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August 12, 2009 5:46 AM PDT

A quad-core, Blu-ray, Windows 7 desktop for $650

by Rick Broida
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Quad-core? Check. Blu-ray? Check. Free Windows 7 upgrade? Check!

(Credit: HP)

Update: Sorry, folks, looks like the discount code has expired.

If you're in the market for a new desktop that's equally well-suited to games and movies, HP has a ridiculously good deal going. It's the HP Pavilion Elite e9110t, which you can get for $649.99 shipped after a few configuration tweaks and a coupon code.

The tiger in the tank, Intel's 2.33GHz Core 2 Quad Q8200 processor, roars along with 6GB of RAM, a 500GB hard drive, and a 512MB GeForce G210 video card. Those are some kick-ass specs.

Other highlights: a Blu-ray drive with LightScribe-DVD capabilities, an 802.11n Wi-Fi adapter, and a 15-month subscription to Norton Internet Security 2009 (aka the good version).

Perhaps best of all, the system comes with Windows Vista Home Premium but is eligible for a free Windows 7 Home Premium upgrade come October 22.

By the way, this is a new Pavilion, not a refurb, so you get HP's full one-year warranty. Here's how to put it all together, courtesy of DealNews:

  1. Ctrl-click this link to open the product page in a new tab.
  2. Click the Customize & Buy button next to the $649.99 option.
  3. Click the Memory option and choose the free 6GB upgrade.
  4. Click the Primary CD/DVD Drive option and choose the Blu-ray player.
  5. Click the Networking option and choose the Wireless-N LAN card and external modem.
  6. Click Review & Buy, then apply coupon code DTM4558.

Presto! That should get you out the door for $649.99. In an ideal world, this system would also have a TV tuner (which you can add for $80), but it's still one of the best desktop deals I've ever seen.

HP's various discounts on this system end Aug. 15, so you've got a little time if you want to shop around. I'll be mighty surprised if you can find a better configuration for the money.

Rick Broida, a technology writer for nearly 20 years, is the author of more than a dozen books. In addition to writing CNET's The Cheapskate blog, he oversees BNET's Business Hacks. Rick is a member of the CNET Blog Network and is not an employee of CBS Interactive. Disclosure. Deals found on The Cheapskate are subject to availability, expiration, and other terms determined by sellers. Follow Rick on Twitter at cheapskateblog.

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by yoyojam55 August 12, 2009 6:32 AM PDT
Why would you get this when you can get the editors choice Gateway for $500 and just add a Blu-Ray drive? It would be about $150 cheaper. You wouldn't get the discrete graphics, but the GPU in this machine is horrible so you can't do any gaming on it anyway. Other than that the specs are basically the same.
http://reviews.cnet.com/desktops/gateway-sx2800-01/4505-3118_7-33699400.html?tag=contentMain;contentBody
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by oRADoTREV August 13, 2009 1:32 PM PDT
Why would you even get that if you can get a Mac Mac Mac Mac Mac Mac Mac Mac Mac Mac Mac Mac Mac Mac Mac Mac Mac Mac Mac Mac Mac Mac Mac Mac Mac Mac Mac Mac Mac Mac Mac Mac Mac Mac Mac Mac Mac Mac Mac Mac Mac Mac Mac Mac Mac Mac Mac Mac Mac Mac Mac Mac Mac Mac Mac Mac Mac Mac Mac Mac Mac Mac Mac Mac Mac Mac Mac Mac Mac Mac. You pay for what you get.
by C433Z August 13, 2009 1:40 PM PDT
exactly, do what you said and stick an HD4870 in it with that $150 you have leftover.
by Seaspray0 August 14, 2009 7:08 AM PDT
@oRADoTREV. Shall we do a side by side comparison then? I pick this computer. I'll let you pick any mac (new, not refurb) to compare against it. My specs are listed above. Lets see yours.
by SeizeCTRL August 15, 2009 12:23 PM PDT
oh now oRaD... you are just being plain silly! everyone knows you can't get a Mac with BluRay under $700 Heck, I don't even think you can get a Mac under $800 or $900 other than that itsy bitsy tinsy winsy underpowered overpriced Mac Mini, but still, you can keep on dreaming.
by DetJMunch August 12, 2009 6:38 AM PDT
How does this HP tower compare the previous one you posted, the gaming one that you highlighted twice? Thanks!
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by yoyojam55 August 12, 2009 6:52 AM PDT
The CPU is much faster in this one, so day to day activities will be a lot faster. However the other one had a much faster graphics card. The one in this one will suck for any kind of gaming. I still say go for the desktop I listed about which goes for $450 and has the same fast CPU. Add a Blu-Ray drive like the ones Rick has posted in the past for ~$60 and you just saved a ton of money.
by rickbroida August 12, 2009 7:24 AM PDT
@DetJMunch: This one's very similar, but with a slightly smaller hard drive and no TV tuner. It's new, not a refurb, and you get a Blu-ray drive (which some people would definitely prefer to a tuner).

Although I had some initial grief with my HP, ultimately it's been a terrific system.
by CornerStone__ August 12, 2009 6:39 AM PDT
Um... the Coupon code didn't work for me. I agree it's a good deal, but much better deals are to, build yourself, get a refurb from dell (got an i7 for 600), or guys like these: http://www.cyberpowerpc.com/system/Mega_Special_III/ who have terrible customer service but make decent systems.
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by rickbroida August 12, 2009 7:22 AM PDT
I tried the coupon code and it worked. Are you sure you followed the configuration instructions exactly? I think you have to get the system total up to $999.99 ($799.99 with the automatically applied instant rebate) to use the code.
by CornerStone__ August 12, 2009 11:52 AM PDT
Yea sorry Rick, it did work after I followed instructions exactly. I didn't want the external modem with the wlan, that saved over $100 though. thanks for the consistent great work.
by FDCROSS3853 August 13, 2009 12:46 PM PDT
I tried too! Configured to $999.99 less $200 PC instant rebate. Tried the DTM 4558 coupon code reply was invalid code! Any ideas?
by shellcodes_coder August 12, 2009 7:27 AM PDT
Comes no where near to my DELL XPS H2C desktop :)
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by TechnoMan475392 August 13, 2009 10:58 AM PDT
Lucky duck.
by ThomasPic August 12, 2009 7:49 AM PDT
I tried putting this together just for the hell of it and I was able to apply the coupon and bring it down to $649.99, just like you said. So I can confirm that the coupon works and that this system looks nice for $650.
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by jamostew August 12, 2009 8:11 AM PDT
This is a criticism of HP and its software partners (not Rick), but I bought an HP with a Bluray drive a couple years ago and the Bluray drive will not play Bluray discs anymore because the software thinks I'm trying to do something illegal. I have updated the software, to no avail. It is extremely frustrating and I am not willing to put any more time into fiddling with it. So, to punish the industry, I have stopped buying Bluray anything. Maybe in a few years I'll give it another go.
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by illegallydead August 13, 2009 12:05 AM PDT
Are you sure you have the drive's FW updated? What do you mean by "illegal"? If it is a problem with HDCP than it is probably your monitor or something.... I agree that the industry being so anal about "security" that it harms the average consumer (like you) is absurd...
by tektaktyks August 14, 2009 8:55 AM PDT
i had problems with the powerdvd that shopped with my lg bluray burner in xp,try getting latest power dvd (witch is crap btw) or get media player classic or the whole klite codec pack and i dont know about xp anymore but vista and 7 are ok,hope it helps
by Cironnu August 12, 2009 8:11 AM PDT
I played with it, and the coupon code didn't work the first time....then I realized it was case sensitive and typed it in in ALL CAPS. :-) Worked just fine. With sales tax, $700, for a BEAST of a machine compared to the antique I'm using now.

Now if I just had $700 laying around....
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by ktappe August 12, 2009 8:20 AM PDT
HP is about the lowest quality of the big name brands, so beware. Also, I am still laughing at the phrase "15-month subscription to Norton Internet Security 2009 (a.k.a. the good version)". There's a "good" version of Norton?
Seriously, this "deal" has trouble written all over it. I recommend buyers instead look to a refurb. Dell and add Kaspersky AV. They'll be glad they did.
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by StevieD377 August 12, 2009 4:12 PM PDT
Just for anyone reading the above comment, Norton is, in fact a fantastic security product and I would recommend it to anyone. Superb protection and very little footprint. I have Norton 360 and could not be happier, well worth the $60 a year.
by pjcamp August 12, 2009 5:54 PM PDT
I left Norton behind for almost 10 years, after it became serious bloatware. I came back for the 2009 version and I'm glad I did. It has been totally rewritten and the system resource impact is simply not visible to the unaided eye. It is definitely the best of the pay-for suites at the moment. And I say that as a thoroughly jaded Symantec user.
by bornlikethis38 August 13, 2009 9:36 AM PDT
Norton Internet Security 2009 is the best in the business. Has all of Norton's next-gen technology, an awesome interface, and uses almost no ram.
by Surrylic August 17, 2009 4:40 PM PDT
Hmm I must disagree with that HP comment... My parents have an HP, and have had it for nearly 8 years. For 6.5 of those years I was also using it, playing games, endless downloads... it got a TON of use... the only thing that ever went bad was the CD drive, so I replaced that for like $40.

HP is a great brand in my opinion, I've had several more problems with this DELL I'm typing on right now (that's only two years old.....). And the gateway we had 10 years ago, that wasn't so great either.
by rexdeaz August 12, 2009 8:26 AM PDT
I own the version of this that Rick wrote about in January and I must say, I'm salivating at the thought of not being able to afford this as a second machine! I have a Blu-Ray player (PS3) but having it on my PC and getting the entire system new (the one I have is a refurb) would've been ideal.
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by pentest August 12, 2009 9:04 AM PDT
At that price you can be sure that the HD, MOBO, Case, Memory, and PSU are of the lowest quality and thus the machine is low quality. Someone who gets dazzled by meaningless specs shouldn't be writing about computers.
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by ThomasPic August 12, 2009 10:21 AM PDT
Don't hate on Rick just because you have your thumb up your a$$. If you don't like it the computer or the deal then you don't have to get it. It's that simple.
by j_a_s_p_e_r August 12, 2009 10:57 AM PDT
The MB is made by Pegatron (ASUS OEM). HP often uses Samsung RAM and either Hitatchi or Samsung HDD. Power supplies are usually sufficient for the system as is (as well as a pocket media and personal media add-on drive), but may require an upgrade with more HDDs or more powerful video cards. If you want the specs look here : http://h10025.www1.hp.com/ewfrf/wc/document?docname=c01792837&cc=us&dlc=en&lc=en&jumpid=reg_R1002_USEN#N334

You can check out the service manuals or their site for more details.
by j_a_s_p_e_r August 12, 2009 11:07 AM PDT
not Samsung HDD, sorry SEAGATE HDD. Main reason Rick had trouble with the m9350f, bad firmware on the HDD. my m9250f has Hitatchi drives
by pentest August 12, 2009 9:43 PM PDT
In other words low quality parts. a "sufficient" PSU? So, a cheap no name PSU that runs an unsteady supply causing components to die quickly. It is no coincidence that a 650-700w high quality PSU will outperform a crappy PSU at 800w on a system that actually uses 800 watts. The PSU is the most important part of a system, the second is arguably the case. If the PSU is bad, the entire system is bad.

A good quality case helps get heat out more efficiently. Of course it will come with the stock Intel fan/heatsink which is always worthless causing the CPU to not perform as it should, but of course, the "dirty" power coming in from the crap CPU isn't helping matters either. Seagate HD are fairly low end, especially when they give HP a cheap lot with a failure rate, and of course shoddy power isn't going to add anything to the HD is it?

They stuff the cheapest memory they can get their hands in which often is flaky at best.

OEM's really need to clean up their act with PSU's. They put a crappy one in that barely meets the wattage requirements, and of course most people don't give the PSU a second thought and start adding in parts thinking everything is OK, because there are expansion slots so it must be OK. That leads to quicker death as well, which is exactly why they skimp on PSU's. It significantly shortens the life of the system so they can sell more over time.

It is a bad business.

The point is that a "technical" writer should know better then to trumpet up specs as they are meaningless. It is simply poor technical reporting. It is that simple.
by j_a_s_p_e_r August 13, 2009 5:53 AM PDT
@pentest. I can only tell you that my experience with a similar HP has been good. Even after adding a 1TB Personal Media Drive running off the power supply as well (as well as 2 x500 GB drives and NVidia 8500). I've never had overheating issues and my PC is so quiet I love it. I've built my own systems in the past and I know how hard it is to get a system really quiet.

Seagate had a crisis last year with 5 models that had firmware that would make PCs run slower and slower (Rick's m9350f had that issue). This issue was solved. I would contend that Seagate/Maxtor is good quality, and that the bad news related to those drives gave them a black eye. I've had no issues with my hitatchis and the perform very nicely

From your other post you said that MAC has better hardware, I have to disagree again based on my experience of upgrading my in-laws MAC.
by Seaspray0 August 14, 2009 7:26 AM PDT
@pentest. You always complain about the quality of EVERY PC. Why should I be surprised you'd complain about this one too?
by bob.mcclenahan August 12, 2009 9:29 AM PDT
But will it run OSX? Why won't Apple produce anything like this for anything close to this price?
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by j_a_s_p_e_r August 12, 2009 10:40 AM PDT
Check out Hackint0sh.org to find compatible hardware to turn a cheap PC into an expensive MAC
by streamline35 August 12, 2009 5:42 PM PDT
You sound like someone who should definitely be rooting for psystar (I am)
by mbenedict August 12, 2009 8:08 PM PDT
Then again for $799 you could get a Mac Mini from Apple, with 2 GHz Core Duo, 2 GB RAM, 320 GB hard drive...

and oh, an 8x "SuperDrive", how could I forget... hahaha.
by tcr071 August 12, 2009 8:53 PM PDT
Apple builds machines just like this it is just that they are slower, cost $800 more, and have an Apple logo. I am sure you can go find an Apple store nearby and get the least amount possible for your money!

Heh. In all seriousness Apple will never hit a price point like this with anything but an iPod Touch or a Mac Mini. Despite the fact that the parts in the desktop are the same off the shelf parts that everyone elses uses they just can't "figure out" how to not tack on an $800 "Apple tax" and shoo customers away. If you want a machine like that running Apple your best bet is to check out the osx86 project, look for a hardware configuration that is fully compatible with OS X, and build yourself the machine. Apple is like the BMW of the computer companies... except BMW doesn't buy engines from GM to put in their cars. ;)
by pentest August 12, 2009 9:44 PM PDT
Apple doesn't assemble low quality systems. How do you think they can do this? By building a high quality system with high quality parts? Ha!
by pentest August 12, 2009 9:45 PM PDT
"it is just that they are slower"

I guarantee you that the benchmarks are this system will be very poor. This is not a fast machine.
by j_a_s_p_e_r August 13, 2009 5:39 AM PDT
@pentest Seriously have you ever opened up a MAC? I own an HP, I've used Dell, Gateway and HP at work. HP was not always good quality, you may not have used them recently. My system has a 350W power supply. I run 2 Hitatchi 500GB drives (RAID 0), a Geforce 8500, a 1GB PMD, etc. on it. NEVER had an issue (plus it is whisper quiet). It works, I don't care what you think of the quality. I had to laugh went you talked about the Apple quality. Last time I opened up my in-laws Mac for an upgrade I was disgusted. They do everything in their power to screw the consumer by overcharging 2-3x on hardware prices and limiting upgrade paths. I saw soldered in conponents, cramped spaces and hard to open chassis all to prevent users from upgrading. They want you to buy a new system. This is a cheapskate blog in the end its still your money, you can spend it however you want.
by pithenumber August 13, 2009 6:46 AM PDT
@pentest
I can make a quality sub $500 computer
so there is no reason why Apple can't do it too
by gescores August 13, 2009 7:17 AM PDT
Go to Apple store, customize your computer, fetch a price.
Then go to a Dell or HP store, try to match as best as you can the customization, and see for yourself...

Spoiler: same price (if you where able to match)
Spoiler: Failure rate is double for Dell than Apple (I am including troubleshooting to be fair: we have over a 2000 Dell, some failed right out the box, and 200 Mac, none have failed. Also IT charges (ie own accounting charge for the purpose of keeping the management busy) average 5 times more per employee for Dell vs Mac)
Spoiler: the "Apple tax" that Paul Allen use abundantly (remember this is the guy with compulsive behavior, who trow a chair at a staff meeting because he was angry), was not about Mac being more expensive than PC when you buy them, it was about not being able to use the 90% of the Windows only application. Virtualization and built-in Bootcamp remedy this "problem". To that I can add that it's easier to get freebies on a PC than a Mac.

My 2 cents: people don't what they are talking about when they claim Mac is expensive.
And marketing wise, what's the point of competing in the same market than everybody else. You have to offer something different.
by Rolker August 13, 2009 1:35 PM PDT
gescores

Apple may be great, but I just don't understand this myth that PCs brake all the time.
I've been working with several generations of PCs, and I never had a problem. Not with the hardware, nor with the software.
At my laboratory, we have 10 years old PCs (sad but true), and they still work just fine.
"Virtualization and built-in Bootcamp remedy this "problem". " - but you still need to buy a copy of Windows.
And you can't deny that Macs are more expensive than PCs.
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by j_a_s_p_e_r August 12, 2009 10:39 AM PDT
Nice deal Rick. Here is another deal, just delivered to may email by HP:
Buy an s5150 or s5150t slimline, configure it for $699.99+ and get $250 discount (use coupon DT25587)

Its been almost a year since I've bought my m9250f refurb and I still love it. People that have not used HP for a while should consider trying out their products. I love how quiet my PC is. BTW the m9250f is a fav for hackint0sh, but OSX does not support the Hauppauge tv tuner so I passed. Check out hackint0sh.org (thats a zero), only some systems can be converted or made into dual boot
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by gescores August 12, 2009 12:51 PM PDT
I remember building a quad core rig with better spec than that for 800$... One year ago...
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by pentest August 12, 2009 9:46 PM PDT
Exactly!
by mbenedict August 14, 2009 1:35 AM PDT
Um, last year just a Q6600 CPU alone cost $530 wholesale, in quantity of 1000.

That leaves just $230 for a motherboard, 6GB of RAM, Blu-ray drive, 500 GB hard drive, 512MB GeForce G210, new case, PSU, Wireless-N card, PLUS a legal copy of Vista Home Premium / Windows 7.

Basically I call bulls**t.
by zyxxy August 14, 2009 6:50 AM PDT
I bought a refurb Dell XPS 420 Q6600 4GB DDR2 500GB Dual DVD Radeon HD 3650 Vista4 (no monitor, no wireless, no Bluray) back in January for $650. I could add the Bluray now and still stay under $800.

Rock solid machine, I have been very happy with it. XPS 420 has been discontinued since the introduction of XPS 430 with DDR3

Yeah yeah yeah, complain about Dell all you want, this is my third one, all still running. The oldest dates back to 1998 (Pentium III 700) and still does duty as a file server.
by p_r_b August 12, 2009 1:38 PM PDT
I tried this coupon and HP. will only let you use one coupon at a time. You either get the instant $200 rebate, or the $350 off the $999 total price.
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by THE COMPUTER HEALER August 12, 2009 3:47 PM PDT
complaining complaining complaining.
hp is only the leader in desktop pc's. its not like they know what they're doing or anything.year after year they only have a handful of idiots who expect the pc to automatically clean up their messes. not even your almighty dell's can do that. you get your money worth and then some with hp. dell is nothing more than an apple without the fruit.
by MrRetardo August 12, 2009 3:56 PM PDT
Not bad if someone needs a second desktop or has no desktop or something for the college kid. The video card.... replace with something better
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by niko_osokin August 12, 2009 4:48 PM PDT
Is the G210 even capable of doing HD video at at least 24 fps? Everything looks awesome EXCEPT that PoS graphics card.
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by pithenumber August 13, 2009 6:47 AM PDT
isn't it a discrete card?
that means its at least better than integrated?
by streamline35 August 13, 2009 8:53 AM PDT
Pithenumber - yeah, it's roughly equivalent to a 9300 or a 9400, from what I could figure out. That's totally fine for HD video, which doesn't take that much power to run as long as you have something more powerful than a netbook.

On a sidenote, I hate the new naming scheme for these g--- and gt--- series cards. It's irritating, because they are oem only cards, and are really difficult to figure out what they are equivalent to.
by briurban123 August 12, 2009 5:13 PM PDT
This didn't work. I followed the instructions 3 x and said invalid code..
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by ryman546 August 12, 2009 6:23 PM PDT
Tried this and it didn't work. HP must have already removed this.
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by shotnoise August 12, 2009 6:59 PM PDT
The code you provided - DTM4558 - is invalid.
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by SkiBumBL August 12, 2009 8:12 PM PDT
I can't get the code to work either. They must have taken it away.
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