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November 3, 2008 4:00 AM PST

Inside Windows 7's new desktop

by Ina Fried

LOS ANGELES--The differences between Vista and Windows 7 are subtle--sometimes so subtle that they can go unnoticed.

This point was exacerbated by the fact that the build that developers were given a chance to take home last week doesn't have the new taskbar that represents the most visual difference between Windows 7 and today's Vista desktop.

Microsoft went to the trouble of shifting all the computer kiosks at the Professional Developers Conference over to Windows 7 on Tuesday. But because the version lacked some of the key visual features, some attendees didn't even notice they were running the newer Windows.

But Microsoft felt that keeping the user interface features out of the developer build was critical to keeping the features a surprise at the conference. The company's earlier M1, M2, and M3 builds all leaked out, said Chaitanya Sareen, a program manager in the Windows unit.

As the conference was winding down on Thursday, Sareen and another program manager--Rebecca Deutsch--offered an in-depth look at the changes Microsoft made to the desktop as well as the rationale for them. To get the best understanding of the changes, check out the two embedded videos (apologies for the lack of tripod).

The new taskbar is, in many ways, more akin to Mac OS X's dock than it is to what most Windows users have seen at the bottom of their screens for years.

With Vista and all its recent predecessors, there are a host of different icons at the bottom of the screen, with one group representing favorite items, another representing open program windows and a third representing notifications and items that launch at start-up.

Window 7 aims to do away with most of that redundancy in favor of one collection of large icons that live at the bottom of the screen. The icons represent applications chosen by the user and live there whether an application is running or not.

The large icons serve several purposes. The icon can, of course, be used simply to switch to or launch an application. It is also home to what is known as a "jumplist," sort of like a mini start menu for each program that can contain a series of actions, a link to recent documents, or even a series of controls that let a user take an action without switching to the program itself.

"This is the one button to rule them all," Sareen said. A left click opens the windows while a right click or the swipe of a finger on a touch-sensitive machine brings up the jumplist.

When a program is open, the icon also allows a user to preview that application's open windows. Clicking on a thumbnail naturally brings that window to the front. Hovering over the preview, though, temporarily previews that window as if it were in front, but doesn't actually complete the change--a feature Microsoft is calling "Aero Peek."

The idea came as the company tried to solve a riddle: what was the perfect size for a thumbnail window? For things like graphical Web pages or a pair of photos, a small representation might do the trick. But when one is trying to, say, flip between two similar Word documents or e-mails, it gets harder.

"The perfect size of the thumbnail is the actual size of the window," Sareen said. And that's how Aero Peek was born.

The goal with that feature and others, Sareen said, is to find ways to remove some of the things that make computing harder, what he calls "paper cuts." They aren't bugs, so much as things that are needlessly complicated or nonintuitive.

"We kind of went on a war against paper cuts," he said.

The company is also trying to reduce all of those annoying notifications that pop up along the right hand side of the computer. Developers can still write code that makes them appear, Deutsch said, but with each one that pops up, users have the option of disabling all such warnings from that program. The idea is to use social engineering to convince developers to bother the user far less often.

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During her years at CNET News, Ina Fried has changed beats several times, changed genders once, and covered both of the Pirates of Silicon Valley. These days, most of her attention is focused on Microsoft. E-mail Ina.


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by manualfunky November 3, 2008 4:53 AM PST
nice work Microsoft.... you may not lose so much market share this time round... but dont hold your breath!
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by wolivere November 3, 2008 10:53 AM PST
Well the only issue with the comment here, is that Microsoft over all in the OS market increased its market share. And vista trounced OS / X in market share the past year. While all though Linux had a 50% improvement they are still below 1%.
by Penguinisto November 3, 2008 11:29 AM PST
You can twist perceptions, but reality refuses to budge.

Even by the hitslink measurements that you cling to, Windows has been steadily shrinking over the past year, while OSX rises. Don't like it? Deal.

/P
by rapier1 November 3, 2008 12:02 PM PST
Its very true that OS X is increasing their market share. In the past year they gained an additional 2% of the entire market. This is pretty considerable, but its still a relatively minor position at under 9%.
by wolivere November 3, 2008 12:15 PM PST
Pen and Rapier, there is no denying that Apple has increased market share. But as per the links tossed out by some rabid mac fan boys those same links show, that the Majority of those people running on Apple hardware are running an MS operating system at the time they where shown surfing. Now when people buy boot camp they do buy an MS license? Correct?

So although if we use those same links it shows that MS share declined 1.3% over the year although the October numbers show it popped up again. But that aside. It shows MAC market share up .9%

But if you look at the trends.

Apple hardware shown to be running OS declined from 3.28 to 2.27 which does not mean much since they most likley own a license anyhow. But, it shows that MS OS operating on Apple hardware increased from 4.02% to 5.94%

So in the end Microsoft still holds from an OS stand point a greater share then it did at the start.
by Vegaman_Dan November 3, 2008 5:57 PM PST
Penguinisto wrote:

"Even by the hitslink measurements that you cling to, Windows has been steadily shrinking over the past year, while OSX rises. Don't like it? Deal."

I just read that you don't believe OS X has a place in the enterprise or business market, calling it only a 'consumer OS'. Your own words, calling it a consumer OS. You dismissed OS X in the enterprise market, despite that Apple has server products and that the majority of grapics professionals use OS X in their daily jobs. Your exact words:

November 3, 2008 5:01 PM PST

"OSX is a consumer OS"

And here you are complaining about Windows. Don't you ever give up? We all know you hate all things Microsoft, but it's truly amazing the lengths you'll go to slander, yes, slander, a product that you have yourself stated you do not use or support. Even more amazing you can speak with so much authority about an operating system you have never used.

Amazing indeed.

This is classic troll behavior, by the way. This is why you keep being mocked and ridiculed here in case you haven't noticed. People don't believe the BS you spout any longer.
by alflanagan November 3, 2008 5:02 AM PST
Finally, a downside to the popularity of the "Lord Of The Rings" movies. We'll have all sorts of variations like "One button to rule them all". You know, given the paranoia about Microsoft as an Evil Empire, they probably don't want to use that phrase.
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by ferretboy88 November 3, 2008 5:04 AM PST
I will buy it.
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by macboyaus November 3, 2008 5:12 AM PST
Microsoft always have to copy apple they been doing it since 1985. wake up
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by Mark_Anderson November 3, 2008 5:24 AM PST
Sure. Then they do it better and steal all the market share.

Wake up.
by RobertHTX November 3, 2008 5:39 AM PST
Umm... In reality, they have both been stealing from the same sources since 1985... Just ask the unix folks and the Xerox folks.
by ewelch November 3, 2008 6:28 AM PST
Funny how people keep mentioning that meme about Xerox Parc. It's like saying that Macdonald Douglas ripped off the Wright Brothers to build the F-117 Stealth Fighter.
by maverick_nick November 4, 2008 3:48 AM PST
In the words of Bill Gates, "Every car has a steering wheel, but nobody claims it's theirs." My motto... copy and improve. It's progressive innovation. Why reinvent the wheel everytime?
by Fire Balls November 8, 2008 11:47 AM PST
And apple didn't get the idea for a GUI from Xerox?? right.. lol come on people. Yeah I know stuff starts to look the same well instead of complaining about it be happy that users will be able to feel more accustom to the user interface no matter that OS they are on. And while it is similar you have to admit it's not the same and it has more features then the OSX interface. So yeah I agree with Mark_Anderson. They may "copy" but they also improve. So if you want to complain about improvement go ahead I'm not.
by jakemochas November 11, 2008 7:10 AM PST
in 1985, apple stole the idea of a destop' mouse, and the first touch screen.... from my uncle who did research with bill gates!!! so if all you fanboys want to get into a stupid arguement.... microsoft didnt do the first steal
by karpenterskids November 3, 2008 5:12 AM PST
I'm glad to see they're going to tweak the way the OS looks...it's in their best interest, too, seeing as a "Vista 2.0" would be hard to market.
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by etandrib November 3, 2008 5:14 AM PST
Is anyone else unimpressed by these "features"? The only interesting announcement is that Windows 7 uses less memory (RAM). These UI features are uninteresting and bland. If resizing a window is an "experience" to be showcased, I've found the joke of the week.
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by fotostuf_dotmac November 3, 2008 7:26 AM PST
*snore*

What... oh sorry... the article put me to sleep (as did Windows 7!). You were saying...?
by Lerianis November 3, 2008 12:52 PM PST
Guys, what else is there really to add to Windows, OSX or Linux? Really, we have gone as far as we can with the user interfaces, unless we add touch sensitivity and start making more and more screens touch sensitive.
The only thing that are going to be seen, from now on.... small improvements. Fewer screens, more options on one screen, a 'one touch and your done' type of control scheme... basically, stuff like that.

Until we are able to have stuff built into our heads, that funnels the information from our computer DIRECTLY to our heads..... there isn't going to much more large improvements, speaking as a Microsoft fanboy.
by maverick_nick November 4, 2008 3:51 AM PST
Well if you've got any ideas, then feel free to share them, otherwise ****.
by moneyman0793 March 8, 2009 9:15 AM PDT
yeah its not our job to find out what microsoft and apple should do to their opperating systems to keep us interestested. isn't it their job to continue innovation?
by powday November 3, 2008 5:42 AM PST
@etandrib - I agree... except it's not Joke of the Week, but rather, Joke of the Year. The two product managers seem very excited about the most trivial of features. When will these kids learn?
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by wolivere November 3, 2008 10:58 AM PST
Well when will these "Kids" learn. So is MS full of old fogies who don't get the market or are the full of young people who don't get the market?

Wait its the Linux guys who know it all. Lets look 98% market share..... and wait..wait .67% I thought 2007 was suppose to be the Year of Linux on the desktop with Microsoft dropping to less then 50% no that was 2005, or was it 2002, I think it was post Y2K everyone said. Maybe its next year now. I'm not sure ... but these kids here they don't understand...when will they learn to release an OS that the people don't buy? Heck Linux is free and they can't make a dent.
by ballsackfantastic November 3, 2008 5:46 AM PST
Nice OSX rip. A "bigger taskbar"? Yeah it's called a dock.
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by ckurowic November 3, 2008 7:19 AM PST
Redmond start your photocopiers....
by DrtyDogg November 3, 2008 7:18 PM PST
Seriously? It has larger icons, it isn't that big a departure from the taskbar that has been in windows since '95. The taskbar has had a quick launch section, an open programs section and a system tray. If that reminds you of OS X's dock then think about it . . . would it be plausible that the dock is just a taskbar ripoff with bigger icons?
by jessiethe3rd November 5, 2008 9:19 PM PST
You have got to be kidding me. The new taskbar looks nothing like the flippin' dock. I am sitting here running OSX on my Macbook and let me just say the idea of being able to preview window content before actually making the move would be very nice. There are some serious idiots here - total bigots - some very insecure people who spent a lot of money on their Macbook - find Microsoft the easy target because they lead - and then complain about some of the stuipid crap I have ever seen. Get a life.
by MaLvaDo39 November 3, 2008 5:50 AM PST
Wow, what a complete rip off of Apple's OS X dock!

Want to see what Windows will look like in the future? Get a Mac today.
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by fotostuf_dotmac November 3, 2008 7:18 AM PST
And the best line...

"...some attendees didn't even notice they were running the newer Windows."

If you can't tell the difference... there is no difference!
by Jonathan November 3, 2008 8:16 AM PST
But I want my machine to be functional not look pretty. Why would I want to go with an OS that is so bloated that Apple has taken a cycle off to release a "optimized" version.

Oh and I challenge the average person to note the difference between Tiger and Leopard. Ohter then an OMG! Translucent bar, a small set of icon changes, and a wanna be 3D look on the dock its the same OS as 10.4, 10.3, 10.2, and 10.1. Only the fanbois would know the difference.
by wolivere November 3, 2008 11:00 AM PST
I thought Apple got the Dock idea from Acorn's Arthur?
by Lerianis November 3, 2008 12:55 PM PST
Jonathan, exactly right. For all the whining about 'bloat' in Windows Vista.... most of it is drivers, which Microsoft has to include every single driver under the sun for every single hardware item since 1995, or people will ***** at them. All those drivers: 4 GB's, in a XP installation, and MORE in a Vista installation. So that is 4 out of the 9 GB's a Windows XP installation takes, and..... 5, I think, out of the same size Windows Vista installation? Yeah, no bloat really!
by DrtyDogg November 3, 2008 3:59 PM PST
Wow, that doesn't look anything like the dock on my macbook. I wish I could there is one feature I'd like to see added to the dock that the new taskbar does though.
by maverick_nick November 4, 2008 4:24 AM PST
The difference between OSX and Windows. Windows doesn't just look good, but you're actually able to do stuff with it. You can do stuff like extend an application on your PC to multiple remote devices. You've got excellent voice and handwriting recongnition capabilities. Not to mention the host of applications that actually make the world go round - available for Windows only, because real developers invest in real platforms.

When Formula 1, one of the most advanced sports in the world went looking for someone to build the electronic control units (ECU) that manages the car's electronics, did they go to Apple? No the chose Microsoft, and Windows Server 2008 to process the terrabytes of data churned out by the telemetry from the cars. That's just one example of how Microsoft actually works in the real world.
by JuggerNaut November 6, 2008 7:53 PM PST
@Jonathon

"But I want my machine to be functional not look pretty. Why would I want to go with an OS that is so bloated that Apple has taken a cycle off to release a "optimized" version."

Bloated? Uh compared to what, Windows Vista?? You've gotta be kidding me! Windows Vista doesn't hold a candle to Mac OS X Leopard much less its predecessors. I like to get work done and Windows only gets in the way of such a task.
by coryschulz November 7, 2008 12:47 AM PST
"But I want my machine to be functional not look pretty. Why would I want to go with an OS that is so bloated that Apple has taken a cycle off to release a "optimized" version."

It's not really what you would call "bloated". They're just going to be rearranging certain things and reorganizing certain systems. They're going to be doing some updating that can't just be done in regular system updates. Such as moving to a 64 bit kernel, and making Finder cocoa based instead of carbon based. This isn't bloat, it's just large system changes, and most of it will never be noticed by the user, except that the OS will be more stable and run faster. The great genius behind OS X is that it is both highly functional and uniquely beautiful. Also don't forget Grand Central and Open CL!
by ballmerisanape November 3, 2008 6:06 AM PST
Finally. The current task bar is archaic compared to the OsX dock. It will be nice to have that same flexibility in windows. This is not just eye candy.. the ability to create custom "start menus" increases usability. For those of you that are stuck in the "id rather use the terminal" mentality.. computers are no longer designed for people like you.. adapt or die.
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by eferron November 3, 2008 6:21 AM PST
Nice article very well put together.
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by sparrowhyperion November 3, 2008 6:36 AM PST
Eegads... We just get used to Vista and XP, and now they throw this at us. Personally I don't like the system. If I want larger icons, there are ways to do it in XP and Vista. This makes the screen look cluttered and almost toyish. I hope you have the option of turning this ridiculous mess off, or they just lost an Windows 7 customer.. This has got to be the stupidest thing Mickeysloth has come out with since Bob...
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by vincentyu2007 November 3, 2008 6:41 AM PST
About the videos, can't you use some decent equipment, Ina, for Christ sake, you are a Tech reporter! The sound is Terrible...
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by klor5 November 7, 2008 3:30 AM PST
I know! How daft.Go cnet.
by ardsonneveld January 26, 2009 9:15 AM PST
Totally agree. It's just way off Cnet standards. So get this reporting of new stuff right. Or have you bin affected by Windows? :)
by ckurowic November 3, 2008 7:18 AM PST
You guys are ridiculous. Apple didn't STEAL from Xerox, they were licensed the technology. Get a history book.
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by fotostuf_dotmac November 3, 2008 7:24 AM PST
Some choice quotes from Elinor Mills' "Microsoft delivers the goods at PDC 2008""

~ During the keynote on Tuesday, all of the PCs scattered around the convention center for folks to check e-mail on were switched to Windows 7. Not everyone appeared to notice the change, though.

~ "It needs some work as far as usability is concerned," Matthew Firth, chief technology officer of online pet pharmacy PetCareRX, said as he tried to move an image across a touch screen with his hand. "The controls could be more intuitive.

~ "It looks like a re-packaged Vista" with "a little bit of eye candy," said Daniel McGloin, a software engineer at Intuit.

In other words... same old Windows Vista with nothing innovative or new on the horizon!
I try to keep an open mind, but if this is all they have, I'll just have to stick with Mac, even with all it's shortcomings!
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by Lerianis November 3, 2008 1:00 PM PST
Okay: 1. There are going to be problems with the touch sensitivity. But, it's really touch.... move your finger.... WOW! The image moves with your finger! That's about as 'simple' as you can damn well get it!
2. As to not noticing the change.... of course you are not going to 'notice the change' unless you look at how much resources it is using. For f&%^'s sake, they said Windows 7 was NOT going to look very much different from Vista.... so if they say that, why wouldn't it be true!
3. As it being a 'repackaged Vista' with nothing innovative or new..... of course, they aren't going to be able to tell that in 10 minutes. You have to SPEND TIME WITH IT, look UNDER THE HOOD, go through ALL THE MENUS.... like I did when comparing a Mac with a Vista machine at Best Buy..... and decided I like the Vista machine a lot better.
by CDubber November 3, 2008 7:29 AM PST
Windows 7 eh? They should just call it Windows OS X Edition. Much more logical - and honest.

The Freedom to Innovate (TM)
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by Dalkorian November 3, 2008 11:18 AM PST
It would be more honest to call it "Fista SP2 OS X Edition", but I think Apple will have issues with the "OS X" part being in there.
by Mark_Anderson November 3, 2008 1:04 PM PST
Or they could call it "The OS that's going to keep OSX and Linux's combined global market share below 10%".
by Super2online November 3, 2008 7:34 AM PST
By the way, the new Superbar "IS" included in the build given to attendees. Robert McLaws found it and has figured out how to "enable" it for anyone that has it, or has downloaded it from the tons of sites that are now hosting it for download. Check out this article www.windows-now.com/blogs/robert/enable-the-superbar-in-the-windows-7-prebeta.aspx

I laughed myself silly at the assumption that the Superbar is more like Mac than Windows. I invite everyone to look at the bar and show me any similiarity in looks or functionality to the Mac Doc other than it now supports links to apps that aren't running.

This is simply a ploy by design by Ina to get everyone all churned up, angry, and commenting to the max to improve her viewership and interaction. And unfortunately, your all falling fo rit. The features set of the Superbar includes improvements to the usabilty of icon buttons in the taskbar, how they interact with apps and previewing, removal of the quick launch area, improvements to how the apps can snap into place to facilitate specific uses, lock down of the system tray and so forth. These improvements are certainly useful and desired, but by no means does it mean that Microsoft has somone gone to being more like the Mac than Windows when comparing the Apple Doc to the Windows Superbar.

I predict Windows users will flock to this OS, and Mac users have nothing to worry about. Folks the whole coping issue is a dead one, get over it. There are only so many ways to interact with computers just like there are only so many ways to drive a car. My point is that you will see many many many similarites in ALL cars and ALL computers, and ALL OS's and ALL apps. The list goes on and on and on. Move on to something that makes sense to worry about.

Who ever made the decision to move Sinofsky and team over to Windows has made the right one. Windows XP users will now be able to upgrade to something they really want as soon as this OS is released. Microsoft does make mistakes just like all other companies, but the one thing I have learned over the years is that it does not take them long to get back on track. One OS version later we have a much improved OS that will allow mega millions of users who have invested in the Microsoft ecosystem of applications to move forward rapidly.
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by jessiethe3rd November 5, 2008 9:33 PM PST
About time someone talked some sense...
by coryschulz November 7, 2008 12:55 AM PST
"There are only so many ways to interact with computers "

The thing is though, that Apple seems to get there first, and they seem to get the user interaction "just right" and they seem to do a better job at it. Then, other companies come along and see what improvements they've made, they decide that these improvements are a logical step forward, and the only way they can compete with Apple is to try and implement the same features and then invest in a bunch of marketing.

I agree that OS X users have nothing to worry about. I'm sure Apples' halo effect will continue to draw more people to their machines and MS will continue to misunderstand their customers. On top of that, Ballmer is a complete idiot and has no original or clear vision for his company.
by Jonathan November 3, 2008 7:34 AM PST
The difference between this and OS X's dock? This doesn't suck ***. I'm serious. I still get windows that jump behind the dock all the time. I still have the downloads or Document folder fake to the left or right when I expand the view and move my mouse up making for some fun trying to hit a file with my cursor. The dock with maximized windows still takes up too much space by default. Seriously why do you have about 6" of room on each side of the dock. Windows has the start menu, task bar, quick launch bar, the notification area. There is A LOT of functionality compressed across that intire half inch high area on the screen. IMHO, because obviously its a personal opinion for everyone, the dock wastes a TON of space. I mean yes you can load up quick launch items there. But if you do that to utilize the entire damn screen you then get a minimizing effect the more apps you launch because the dock keeps shrinking to try and fit everything onscreen.
No there are things that Apple has gotten right. There are things that MS has gotten right. Hell there are things that Linux has gotten way right. But in this case I consider MS's taskbar the best of breed.
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by Canberra-photographer November 3, 2008 7:35 AM PST
Wow, chunky task bar... I guess it will compliment everything else they ripped of Mac OS.
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by Goodbye Helicopter November 3, 2008 7:48 AM PST
Hmm... not only a bad copy of the OS X Dock,
but Aero Peek???
Hello?!?! That's a copy of Quick Look!!!
MS has a Mac running Leopard.
That's how Aero Peek was born.

Why do they always have to copy and try to pretend they didn't?
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by Jonathan November 3, 2008 8:13 AM PST
Goodbye Helicopter,

You sir are full of crap. Quick look doesn't look at apps. Go shove your nose back up Steve butt where it belongs. Oh and as I stated before with my list....this crush's Apple half ***ed dock that was an afterthought for the OS since day one and they have done NOTHING with it since. The space is completely wasted with the dock. Apple has had 8 years to actually do something with the extra space there instead we load up quick launch icons and then watch as the dock gets smaller and smaller and smaller as we launch apps on top of that. Crap design that the fanbois will NEVER admit to. Instead the keep touting the party line as the OS gets buggier and buggier. Why do you think Apple annoiunced Snow Leopard won't contain many new feature and will be an "optimization" build. Its because they have to clean up 8 years of mess that has accumulated under the hood. Only two more weeks on my MBP before someone is buying it then I'm free. 3 years on this OS has made me understand just how good windows has been to me. It has its quirks, as does OS X, something I'm learned all too frequently, but at least in Windows I don't have to struggle with the OS to make it my own. The entire OS X experience has boiled down to: This is the way we do things and that is all there is to it. Sure you have some third party hackies to customize OS X. But this was why I went OS X to begin with. To try and get away from needing to tweak the crap out of the OS. In Windows case it was for security. In OS X's case its for customization. So at the end of the day its a toss up and if Apple and their fanbois are going to continue to be snobs who think their crap smells better then everyone else's, clue: it doesn't!, then I don't need to support such behavior. Screw you Apple and you damn form over function attitude. I don't need a supermodel for a computer. Out.
by rapier1 November 3, 2008 8:14 AM PST
Quick look, are you ouit of your mind?
Quick look is entirely different.
Do you even own a Mac?
by jakemochas November 11, 2008 7:16 AM PST
get your facts striaght please!!!!
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