. Dee - you've already been given advice here, get a job, earn some money so you'll be able to afford a proper computer. We feel your pain, it's sad making do with a Windows 95 bugs infested PC, you bought 12 yrs ago at your local car boot sales.
by Mr. Dee April 24, 2009 2:37 PM PDT
I guess that would make you Apple #2 for today that fell from tree huh tm_anon?
by Wei_Zhu April 24, 2009 1:39 PM PDT
I am glad that Microsoft is getting rid of the picnic. I went to the picnic two or three times over the years. Every time I left early, tired and disappointed. Canceling it is money well saved.
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by scdecade April 24, 2009 1:40 PM PDT
What a dumb thing to do. It costs the company pennies. Is teamwork and job satisfaction allowed to suffer as a result?
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by ikramerica--2008 April 24, 2009 2:01 PM PDT
throwing a party for 40000 employees and their families (even if they don't all show up) costs more than pennies. it costs millions. but they have billions...
by Mr. Dee April 24, 2009 2:02 PM PDT
You don't work there so you don't have any reason to complain. Why don't you complain about those 1,600 Apple Employees who recently lost their jobs?
by NeverFade April 24, 2009 5:10 PM PDT
@ Mr. Dee

Apple did not layoff workers - they cut hours only - not employees.

http://mediamemo.allthingsd.com/20090424/did-apple-just-fire-1600-retail-workers-nope/
by ikramerica--2008 April 24, 2009 6:10 PM PDT
and it was post-holiday draw down in SALES, something everybody does. They add employees (or hours) in November, then cut employees (or hours) in January. Many who work retail don't want to work 40 hours a week all year, but will do it over the holidays to make money for the holidays. Many are part-time for a REASON. They have other jobs, school, etc.

Get a clue.
by slickuser April 24, 2009 1:53 PM PDT
fix the bugs you engineers! you don't deserve picnic...
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by Mr. Dee April 24, 2009 2:02 PM PDT
Fix your comment, it deserves to be deleted.
by tm_anon April 24, 2009 2:24 PM PDT
@slickuser

The picnic may just help them relax long enough to go back to work and be productive. That's something brought around due to Henry Fords influence and it's a great idea.

@Mr. Dee

If you don't agree with comment, give reasons why or stop making your own.
by sargess25 April 24, 2009 2:35 PM PDT
Mr Dee - have you reinstalled Windows today?
by The_happy_switcher April 24, 2009 2:48 PM PDT
Hey Sargess take it easy on Dee--his mother probably dropped him on his head one too many times when he was an infant.
by Mr. Dee April 24, 2009 6:21 PM PDT
AppleRocks, I heard that your mother shook you on the iPhone to the point Apple had to remove you from the AppStore.
by The_happy_switcher April 24, 2009 11:21 PM PDT
Dee, you are such a witless twit. Stop embarrassing yourself with these pathetic attempts to be funny.
by Mr. Dee April 25, 2009 6:18 AM PDT
And you are a rotten fruit that needs to go to the dumpster.
by pentest April 24, 2009 2:06 PM PDT
I would like to know how this qualifies as news.

As MS become more irrelevant, so will there bottom line. It will be a slow process and by the time MS realizes it is dying, it will be too late.
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by technewsjunkie April 24, 2009 2:15 PM PDT
How many Billions does Microsoft have in it's war chest?

No picnic money?
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by ppgreat April 24, 2009 2:22 PM PDT
I can certainly sympathize with any company that wants to cut costs right now. That said, I hope Microsoft finds a different way to recognize the efforts of its people in lieu of the picnic.
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by BtmnHatesRbn April 24, 2009 2:26 PM PDT
Why do you Micro$oft Apologists even bother commenting? You're like a Marxist amongst Demcorats.
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by The_happy_switcher April 24, 2009 2:34 PM PDT
Mr. Dee: Microsoft's favorite apologist. I guess he has to supplement that Mickey D's paycheck somehow.
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by Mr. Dee April 24, 2009 6:22 PM PDT
I am a apologist and you are an Apple sadist.
by Vegaman_Dan April 24, 2009 9:00 PM PDT
Enough, AppleRocks1963. Your comments are no longer welcome here by anyone at this point. If you have something actually constructive or useful to say, then please do so- it would be a welcome change from the norm for you.

Otherwise, do us all a favor and *don't* post here.
by The_happy_switcher April 24, 2009 11:23 PM PDT
"Your comments are no longer welcome here by anyone at this point. " Gee, I wasn't aware you spoke for the rest of the board, ********. I think there are plenty here who don't share your arrogant point of view you pompous prick.
by Mr. Dee April 25, 2009 6:20 AM PDT
Hey Mr. Paris Hilton Collection, didn't you hear? Go away, you are nothing but damaged goods.
by The_happy_switcher April 25, 2009 11:35 AM PDT
I'm not going anywhere you braindead inbred-cretin.
by Mr. Dee April 25, 2009 2:14 PM PDT
Apple, please you are spread disease, no one wants your over expensive collection.
by The_happy_switcher April 25, 2009 11:15 PM PDT
Whatever that means, you blathering incoherent ****** bag. Skip your meds today?
by rapier1 April 27, 2009 11:16 AM PDT
Actually, Apple Rocks, I think he does speak for a lot of people. Even Mac owners like myself are embarrassed when people like you speak out.
by The_happy_switcher April 27, 2009 2:50 PM PDT
If that's true you should sell your Mac and switch to Windows. You're no longer on the team.
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