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March 17, 2009 1:12 PM PDT

IE 8, Silverlight 3 on tap for Microsoft's Mix

by Ina Fried

A correction was made to this story. See below for details.

The expected release of Internet Explorer 8 is likely to be the biggest headline out of Microsoft's Mix conference this week, though the company is likely to spend at least as much time talking about Silverlight 3, the next version of its would-be rival to Adobe's Flash.

Microsoft has already released a near-final release candidate version of IE 8 and is widely expected to declare the browser done as it prepares to address a crowd of Web developers in Las Vegas starting on Wednesday. Microsoft used last year's Mix event to offer the first public demo of IE 8.

Among its features, IE 8 includes a private browsing mode, the ability to create "slices" of a Web page that can be viewed on their own as well as greater compliance with Web standards.

The release of IE 8 comes as the market for Web browsers is heating up. Microsoft has seen its share of the browser market slip and has also been on the negative side of lots of speed comparisons from Google and Apple. For its part, Microsoft released a video last week that shows that IE 8 can still be faster overall at loading many Web pages, despite having a slower JavaScript engine.

As for Silverlight, Microsoft continues to add features and announce some high-profile deals, although Adobe's Flash has also won back some customers, such as Major League Baseball, and continues to maintain its ubiquity advantage.

Microsoft is also expected to offer new details on its Windows Azure road map. The cloud operating system suffered its first black eye over the weekend when it suffered a nearly day-long outage.

The software maker announced Windows Azure at its Professional Developer Conference in October. Microsoft has yet to detail what it will charge for the service, although pricing is not expected to be among the details Microsoft clarifies at Mix.

Personally, I'm looking forward to a chat from multitouch pioneer Bill Buxton, who currently works for Microsoft Research. Buxton is expected to talk about the importance of design in technology--a notion he has been trying to advance within Redmond's walls since his arrival at the company.

I had a chance to chat with Buxton at the recent TechFest event at Microsoft. He talked about the challenges that he faced when he joined the company three years ago. At the time, he said there was just one person with a design background that was in the company's senior leadership.

"It's not been part of the DNA," he said. Buxton maintains that Microsoft can do better, though, pointing to the company's Arc Mouse as an example of what it can do when it puts design at the forefront.

It was the lack of a design focus at Microsoft that attracted Buxton. "You go where there is a place you can apply your skills," Buxton told me. He just wanted to make sure he had "a willing patient." Buxton said Microsoft CEO Steve Ballmer convinced him that the company did want to improve on the design front.

Buxton said he expects the effort to take some time, though. "It's a big company to change overnight."

Correction 1:34 p.m. PDT: This story was updated with the correct launch date of the Mix conference. It starts this Wednesday.

During her years at CNET News, Ina Fried has changed beats several times, changed genders once, and covered both of the Pirates of Silicon Valley. These days, most of her attention is focused on Microsoft. E-mail Ina.
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by ewelch March 17, 2009 1:44 PM PDT
He means it's a big company that won't change overnight.

Silverlight? They still think it has legs? Ha. Forget it. HTML 5, CSS Animation, and other W3C standards are the future. Not proprietary nonsense like this. Flash is too entrenched on the media player front. It too will yield to open standards eventually. Silverlight is too late to the part where we can already see its end.
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by ncalishome March 17, 2009 2:40 PM PDT
If you think "HTML 5, CSS Animation, and other W3C standards" are going to replace application development with Flash/Flex or Silverlight I've got a bridge to sell you
by Seaspray0 March 18, 2009 11:49 AM PDT
"Not proprietary nonsense like this." and then about flash... "It too will yield to open standards eventually."

In other words, proprietary software is great as long as it doesn't come from microsoft? You're just another ms hating troll.
by goodspeed8701 March 17, 2009 3:41 PM PDT
This would be greate cant wait to install it. even if its not fast as chrome i still have many reason to use it. I am not in a acid or java race. I just want something that is good.
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by seven7dust March 18, 2009 11:14 AM PDT
when has IE ever been good ?
by goodspeed8701 March 18, 2009 12:51 PM PDT
just now... and just to let you know IE is better than any other cos it does the work for me. maybe in your case is different but i used it with no probe. incase you hate M$ please take your time and seek deliverance.
by codynews March 17, 2009 5:20 PM PDT
Well I'm using IE8 after switching back from Chrome (trying to not use Google due to their left wing political advocacy), and I still have to admit, Chrome is way better.

Chrome spoiled me. IE8 seems like a big ugly mess (as does firefox). Maybe the final will be better (smaller/cleaner) but I don't see a design change of that size coming.
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by WebBuddha March 17, 2009 8:43 PM PDT
I thought the lack of privacy and hijacking of your intellectual property, or anything you view with their browser or apps was enough of a turn off. I didn't realize their left wing political slant was that skewed. I am definitely done with them and their "Big Brother"-ish nonsense.
by goodspeed8701 March 17, 2009 11:39 PM PDT
can you elaburate how chrome is better? apart from java test or acid. if you can please back up your claims with a link. thank you
by ncalishome March 18, 2009 12:36 AM PDT
@goodspeed8701 His Chrome preference appears to be a subjective one
by t8 March 18, 2009 3:22 PM PDT
@ goodspeed8701.

Chrome is the quickest browser to load, the quickest when changing tabs, and like Safari, you can make tabs their own window and drag them back into the main browser. It is also very fast at rendering web pages and AJAX stuff. The design allows more real estate and is simple and uncluttered compared to other browsers.

Also there is a incognito mode if you are worried about Google recording your movements.

I know when I use another browser they really do feel sluggish in comparison, even including Firefox which use to be my browser of choice.
by Dango517 March 18, 2009 4:39 PM PDT
If you don't want to look at the IE's use the "Full screen" feature. Path is: blue gear>arrow next to blue gear>toolbar>customize> find "Full screen">Add button> close.

Nothing causes me more grief then IE7 and IE8. I'm using the RC of IE8 and the released version of IE7. (OS is Windows Vista Business) I just hope the final release is better then the RC. The IE8 RC is far better then the Beta's of it by a long shot. My IP requires it use.

Ina's your a five star Journalist in my book. Timely content, relevant content, consistently well written and no Bias. It's time to promote Ina Cnet.
by Randysmith843 March 18, 2009 3:40 AM PDT
I was using Mozilla firefox but when Microsoft launched Internet Explorer 7 than i shifted using this one. Now mircosoft has introduced Internet Explorer 8 which got the better features as compared to pervious version.
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by Randysmith843 March 18, 2009 3:41 AM PDT
I was using Mozilla firefox but when Microsoft launched Internet Explorer 7 than i shifted using this one. Now mircosoft has introduced Internet Explorer 8 which got the better features as compared to pervious version.

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