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October 15, 2009 6:41 AM PDT

Get a Logitech Harmony One remote for $150

by Rick Broida
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CNET calls the Logitech Harmony One "arguably the best consumer remote control currently available," and I agree. I've owned one for nearly two years, and it's without a doubt my favorite remote ever.

Alas, Logitech still sells it for $249, same as when it debuted in early 2008. But if you're willing to go the refurb route, you can get the Harmony One for $149.99 shipped from CompUSA.

For those not familiar with the Harmony line, its claim to fame is a simple, Web-based interface for setting up your devices, programming "activities" (a.k.a. macros), and so on.

This particular model features a color touch screen, a perfect button layout, and a docking station for keeping its rechargeable battery topped off.

CNET's review (and the above video) should tell you everything you need to know about the Harmony One. For what it's worth, a handful of CompUSA customers rated it 5 stars on average, while some 800 Amazon buyers rated it 4.5 stars. Needless to say, it's a winner.

Because it's a refurb, the warranty expires after 90 days. I have no problem with that; usually, a product like this either works or it doesn't. My 2-year-old One has been dropped, kicked, abused by children, and more, and it's still plugging along just fine.

Thus, if you're in the market for the ultimate universal remote, this is the best deal I've seen yet. (If you know of a better one, be sure to mention it in the comments!)

Rick Broida, a technology writer for nearly 20 years, is the author of more than a dozen books. In addition to writing CNET's The Cheapskate blog, he oversees BNET's Business Hacks. Rick is a member of the CNET Blog Network and is not an employee of CBS Interactive. Disclosure. Deals found on The Cheapskate are subject to availability, expiration, and other terms determined by sellers. Follow Rick on Twitter at cheapskateblog.
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by DetJMunch October 15, 2009 7:03 AM PDT
Anyway for this remote to control a PC as well? I have a computer hooked up to my TV and I would like a remote that can also do simple commands on the PC. Just keyboard stuff, nothing fancy. Any options out there?
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by rickbroida October 15, 2009 7:59 AM PDT
My Harmony works like a charm with my Windows Media Center PC (which drives my home theater, FYI), but the latter already has an IR receiver built in. I think that's what you'd need for it to work.
by TreknologyNet October 15, 2009 5:06 PM PDT
Logitech produce an IR receiver USB with an IR remote (not sure of the model). Otherwise find an IR keyboard, and train the remote with the keystrokes that you require.

I have a Sunwave SRC-3000b which is fully touch LCD (no buttons). It is fully trainable, and also includes a programming port 1/8" jack socket, but no connector or instructions, so it may only be a factory setup feature. It allows 8 individual devices, and has 2 pages for each device, "button" layout and labels automatically change with each device, and it is possible to customize by turning extra buttons "on" or unused ones "off", and you can also vary which of the labels is displayed on that "button". It sits by itself with a blank screen and activates when you pick it up. If it's dark, it also illuminates a blue background. Runs on 3 * AAA batteries. I'm not sure how long it retains its "training" if left with flat batteries, but it certainly retains long enough for a battery change.

There is a move towards "blue tooth" RF controllers, but that would mean that a "Universal" remote would have to learn multiple frequencies as well as the control signals. As far as directionality is concerned, my Sunwave emits a bright enough signal that I don't have to be highly accurate in pointing it. It's quite robust, but being a full-faced LCD, I don't think it would be a great idea to have a child step on it.
by AlbanyHDTV October 15, 2009 7:33 AM PDT
While this is a fantastic remote, it does not control devices via RF, only IR. The Harmony 900 is basically the One + RF control.
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by DetJMunch October 15, 2009 7:34 AM PDT
Forgive me if this is a stupid question, but what is the difference bewtween RF and IR? Why do I care if it has RF? Do I need RF to control a computer?
by AlbanyHDTV October 15, 2009 8:12 AM PDT
RF = radio frequency
IR = Infra red

I have my compnonets in a cabinet, out of sight and use the Harmony 890 with RF control. No line of sight is needed to control the devices, since a radio frequency is used.

With an IR remote, you need to have line of sight to the devices and must point the remote (and keep it pointed) at the devices when attempting to operate them.
by a3th3r October 15, 2009 8:25 AM PDT
IR is Infrared and is used to control most consume electronics (TVs, Radios, etc) but requires direct line of sight (though can reflect off of some surfaces.) RF is radio frequency, does not require direct line of sight but is subject to interference.

Typically a remote that supports RF will have an RF receiver with a IR repeater. The receiver will pick up the RF signal and repeat it as an IR signal. This is particularly useful if the device you wish to control is hidden or in another room.
by Renegade Knight October 15, 2009 9:48 AM PDT
@ DetJMunch

Short answer. If your AV device uses RF for its remote your Harmony can't control it (without an expensive dongle that converts IR to RF). Simple example. The PS3 uses Blutooth for it's remote. Thats RF. I use a PS3 as my main media player. I'm stuck until these remotes support RF.
by October 15, 2009 10:05 AM PDT
You can use this with the PS3 if you buy the PS3 adapter from Harmony also, it was released earlier this year.
by phuongnwade October 15, 2009 7:44 AM PDT
Rick Amazon, has a new one for $189, so the $149 for the refurb is only $40 off, not that great a deal on a refurb.
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by rickbroida October 15, 2009 8:01 AM PDT
I respectfully disagree. This is a pretty pricey remote already. What's "only $40" to you is "Hey, $40!" to me. :)
by Nychocolips October 15, 2009 8:53 AM PDT
Ic an do a lot with $40.
by Mr_fleabite October 15, 2009 10:16 AM PDT
Any cheapskate worth his salt can see the value in $40.
by charleyli October 19, 2009 1:27 PM PDT
I should have checked comments here first before I ordered. By the time I ordered the unit and add to it the 12-month warranty, it is about $187. I would have gone with the new one on Amazon.

On the other hand, I have 3 more months of warranty. :)
Nevertheless, I enjoy reading this blog daily. Thanks!
by beefmalone October 15, 2009 8:01 AM PDT
You can add an extra 12 months of warranty (15mos total) for only $25 so you still end up saving $15 vs Amazon.
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by rickbroida October 15, 2009 8:35 AM PDT
Great point!
by rickbroida October 15, 2009 8:35 AM PDT
Sorry about the busted video, everyone. The IT guys are looking into it...
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by nathanpinno October 15, 2009 9:18 AM PDT
This looks like a great option for me. I'm considering combining it with the UIRT (Google it) and a good program when I build my ultimate HTPC.
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by cdpetch October 15, 2009 9:59 AM PDT
I bought an expensive high tech Logitech Remote and found incomprehensible for me to program. I had to dispose of it without use. I trust the newer one is simplifited. I found the $25 Sony 8 system remote is easy to use and controls my 4 TV devices (I need 3 things to work at once, the TV, The Cable HD box and my Sterio, all of which the Sony remote VL600 can swtch on all in one click. 2009 Logitech might be great, but it was too deep for me.
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by ma_ne27 October 15, 2009 10:04 AM PDT
@ Renegade Knight

There are now adapters for the Harmony remotes that will allow them to work with the PS3.
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by MyTThor October 15, 2009 10:04 AM PDT
I bought this same remote on Amazon for 150 new a couple months ago. However, this is still a great deal and I share Rick's assessment of the "work or not work" performance of something like this, so the refurb isn't an issue. As far as programming, I've been using a logitech starting with the Xbox360 version about 4 years ago, and the programming couldn't be simpler. Even easier than the standard "put in the code" on cheaper universal remotes. I like this one also because it's rechargeable and so doesn't eat batteries.
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by dratner October 15, 2009 10:08 AM PDT
I have my second Harmony remote (different model). The first one overheated and failed within a year.
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by Lukehart October 15, 2009 10:20 AM PDT
I'm also waiting for an RF-capable unit (Harmony One point Two?) from the fine folks at Logitech. The whole reason to get this is to have ONE remote, right? The Harmony One won't run my DirecTV HD DVR except in IR, which is much slower responding than RF -- nor can it run my RF-based Sony PS3. I looked into RF-to-IR converters, but couldn't find a workable solution. So I've decided to wait for the simpler option to arrive. Logitech, are you listening? I keep hoping you'll announce something, and Christmas is just around the corner!
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by olatte October 15, 2009 10:29 AM PDT
not as great i'm sure, but i did see in costco yesterday a shipment of Logitech 880 remotes for $97.99 each. Maybe a better idea not to go over the 100 dollar line for a non RF remote solution.
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by larrymcg October 15, 2009 10:52 AM PDT
I have a totally programmable Harmony remote and it works fine. Except that IF something goes wrong it can be difficult to get the remote and the devices it controls back in sync. For example, if I forget to open the door in front of the TV and then push the remote button to "Watch TV" (turns on TV, selects proper TV input, turns on Yamaha receiver and selects proper inputs and outputs, and......) everything turns on except the TV. So then I then open the door in front of the TV but I have no easy way to turn the TV on and select the proper input. The natural step is to push OFF which turns off the Receiver and attempts to turn off the TV but it has a power toggle so it turns ON. I can manually turn off the TV and pushing "Watch TV" will get everything ON correctly but the TV will have the incorrect input selected. I usually resort to one of the individual remotes to straighten things out but my wife can never figure it out.
So, when it works it works fine. When something messes up, it's a nightmare!
--Larry
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by abranyiczky October 15, 2009 12:49 PM PDT
I can't remember what version of Logitech Harmony remote i have, however, if something similar happens (i.e. one of the components doesn't turn on), i have a "Help" button (right above the LCD screen) that I can use to "re-try" to turn on the one component that didn't turn on with all the others. In fact, pressing the Help button (and pointing the remote towards all the component) will walk you through a step by step signal "resending" process asking you, "is the tv on?" yes/no (press button as per the LCD screen's instruction), etc... and then turning on whatever needs to be turned on. Do you have this "Help" button?
by ryes October 15, 2009 11:58 AM PDT
I love my Harmony One but be warned: after 1 1/2 yrs of use, the buttons, particularly the 'menu' and 'info' are beginning to stick, and others are not clicking correctly. Out of warranty, of course.
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by applebyte201 October 15, 2009 12:29 PM PDT
Hey Rick, Just thought I'd mention the $159.99 1080p Monitor from Tiger Direct
(http://news.cnet.com/8301-13845_3-10370692-58.html) was back yesterday afternoon, but already gone.
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by iradi8 October 15, 2009 12:37 PM PDT
Cheapskate alert?!? PLEASE, I don't care how nice it is, a universal remote control is NEVER going to be worth over a $100 to me, NEW. Refurbed it should be $50 or less! Seriously how is this thing a cheapskate alert?
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by ryes October 15, 2009 1:39 PM PDT
I love my Harmony One but be warned: after 1 1/2 yrs of use, the buttons, particularly the 'menu' and 'info' are beginning to stick, and others are not clicking correctly. Out of warranty, of course.
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by COMMANDERMJB October 15, 2009 8:00 PM PDT
Have a FREE Drawing for something once in a while and you might get more readers like me!!! And the product is Great ,,Had no problems with it and easy to install codes and such to work devices..2 thumbs up...
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by COMMANDERMJB October 15, 2009 8:02 PM PDT
I like the Product but would
like to see a grandprize offered at this sight once in a while so we can get more readers...
Thanks,
Mike
COMMANDERMJB
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