July 18, 2009 9:43 AM PDT

Oracle raises software prices (again)

by Dave Rosenberg
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Oracle: Kings of pricing

Oracle: Kings of pricing.

One year after raising many prices by 20 percent or more, Oracle is once again raising prices--by 40 percent for certain products.

Interestingly, the products receiving the big price bumps are not the core database or application servers, but instead the administrative tools used for monitoring and compliance.

I'd certainly like to say this is price gouging, but really it is just smart business. Oracle knows database sales can't grow forever and that customers will sooner or later need to have additional tooling. Strategically, it's much smarter to price non-core components higher to ensure consistent adoption and cash flow of the primary product line.

This does introduce a few strategy questions related to the impending Sun acquisition--namely, how does Oracle price MySQL and its related packages, and will the existing tools work with MySQL or will customers running both be forced to buy two sets of tools? And will MySQL users be comfortable with Oracle changing pricing policies?

Pricing changes are common across all software companies, but open-source companies like MySQL have generally stuck to simple models to keep the costs of sales low and volumes high.

The big question is if Oracle owning MySQL helps customers. There are no doubt scenarios in which it will be convenient to buy and be supported from one source (the mythical "one throat to choke"), but it's hard to see how the hands-on approach of Oracle sales jives with MySQL's adoption to sales conversion process.

As a side note, if you think the GPL and open-source licensing is confusing, take a gander at Oracle's Application Licensing Table (PDF), which seems straightforward until you need to use a non-vanilla installation.

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Dave Rosenberg dishes up "Software, Interrupted" with nearly 15 years of technology and marketing experience that spans from Bell Labs to multiple start-up IPOs to open-source enterprise software companies. He is co-founder of MuleSource and currently serves as the general manager of Hardy Way. He is a member of the CNET Blog Network and is not an employee of CNET. Disclosure. You can contact Dave via e-mail at softwareinterrupted@gmail.com or follow him on Twitter @daveofdoom.
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by CTO_Dude July 18, 2009 10:59 AM PDT
Only Oracle could get away with adding no additional value during a price increase. At least other companies add something to the pot before they bump up the license cost.
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by daverosenberg July 18, 2009 12:24 PM PDT
Very true. Goes to show you the power of dominating a market.
by arcanus2 July 19, 2009 6:16 AM PDT
Agreed, dude.
by jessiethe3rd July 18, 2009 12:37 PM PDT
I always find it interesting that people do not consider even SQL as a solution when implementing an application. Microsoft has not raised its pricing on SQL yet and probably will not.
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by dargon19888 July 18, 2009 8:17 PM PDT
Hmmm.
Maybe because SQLServer only works on a Microsoft platform and not Linux/Unix/Mac etc ... ;-)
by jessiethe3rd July 19, 2009 12:09 AM PDT
Hmmm.
Mac would not be part of this picture because no Enterprise DB worth mentioning runs on the Mac platform. Unix is dead and dying leaving Linux... Windows vs. Linux - the old classic fight.
by Shecky1971 July 20, 2009 8:32 AM PDT
Wow... comparing SQL to Oracle... The phrase: "You get what you pay for" works both ways. SQL is (still) not enterprise scalable and I don't care who MSFT pays to say otherwise.
by gggg sssss July 20, 2009 5:00 PM PDT
@ Shecky1971 you hav ebeen reading to many Oracle funded white papers.
by yacahuma July 18, 2009 12:43 PM PDT
MS SQL, jajajaja. Only a fool will depend on MS platform for their servers. Unix all the way. Leave MS on the desktop where it belongs.
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by walletless July 18, 2009 1:29 PM PDT
You will be surprised how well SQL performs for most small and medium business needs. SQL is also relatively easier to manager and you do not need a full team of DBAs to administer it. In the end, the solution is slightly more expensive as far as licensing is concerned (windows server, sql server CLA), but you save money compared to Oracle in both these areas.

I don't think businesses make decision based on their biases for companies (i.e. Microsoft = Crap, UNIX FTW) - they make decisions based on how well a product serves it present and future needs.

I have worked in a WMS (Warehouse management software) company in the past, and when I joined the company, I had similar biases like yacahuma. I was very much surprised when I went to client sites to find that more than 60% of our clients preferred to run SQL rather than Oracle even though all our software were compatible with both DBs and our sales team did not bias one way or the other!

Anyway, this article is not about databases, since it seems that Oracle has not increased the price for that anyway. In ERP world, Oracle is the king, and it makes sense that they can get away with increasing prices on administration software for ERP markets.
by jessiethe3rd July 18, 2009 2:16 PM PDT
jajajaja? Um NASDAQ as well as highly regarded companies in the enterprise space run SQL Server. As a matter of fact Shell Corporation, Chevron, and several other large multi-national companies run SQL server under SAP. Unix? What's that?
by daverosenberg July 18, 2009 2:47 PM PDT
SQL server is not a bad database. The challenge is more with scale and management.
by codynews July 19, 2009 9:46 AM PDT
Jessie: Unix is an old OS from the 50's that some kids think is cool because MS is too close to being the proverbial "man"

And ditto your "jajaja?" reply. I think the poster was just trying to be funny by "laughing" in another language... Seeing that English is the proverbial "man" of langues. :)

Cody
by martin1212 July 19, 2009 10:39 AM PDT
@codynews, the first version of UNIX was developed in 1969.
by gggg sssss July 20, 2009 5:04 PM PDT
@ martin1212 so 1969 is what you callmodern times? I dont think even teh comodore 64 was out then.
by jessiethe3rd July 18, 2009 2:27 PM PDT
I might add here that if it wasn't companies like Microsoft getting into Oracle's market (acquiring Great Plains, etc within Dynamics) I think it would go to show how rampant Oracle would be with it's pricing schemes (even more so.) In the Enterprise space Microsoft has offered a low cost option for customers to consider.
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by Seaspray0 July 19, 2009 7:41 PM PDT
Even so, I would like to see MySQL stay open source and free. There's nothing like competition to keep prices down and MySQL is competition. Our company uses MS SQL, but the fact that MySQL is out there is probably keeping the price down.
by gggg sssss July 20, 2009 5:07 PM PDT
Agreed - started managing an oracle/xenix based system in 1990, theSCO took over Xenix and doubled the price - wanted $1000 just to provide a tcp/ip layer for an X86 based operating system, and oracle wanted to double the cost of seats, so moving to Access on Windows for workgroups was a no brainer. That application is now web based on MS SQL and never been happier
by ashokkali July 18, 2009 3:02 PM PDT
Unfortunately you can only demand so much. The company I work for is already feeling the pinch and trying to negotiate with oracle. However, they are not budging. We have realized that they have the dominance and are looking to move away from Oracle. Necessity to preserve capital is driving us away these so called dominant players.

In database you can already find cheap databases that doesn't require so much optimization or gb handling as most of the databases are not sophisticated or big.

Yes, they are big in apps market. Soon they realize that others are catching. Then what.

On one hand, Oracle Middleware (Fusion) they are trying to put their foot into the door on the other hand they are playing this dominance game. People do realize that if they give dominance to oracle that they are toast.

Good luck to Oracle in the future.
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by ashokkali July 18, 2009 3:02 PM PDT
Unfortunately you can only demand so much. The company I work for is already feeling the pinch and trying to negotiate with oracle. However, they are not budging. We have realized that they have the dominance and are looking to move away from Oracle. Necessity to preserve capital is driving us away these so called dominant players.

In database you can already find cheap databases that doesn't require so much optimization or gb handling as most of the databases are not sophisticated or big.

Yes, they are big in apps market. Soon they realize that others are catching. Then what.

On one hand, Oracle Middleware (Fusion) they are trying to put their foot into the door on the other hand they are playing this dominance game. People do realize that if they give dominance to oracle that they are toast.

Good luck to Oracle in the future.
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by driven01 July 19, 2009 11:33 AM PDT
Another option: Sybase. Either their Adapter Server Enterprise, or SQL Anywhere. ASE blows Oracle and SQL Server away (IMHO). SQL Anywhere has built in syncronization technology that would be much more difficult to implement on MS or Oracle. AND ... it's cross platform.
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by gggg sssss July 20, 2009 5:15 PM PDT
SQL Anywhere just blows. End oif sentence
by David Gerard July 22, 2009 9:40 AM PDT
uh ... Sybase and MS SQL share a codebase. They're largely comparable.
by fazalmajid July 19, 2009 11:51 PM PDT
PostgreSQL is a perfectly adequate and free alternative to Oracle for databases up to a couple hundred gigabytes in size.
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by ssaikia July 20, 2009 5:24 AM PDT
PRICING , MARKET LEADERSHIP & INNOVATION

Oracle, relative to more nimble competitors, has slowed down product innovation. For the last 5 years Oracle has resorted to business-model innovation. The essence of Oracle's business model innovation is "buy a mature company (e.g., Hyperion) and live off its maintenance" and "buy a struggling small company (e.g. Demantra) and use Oracle's sales army to sell more licenses." Raising prices is another step in the business model.

Customers have more choice these days - open source (Compiere for ERP, SugarCRM for CRM etc.), SAAS (e.g., Netsuite for ERP, Salesforce.com for CRM etc.) with more options in cloud computing (which enable the tieing together of services from unlimited vendors). Increased choices will lead to lower actualy prices for customers.
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by adn2009 July 20, 2009 1:38 PM PDT
@ssaikia. Good points. It is true that companies the size of Oracle have not been doing much in terms of product innovation, and rather focusing on acquisitions. In fact, if you look at the smaller players, such as QlikTech which are using product innovation to win market share, there seems to be a growing divide between the incumbent and the ?up-and-comers? who are actually winning market share in the space and growing revenues at a fast pace. We've focused on adding cool new functionality (mobile clients, cloud delivery, etc.) while not raising prices.

The scary thing about Oracle raising prices is that it might just work. In the short term, they will likely drive revenue -- especially valuable to them in today's economy. But I believe that the longer term vision of innovating new products and delivery mechanisms will eventually win out. We've seen this movie before... the disruptive technology innovation takes a while to gain momentum, but once it does, there is no stopping it.

- Anthony Deighton, QlikTech (www.qlikview.com)
by YankeePoodle July 20, 2009 7:58 AM PDT
For all the Java fanboys have created about Microsoft .Net, I really relish this moment, what the new overlords are going to do with Java.
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by gggg sssss July 20, 2009 5:16 PM PDT
ROTFLMAO
by nazzdeq July 20, 2009 8:10 AM PDT
I recommend Postgres Plus Advanced Server from www.enterprisedb.com They have duplicated 90% of Oracle's syntax & core functionality that works out of the box. PL/SQL, DUAL table, Oracle catalog views, dbms_output,utl_file, etc. are all there. This makes porting away from Oracle much easier, not to mention economical.
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by almhagr2000 July 26, 2009 1:41 AM PDT
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