February 19, 2009 12:00 PM PST

Playing around with iPhoto's 'Faces'

by Ina Fried
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Face recognition technology isn't perfect yet.

That's certainly clear when using the "Faces" feature that is built into the recently released iPhoto '09.

Memo to iPhoto: Former colleague Joris Evers may be a great guy, but he's not the Great One.

(Credit: Ina Fried/CNET News)

Sure, the product does reasonably well at finding your friends and family in your photo collection. Tag a few photos by name and iPhoto comes up with other suggestions, often recognizing photos that are taken years apart and with vastly different looks. Heck, iPhoto even spotted me when I was a different gender.

The science behind face recognition is complex and still evolving. In general, face recognition software looks for predictable patterns--characteristics and proportions that stay constant from one photograph to another, things like the distance between the eyes or from the eyes to the mouth.

Even with things where the science is today, having help--any help--with the tedious task of tagging photos is welcome. And iPhoto can certainly find plenty of matches in your library, even if it won't spot them all.

But the real genius part is how Apple has made the process fun, even when the results aren't perfect.

Early speech recognition was also hit or miss, but it was painful to have to scream at a computer while it constantly misunderstood what you were trying to say. With face recognition, at least as built into iPhoto, the goofs are what make it fun.

The software frequently suggested that my contemporary friends and family were actually my 80-something cousin, my 90-something great aunt, or both. iPhoto also confused Bill Gates with our friend's 3-year-old. And among the suggestions for former CNET colleague Joris Evers was a shot of Wayne Gretzky that I had taken at the Hockey Hall of Fame in Toronto.

My favorite, though, was when iPhoto was trying to find other photos of my friend Rachel and included a picture of a lemur from a zoo in Sweden.

To be fair, iPhoto starts off with what seem like sure matches and then tries to loosen things up a bit to find more matches. Often as one gets to the bottom of the list of suggestions there are more misses than hits.

But no matter how far off iPhoto is, it just takes two clicks to tell iPhoto it's off base (and one to confirm the photo is indeed who iPhoto predicted).

The process for tagging photos is somewhat addictive. After confirming a few photos, one can go back to the Faces index page and Apple will come up with more suggestions, seemingly refined by the latest tagging efforts.

I think I would like the Faces feature better if it were more accurate, but I'm not sure. I certainly hope Apple never gets it too perfect. Then I'd have to find something else to harass my friends about.

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During her years at CNET News, Ina Fried has changed beats several times, changed genders once, and covered both of the Pirates of Silicon Valley. These days, most of her attention is focused on Microsoft. E-mail Ina.
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by codynews February 19, 2009 12:28 PM PST
Why all the gender change 'name drops'? It's mentioned twice on this page. Can't you just report on a product or event? Do we need to know about your personal issues?
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by Hep Cat February 19, 2009 1:02 PM PST
Methinks you're the one with "personal issues". Her comment was completely germane to the article.

If Ina's gender identity or the fact that it has changed makes you uncomfortable, I suggest you avoid her articles.
by eyepoker February 19, 2009 1:41 PM PST
I commented similarly in another of his articles though admittedly i wasn't so PC about it. It is genuienly... odd... to read a person talk about it or refer to it when it is not the subject of the article. Cnet/News.com editors must surely realize that it is somewhat shocking. This person just happens to write about a very popular range of topics so what Hep Cat is realy saying is that codynews, myself and others should just leave CNET altogether. What is more realistic is for this person's level of professionalism to be moved up a notch and to stop dropping gender ambiguity into every other article. It cannot be disputed that gender "changing" goes way beyond what society is comfortable with and that injecting it into the public space via technology-related articles is a mis-use of the "voice" that CNet has given this person let alone that it smacks of personal agenda..
by February 19, 2009 1:57 PM PST
She is writing about a software feature which has the purpose to identify people based on how they look. She made a comment that she looks different now because of her gender change, and that the software still identified her. I think that is very relevant and interesting.

If you are uncomfortable or shocked, then that is your problem. Maybe you should consider working it. Ina does not have to hide who she is just to make you or anyone else feel comfortable. She is fine the way she is.
by Zathras7 February 19, 2009 2:29 PM PST
> It cannot be disputed that gender "changing" goes way beyond what society is comfortable with

Stating your opinion as indisputable does not make it true and I don't see how you can have the authority to speak for all of "society" whatever that is. Mid-Atlantic society? North American society? Polynesian society? Which one have you studied and know so well that you can make indisputable pronouncements regarding its comfortableness on changing one's sex? I'm with Hep Cat - I think you're simply making public your own uncomfortableness with what (in my opinion) is now a routine medical procedure.

Frankly, I thought it was rather interesting that the new iPhoto could detect Ina's face as either sex. Rather than being off-topic to subject of the article as you suggest, I considered this an intriguing aspect of the software which I'd not seen raised elsewhere.

By the way, all this is my own opinion. I do not necessarily speak for World Society, or even my local neighborhood - now that's truly indisputable.
by mexic0 February 19, 2009 3:36 PM PST
I didn't count two references to the writer's gender, but then again, nothing in the article seemed out of place, and I am not sensitive to the topic of gender change as you are. Whether you like it or not, there are people whose lives are affected by technology in ways that you may not relate to. For example, as an African American it disturbs me when photographers point to dark skin tones rather than photographic equipment when dark skin tones are not rendered properly. If I were a reviewer of photographic equipment and noted that dark skin tones were not reproduced well, I would most certainly bring that up, whether or not non-African Americans might find that information interesting. If the author's gender change provides a unique perspective on which to review a product, I say by all means, use that perspective to enrich the story..
by imacpwr February 19, 2009 12:50 PM PST
quote: "Heck, iPhoto even spotted me when I was a different gender."

I'm not even going to ask what it was a picture of...!!!

ROFL...!! :)

Ina, you articles never fail to amuse me.
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by Dylan_Wisor February 19, 2009 2:30 PM PST
I always thought that photo of her looked a little strange, but figured that it would be rude to say anything.
While I congratulate you on your openness, maybe a little more... subtlety, is in order? Surely TWO references in a single article (one of them being pretty relevant) is a bit much?

Now to the actual article: I don't care about facial recognition.
by JasonPCallahan February 19, 2009 1:11 PM PST
What I am trying to figure out is why Apple is the first to provide this software as PC based? Why did MS & Google allow Apple to be the first AGAIN while both of them have the technology, they only want to allow it if I upload all my photos... another missed opportunity for MS, another check box for Apple. Newsflash: some of us don't want to upload our entire photo collection!

The article (correctly named 'playing with') indirectly points out the real problem - there is nothing to directly compare this application with. I suppose you could compare their face recognition with Google and MS's online versions just to test the technology.
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by mrguard February 19, 2009 2:01 PM PST
MS live Photo gallery has this feature..check it out: http://download.live.com/photogallery
by JasonPCallahan February 19, 2009 2:48 PM PST
Mrguard - unless I am very wrong they do not have face recognition, they have face detection. I have used their latest version and it will find a face in a photo. I then have to identify it. They have made that easy. but it will not search all my photos and find that same person (face recognition). If you upload from Picasa to PicasaWeb it will do this.
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by DrtyDogg February 19, 2009 5:42 PM PST
It's not much different from iPhoto, just about the same level of interaction is needed. I was really disappointed with iPhotos face recognition, as it failed more than it succeeded.
The differences are minuscule iPhoto, it finds a face, and makes a suggestion, if(big IF) it is right, you click a button otherwise you have to click a few buttons to get it right. Live Photo Gallery it finds a face and you click a button, the only difference is it has less involved the majority of the time.
I paid 80 bucks for an upgrade to iLife, after watching the keynote. Fool me once.
by nashville2 February 20, 2009 6:10 AM PST
Hey, Hep Cat. Don't say, "Me thinks."

Ever.

Unless you're Shakespeare.
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by kdb1976 February 20, 2009 7:54 AM PST
The best for me: faces thought the wrinkle in the leather lounger was my wife's grandmother. Great laugh. Will not be recounting those memories with her though.
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by K--bo April 19, 2009 10:39 PM PDT
Eyepoker,

Can't believe you deign to speak for "society" or at least the family-values society my wife and two young children are part of. Seems like you are the one wound up in "personal agendas", sniping at something that you don't seem ready to tolerate in the open. Ina's reference was certainly central and germane to this review of facial recognition accuracy.

BTW - cool software.
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by mMehdij August 2, 2009 10:48 PM PDT
please tell me about a windows software that work the same as its face recognition.
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