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July 27, 2009 6:41 AM PDT

Get a Netgear 802.11 Draft-N router for $19.99

by Rick Broida
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The $20 802.11n router: You're not likely to find a lower price.

(Credit: Netgear)

If your wireless router doesn't have the muscle to reach all corners of the house, or you need a faster connection for copying files and streaming videos, it might be time to consider an upgrade.

Newegg has refurbished Netgear WNR2000 802.11n Draft 2.0 routers for $19.99 (shipping will run you a mere $1.99).

In case you're unfamiliar with it, the "new" Wi-Fi protocol (which seems forever destined to be known as Draft-N) delivers better range and faster throughput speeds than 802.11g.

The WNR2000 is backward compatible with older Wi-Fi hardware and comes with four Ethernet ports, two internal antennas, and the usual raft of security features.

Keep in mind that unless you have 802.11n adapters for the PCs in your house, you may not reap the full benefits of the router--but you'll still enjoy better range and, based on my experiences, faster wireless connections, even if you have 802.11b/g gear. (Make sure to download the latest firmware updates from Netgear.)

CNET hasn't reviewed the WNR2000, but the user comments on Newegg's product page are mostly positive. And over at Amazon, it averages four stars out of five. That's pretty impressive, as even high-end routers often get crummy reviews.

The WNR2000 has a list price of $79.99, so you're saving quite a bit by opting for a refurbished unit. It does have only a 90-day warranty, but what is there to break? Either it works or it doesn't. I think it's a steal, and at this price, I suspect they won't last.

Rick Broida, a technology writer for nearly 20 years, is the author of more than a dozen books. In addition to writing CNET's The Cheapskate blog, he oversees BNET's Business Hacks. Rick is a member of the CNET Blog Network and is not an employee of CBS Interactive. Disclosure. Deals found on The Cheapskate are subject to availability, expiration, and other terms determined by sellers. Follow Rick on Twitter at cheapskateblog.
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by Raabscuttle July 27, 2009 8:51 AM PDT
Buy Refurbished / Fly Red-eye / Stay During the Week - The mantra of the Cheapskate!

Let me just head this one off at the pass - there is nothing wrong with refurb wi-fi routers, it is usually an "issue" with the user rather than the equipment. If you haven't switched to N (supposedly to be ratified this Sept\ember) then steal this one before Newegg gets wise and ups the price (or they sell out).
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by Scopip July 27, 2009 9:30 AM PDT
or you could wait till a draft N has a gigabit port on it.
by j_a_s_p_e_r July 27, 2009 10:27 AM PDT
I would add to the mantra :
- "Don't buy what you don't need". (In this case unless your streaming HD then wireless G will probably be fine, if you only use your network for internet access then almost everyone will have no benefit of wireless N
- "Buy it when you need it, not when its on sale". Sounds counter-intuitive, but people never account for the time value of money, plus there is ALWAYS another deal tomorrow. In this case wait until you are ready to go all N and again only if you really need it.

BTW. Rick I've been resistant to put RockBox on my old sansa e200 series. I finally bit the bullet, boy did I miss out. my cheap $39 player is now loaded with more features I could dream of every needing! Sound quality is siginificantly improved, Ogg-Vorbis support, MP3 recording, Dozens of games and apps. Can't beat the price. I recommend anyone with an mp3 player to check it out at http://www.rockbox.org/. Plus its low risk since you have a dual boot option to load the existing player OS
by Nychocolips July 27, 2009 12:03 PM PDT
I am waiting for that Gigabit port too. I could use the Draft N (I stream HD content)....but I could also benefit from Gigabit too. This will be an especially big deal when I have to upgrade my RAID NAS. *GROAN* I am also hoping for a really stable Draft N Router. I don't know if there is such a thing as a stable wireless router...but I live in hope.
by troyoverton July 27, 2009 2:26 PM PDT
Netgear's "Draft-N" gigabit router is called the WNR3500.

I has a couple of other features also, and the range is pretty good. "Gigabit" throughput on home-user routers is still crap compared to Cisco routers and switches that actually have the horsepower to push the packets. It's faster, just don't expect the moon and the stars.

I'd really like to see a nice gigabit router that can be flashed with aftermarket firmware such as the DD-WRT. I'm using that on a pair of WRT54GS routers, and I have yet to see the features and performance matched (on a per dollar level.)

Good luck with whichever router that you may choose!
by balboos July 28, 2009 6:02 AM PDT
Refurb? I love 'em - unless they say NetGear.

Kodak? EMachines? You name it - they all give a warranty and support for their refurbished.

NetGear - they specifically give NONE. And with good reason . . .

The net shopping areas are constantly flooded with NetGear refurbs. They make such garbage they've a ton of refurbs to dump. I doubt they even really refurb them - since they give neither support nor warranty Just ship 'em out and let the vendors & users spend their money on RMA's or until the purchaser gives up.

Never buy NetGear. There's lots of competition and they stand behind their products.
by robertorosco July 27, 2009 9:02 AM PDT
Just bought one.
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by whycali July 27, 2009 11:17 AM PDT
I am gonna go out on a limb and say a refurbed toaster would be better than the wrt54g almost everybody is using.
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by adntaylo July 27, 2009 11:50 AM PDT
I've had this one bought from newegg for about 2 months. Aside from the occassional (maybe once or twice a week) reset, this thing works like a charm. I have these and some powerline adapters for the game systems and they all work together great. One of my desktops are hooked up to this via N adapter and I am very impressed with the speeds. Nothing close to the 300 it says but I get about 150-175.
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by Stang5150 July 27, 2009 12:29 PM PDT
Same here. I bought this when it was announced back a few months as well. I've had no problems and it works great with my Samsung BD-3600 bluray streaming netflix in HD.
by jaguar717 July 27, 2009 1:55 PM PDT
I also bought this guy a month or so ago, when it was $25 or $30 or whatever. Pretty sure it was new but I don't remember or care.

I literally haven't touched it since I set it up with my new desktop and ancient laptop, other than to slap a piece of electrical tape down the front since I don't want the light in my bedroom. Haven't tested it for speed but it's fast enough for me not to care.
by loose_screw July 27, 2009 1:26 PM PDT
I think I'm going to bite. My roommie took her Netgear router when she moved out, and my Linksys doesn't cover the entire house.

If I run into any problems with this, I'll report back.

Thanks Rick!
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by loose_screw July 30, 2009 12:14 AM PDT
UPDATE: My router arrived today and I'm very happy with it so far. Physically it was in like new condition with the protective plastic still on the sides and front. The latest firmware was already installed, and I was able to set it up as a wireless access point using this procedure:

http://kb.netgear.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/1080

I haven't done much testing with it yet, but it looks great sitting on my kitchen desk. I found a detailed review that has all the info you could ever want to know about this router:

http://www.smallnetbuilder.com/content/view/30615/96/

Thanks again Rick!
by loose_screw August 6, 2009 1:47 AM PDT
UPDATE #2: I've been running this router for a week now, and it is rock solid so far! I get a "very good" signal even on the other side of my 3000sf house--through 3 walls and a granite backsplash. Color me impressed. Thanks Rick!
by agriffith96 July 27, 2009 1:28 PM PDT
Can it be configured as a wireless access point from another router? FrontierNet forces me to use their crappy hardware so I have to configure a better router to run my wireless for me.
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by Forked_Tongue July 28, 2009 1:07 AM PDT
Yes you can, shut off the wireless from the isp provided router, connect this router to one of the ports (using it's uplink jack), and connect your desktop to it to clone your mac, and then setup the security on it.
by Seaspray0 August 13, 2009 8:36 AM PDT
how to use a home router as an access point (i.e. already have a home router running): connect to it on a LAN port (i.e. 1-4) with a network cable to your computer. goto the configuration for your new "access point". assign it an IP address that's not currently being used on your home network. turn OFF the DHCP. turn on the wireless. Assign it the same SSID and password. Change the channel to a different one from your home router (default for home routers is 6). Unplug your PC and cable. Change the cable to a "crossover" cable to connect your access point LAN port to your home network.
by loose_screw July 27, 2009 1:45 PM PDT
Yeah, it's not the most intuitive but if it's like other Netgear routers then it can be done. Here's the process for some of their other home routers, this is probably similar if not the same:

http://kb.netgear.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/965
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by loose_screw July 27, 2009 1:47 PM PDT
The above post is a reply to agriffith96 regarding how to set up the Netgear router to be an access point.
by agriffith96 July 27, 2009 6:24 PM PDT
Good deal! Thanks for the link. Looks pretty much like the setup I did for my Linksys WRT54G. It's pretty straight forward. For whatever reason took me 3 tries to get it right on my Linksys. For 20 bucks I don't think you can go wrong. Worst case scenario I sell it for a small loss or break even at a garage sale. My laptop has Draft-N so I might as well have a wireless point that has Draft-N.

Thanks again loose_screw!
by Raabscuttle July 27, 2009 3:06 PM PDT
Honestly, we could all hold off buying a product "forever" - but if we did, we'd still be using Beta tapes... I grabbed an draft-N router as soon as they were available and it not only gave me better range than the G, but a more consistent connection and better through put. I finally sold my G at a garage sale for like $10. Why wait for ratification, get the N !!! :-)
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by adrianj July 27, 2009 3:16 PM PDT
bought.
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by Raabscuttle July 27, 2009 3:25 PM PDT
Cool PS - last month Eric Geier wrote an excellant article about turning your 802.11g router into an acess point that ran off the 802.11n router... This way your 802.11g items are negatively impacting your 802.11n items. Pretty cool, and geeky stuff...

http://www.wi-fiplanet.com/tutorials/article.php/3826776
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by chrgeorgeson July 27, 2009 4:37 PM PDT
"In case you're unfamiliar with it, the "new" Wi-Fi protocol (which seems forever destined to be known as Draft-N) delivers better range and faster throughput speeds than 802.11g."

Actually it's funny that you would say this, last week it was announced that the N-Draft will be finalized in September! Which is 'bout damn time!
But anything labled Draft -N and not Pre-N Draft will be fine. So buy this if you want although I hate Belkin products. I prefer D-Link, (Mine is the DIR-625 with QOS and Firewall capabilities) or Linksys with custom firmware.

Here is the link about the N Draft being finalized.

http://www.engadget.com/2009/07/27/802-11n-finalization-just-a-formality-interoperability-to-be-pr/
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by chrgeorgeson July 27, 2009 4:38 PM PDT
Oops just realized this is Netgear. I have never used Netgear but have heard both Good and Bad about them.
by Tommygun45 July 27, 2009 10:33 PM PDT
Ive had this router for about 4 or 5 months now, still has yet to drop a signal once. Running off comcast's service, can get up around 1900, 2200 kb/s. Also streams 1080p no problem to my aluminum macbook.
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by madcow06 July 28, 2009 12:08 AM PDT
not just his macbook, his ALUMINUM macbook. wooooooo
by WillThiele July 28, 2009 6:27 AM PDT
mine is made out a popsicle sticks :(

and it still costed me $1,199!
by balboos July 28, 2009 5:49 AM PDT
WARNING !

Never By NetGear Refurbished - anything. I suffered the consequences

They will supply no support - absolutely none - for their refurbished products - and have you noticed how much of their stuff is available as refurbished. Both of these should set off alarms in your psyche!

I bought their MIMO wireless router and matching dongle as refurbs. The router arrived and worked great if all I wanted was a blue room light. I was luck enough to get that back to the vendor (NetGear will do nothing!). The dongle? I was stuck with it. The signal it picked up was 'one bar' vs. my old DLink wireless b, which had 5 bars in exactly the same location. It also got hot as hell. My solution was to by a new retail of the exact same item, swap, and return it as defective (up yours, NetGear!).

The attitude at NetGear can be best described as follows - they put the broken stuff they get back directly into boxes as refurbs, with a little slip of paper inside tell how they don't give support - and then just ship it out, sit back, and laugh.

They S*ck. By anything else.
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by bavanation July 31, 2009 1:32 AM PDT
I bought this and it just arrived today. I had an interesting adventure with it so far. First of all, it appeared as if it was brand new with the clear plastic stickers covering the sides and front. But the stand was damaged. I installed the router pretty easily and it worked like a charm. There's a slip of paper in the box detailing the 30 day warranty and email hardware support. When I tried accessing the email hardware support (so that I could hopefully just get a new stand), it required a serial number. I checked the router and the serial number is missing! The sticker where it's supposed to be is gone! I contacted Newegg and mentioned the broken stand and the lack of a serial number, and they quickly offered to send me a new one almost immediately. They said I don't even have to send back the old one. It sounded kind of fishy, but hey, it's a free router! 2 for $20. You can't beat that.
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by loose_screw July 31, 2009 1:37 PM PDT
Wow, nice!
by PeteyBrian July 31, 2009 11:24 PM PDT
Thanks Rick!
I received my Netgear router yesterday. However, it was missing the setup disk. Since I am only moderately competent with computers (just like my cooking skills), I attempted to find download software on Netgear website, but I couldn't figure out how to do it. What to do? Exchange the router which would take a couple of weeks? I went to my well known local tech store and purchased the SAME router for like $90 (!), setup the software, and will return it tomorrow (Sorry local tech store!). Works and looks amazing. Couldn't be happier. Coupled with my new USB antenna (missed your $9.99 Netgear deal but only paid about $16 shipped for another brand), my connections are fast and my wifi signal strong throughout the house!
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by Seaspray0 August 13, 2009 8:41 AM PDT
Hook a network cable directly between your computer and the netgear. try the following in a browser...

http://192.168.0.1
http://192.168.0.254
http://192.168.1.1
http://192.168.1.254

Those are usually the default IP's of home routers. I've never used a setup disk.
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