February 25, 2009 9:31 AM PST

Office 14: Worth a wait?

by Ina Fried
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REDMOND, Wash.--Among the many tidbits in Steve Ballmer's talk to financial analysts Tuesday was the fact that folks should not expect the next version of Office, code-named Office 14, to come out this year.

"From a strategy perspective, the next big innovation milestone is Office 14, our next Office release, which will not be this year," Ballmer told the Wall Street crowd. "There's a version of SharePoint. There's a version of Exchange. There's a new version of Office Live."

As it has been with Windows 7, Microsoft has been cagey about when to expect Office 14, though some thought it might yet come out this year. Windows 7 is still expected to come out later this year, in time to be on PCs sold during the holiday shopping season.

With the last update to Office, Office 2007, Microsoft made a lot of changes to the way Office looked, completely changing the user interface and adding the "ribbon" metaphor.

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This time around, the changes are focused in other areas. One of the big changes with Office 14 will be the fact that, in addition to the desktop versions, Microsoft will also be coming out with a set of "Office Web Applications" essentially slimmed-down versions of Word, Excel, PowerPoint, and OneNote that can run via a Web browser. And not just Internet Explorer. Firefox and Safari support will mean that Office, for the first time, will also run on Linux machines as well as Apple's iPhone.

Microsoft has started early testing of both Office 14 and its Web-based parts, but public testing is not expected until later this year. Exchange 14 is also being tested by about 4 million people, though many of them don't even know it. That's because Microsoft's Outlook Live service (formerly known as Exchange Labs) for Live@edu users at tionaeducal institutions is running on an early version of the new Exchange..

As for naming, I'd expect Microsoft to call it Office 2010, based on past naming conventions as well as a few slips of the tongue I heard in some meetings this week.

Speaking of which, I'll have a bunch more posts in the coming days on the making of Office 14, based on a number of in-person meetings with folks here this week.

As a teaser, here's a video of Microsoft's Antoine Leblond talking about some of the thinking that went into Office 14.

During her years at CNET News, Ina Fried has changed beats several times, changed genders once, and covered both of the Pirates of Silicon Valley. These days, most of her attention is focused on Microsoft. E-mail Ina.

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by Super2online February 25, 2009 9:58 AM PST
Frankly I don't expect to see any radical changes to the user interface or features. It would make more sense that the changes mostly amount to a lot of refinement, plus web and phone access.
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by gsmiller88 February 25, 2009 10:07 AM PST
I like how they gave it a "code name" when we all know it'll be called Office 2010.
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by bbabadu February 25, 2009 10:26 AM PST
Uh, using "code names" internally before a product is finalized and launched is fairly common, this process isn't specific to MS.
by john55440 February 25, 2009 10:08 AM PST
I really like Office 2007. My previous version of Office was XP/2002, so I am not one to jump on every upgrade.
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by karpenterskids February 25, 2009 11:19 AM PST
Same here...I love my Office 2007, and don't feel the need to be upgrading every two years.

I'll wait until 2010, and if the features are changed significantly, THEN I'll upgrade.
So kudos to Microsoft for not feeling like they need to push something out this year.
by February 25, 2009 10:35 AM PST
I just hope that they finally fixed bugs from previous editions, including the infamous sequential numbering bug. (and made it easier to switch templates and engage in advanced uses such as creating custom toolbars -- functionalities REMOVED in Office 2007). That would make it worth upgrading but they need to fix the bugs before they worry about the cloud.
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by Mr. Dee February 25, 2009 10:46 AM PST
Ina, were you also holding the camera?
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by The_happy_switcher February 25, 2009 11:00 AM PST
I have noticed at work that with each subsequent MS 'improvement' in the office suites, like Access, the software has gotten harder to do the basic things because the things you normally find up front tend to get buried under all the extra bs that noone uses 95 percent of the time.
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by Vegaman_Dan February 25, 2009 11:36 AM PST
And all of those menus are completely configurable by the end user. They are intuitive and easy to use. The only person holding you back is you.
by The_happy_switcher February 25, 2009 2:05 PM PST
Uh huh. It's my fault. Never mind that the user interface is incredibly unintuitive. A while back I heard the boss swearing up a storm when he was using MS WORD 2007 because he couldn't find anything any more--he was too accustomed to Office 2003.
by topgunb2 February 26, 2009 2:43 AM PST
can you be honest and say that you haven't used office even once and have used mac products only?
by kelmon February 26, 2009 4:26 AM PST
There is quite a lot to like about Office 2007's revised interface but it is definitely true that it is completely different to what came before and that even after using it for the past 2-years I still have to hunt for options occasionally. I'm honestly not convinced that moving menu options to buttons has really made that much of a difference to the accessibility of the applications. Further, in some respects it has made things more difficult. For example, it remains a total mystery why the Properties dialog for a file now appears under the Prepare sub-menu of the Office Button - not exactly intuitive. I also have to agree that Access's interface has become much worse in Office 2007 - why the old Database window was abandoned in favour of the sidebar thing is quite beyond me.

I suspect that the new interface works better for new users than it does to "old dogs". Perhaps I will eventually like it more but after 2-years I honestly have my doubts.

It is perhaps also worth noting that when the Mac Business Unit asked their customers about whether they wanted the Ribbon interface in Office:mac 2008 the answer was "no" and therefore it wasn't implemented. Given that sort of feedback I really don't think that the Ribbon has achieved all that it was supposed to.
by 1812dave February 25, 2009 11:32 AM PST
Some of you here like 2007. Not me! I still use 2003. It loads faster and does everything I need it to do. I've used 2007 and DETESTED it. I removed the trial version off the last 3 PC's I've purchased.
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by jessiethe3rd February 25, 2009 12:06 PM PST
Alas, it does take time to learn but once you get the underline concept you will notice work is a LOT faster.
by inachu February 25, 2009 12:18 PM PST
The only thing I liked in Office 2007 was the self diagnose/repair function.
Everything else was blahhhh
by kelmon February 26, 2009 4:32 AM PST
I can appreciate a desire for the old interface. However, I've gotten far too used to the removal of Excel's 65,000 row limit with 2007 that I cannot go back to the old versions.

@ jessiethe3rd

You may have to accept that people don't want to learn a new interface and that they prefer something familiar. Overall, I do not agree that the new interface makes working any faster but perhaps it works better for you.
by Vegaman_Dan February 25, 2009 11:37 AM PST
I don't have a need to upgrade to a new version of Office. Heck, I don't even upgrade Photoshop anymore. What I have does what I need and all the new features are for things I don't use now or plan to use. It's nice to have new stuff, but unless I actually NEED it, then there is no point in updating.

I'm good with what I have, thanks.
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by Pishkado February 25, 2009 12:28 PM PST
If the browser-based part works with Macs (and Linux) as well as with Windows, I wonder if there will still be the usual one-year delay after the Windows version of an Office release until the Mac version comes out? (If the browser-based part does what I need, I may not care much about the client-resident versions anyhow.)
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by jtjt145 February 25, 2009 1:52 PM PST
Microsoft a word-processor company:
They say Windows O/S and MS Office is the butter and bread of their income.
With the appearance of an ever more competent and on top of that free rival products (OpenOffice, IBM's Smart Suite etc.), which are said to surpass the functionality the average user would ever want, I wonder what new gimmicks MS could possibly add that would entice the average corporation to fork out the considerable extra money it costs to purchase licenses for MS office: a button that makes automatically coffee? Maybe a luscious office assistant trying to read your wishes? A menu option that writes your next presentation automatically?

Lets face it word processors and office applications have become commodities. This is not the early nineties, where where people where hanging on MS's mouth, figuring out what they would do next to trump out Word Perfect. At a time where money is so short that you have to let go some your best employees, because there is not enough work, you don't want to be burdened by the thought how much 'you will be allowed' to pay for yet another regurgitation of their Microsoft's office.

The Microsoft CEO Steve Ballmer is just doing the only thing he is reasonably good at. (Some may argue 'notorious' is the appropriate adjective.) So what is he good at: Market-Square-Screamer.
He is trying to keep MS in the news, hoping against the reality of a falling MS share price, that staying in the news will somehow turn the trend of waning interest in their products. Trying to keep the gravy-train rolling!

Keep screaming bozo. I think your days are numbered.

Arthur
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by codynews February 28, 2009 6:27 AM PST
Yikes, sounds like a lot of hate...

Just because you wish something were true doesn't make it true.
by BtmnHatesRbn February 28, 2009 10:19 AM PST
@codynews:

You are an idiot. jtkt145 wrote the truth. You're the type of person who must still watch the CFR-controlled news and think it's true. If that's the case, you must also own a Blu-Ray player and a PS3, and wonder why everybody else owns a Wii.
by aka_tripleB February 25, 2009 3:02 PM PST
Do enough people really give computers as gifts to warren the need to have software be released right before Christmas? I would think more people (college students, mainly computer majors) would want the latest right before they need it. I know I that it was <em>crap</em> that Office 2003 came out right after I started my freshman year and already bought Office XP. Maybe it's just me though, but I would want to get the latest and greatest right before the school year, not half-way through it.
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by Ralph Doctorow February 28, 2009 8:54 AM PST
If the opportunity arises, it would be nice to know if they are going to integrate the office suite with .NET.

Currently controlling Excel from C#, going through VSTO is kind of a kludge. It would be a whole lot better if they released a real native .NET version.
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by BtmnHatesRbn February 28, 2009 10:17 AM PST
Why bother? With openoffice.org out there, just download it and use it.There's also a bunch of other free Office-like programs and applications all over the place. Visit CNET's own VersionTracker.com and take a look. Why pay for something that should be free?
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