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September 15, 2009 12:24 PM PDT

White House unveils cloud computing initiative

by Daniel Terdiman
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The administration's cloud computing initiative is getting started immediately, at least in small measure, on the brand-new Apps.gov Web site.

(Credit: Apps.gov)

MOUNTAIN VIEW, Calif.--The Obama administration on Tuesday announced a far-reaching and long-term cloud computing policy intended to cut costs on infrastructure and reduce the environmental impact of government computing systems.

Speaking at NASA's Ames Research Center here, federal CIO Vivek Kundra unveiled the administration's first formal efforts to roll out a broad system designed to leverage existing infrastructure and in the process, slash federal spending on information technology, especially expensive data centers.

According to Kundra, the federal government today has an IT budget of $76 billion, of which more than $19 billion is spent on infrastructure alone. And within that system, he said, the government "has been building data center after data center," resulting in an environment in which the Department of Homeland Security alone, for example, has 23 data centers.

Obama administration CIO Vivek Kundra on Tuesday unveiled the government's new cloud computing initiative.

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All told, this has resulted in a doubling of federal energy consumption from 2000 to 2006. "We cannot continue on this trajectory," Kundra said.

That's why the administration is now committed to a policy of reducing infrastructure spending and instead, relying on existing systems, at least as much as is possible, given security considerations, Kundra said.

As an example of what's possible with cloud computing, Kundra pointed to a revamping of the General Services Administration's USA.gov site. Using a traditional approach to add scalability and flexibility, he said, it would have taken six months and cost the government $2.5 million a year. But by turning to a cloud computing approach, the upgrade took just a day and cost only $800,000 a year.

But while some of the benefits of the administration's cloud computing initiative are on display today--mainly at the brand new Apps.gov Web site--Kundra's presentation was short on specifics and vague about how long it may take the government to transition fully to its new paradigm.

Indeed, Kundra hinted that it could take as much as a decade to complete the cloud computing "journey."

Three-part initiative
While repeatedly referencing the realities that many government efforts must make allowances in their IT needs for security, Kundra argued strongly that in many other cases, there is little reason that federal agencies cannot turn to online resources for quick, easy, and cheap provisioning of applications.

As a result, the first major element of the initiative is the brand new Apps.gov site, a clearinghouse for business, social media, and productivity applications, as well as cloud IT services. To be sure, the site isn't fully functional yet. In fact, a brief survey of it resulted in a series of error messages. But it's evident that the administration hopes that for many agencies, the site will eventually be a one-stop shop for the kinds of services that to date have required extensive IT spending, and Kundra said he believes that some at the Department of Energy has already been using the site for some of its needs.

The second element of the effort, Kundra said, will be budgeting. For fiscal year 2010, the administration will be pushing cloud computing pilot projects, reflecting the effort's priority and hopes that many lightweight workflows can be moved into the cloud. For fiscal 2011, it will be issuing guidance to agencies throughout government.

Finally, the initiative will include policy planning and architecture that will be made up of centralized certifications, target architecture and security, privacy, and procurement concerns. Kundra said every effort will be made to ensure that data is protected and secure, and that whatever changes are made are "pragmatic and responsible."

Clearly, though, the administration has seen benefits in the way private industry uses cloud computing, and intends to mirror those benefits. Ultimately, he added, the idea is to make it simple for agencies to procure the applications they need. "Why should the government pay for and build infrastructure that may be available for free," Kundra said.

One inspiration, he explained, are advances the government has already seen in the streamlining of student aid application forms. The so-called FAFSA (Free Application for Federal Student Aid) form is "more complicated" than the federal 1040 tax form, Kundra said. But in a joint effort between the IRS and the Department of Education, it has become possible with one click of a mouse button for IRS data to populate the FAFSA form, Kundra said, eliminating more than 70 questions and 20 screens.

That, then, should be the kind of thing that the government seeks to do across the board, ultimately delivering large savings to taxpayers and significantly reducing the environmental impact of government IT systems.

Daniel Terdiman is a staff writer at CNET News covering games, Net culture, and everything in between. E-mail Daniel.
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by simply7 September 15, 2009 12:47 PM PDT
Are you kidding me? Obama needs to pack up and go back to Kenya and stop opening federal corporations, buying them up and running with the bankers. This guy is a nut-job and a crook.
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by spiffy1001 September 15, 2009 1:10 PM PDT
Yeah, screw Obama! Bush didn't use cloud computing, lets go the Bush route and NOT save money!

Obama Bad! Obama Bad!

(NOTE: I am actually a Republican, but I am sick of any article that even remotely relates to Obama being turned into a 'Obama is the antichrist' whinefest.)
by TheDiplomat78 September 15, 2009 1:13 PM PDT
Click on simply7 and read some of their previous post... Whoever this is they are either a child or a complete moron! LOL!
by angelou2 September 15, 2009 2:07 PM PDT
THANK YOU PRESIDENT OBAMA FOR COMING THROUGH WITH YOUR PROMISES. I TOTALLY LOVED HOW EASY IT IS TO FILL OUT THE FAFSA. If you don't know what a FAFSA is then you are too young to be commenting on this forum.

Americans, don't let POLITICAL TERRORISTS SCARE YOU INTO A TON OF CONSPIRACY THEORIES CREATED BY THE REPUBLICAN PARANOID SCHIZOPHRENICS!
by Dalkorian September 16, 2009 9:02 AM PDT
Watching faux news, listening to a fat, hypocritical oxycontin eating drug addict and being stupid is no way to go through life, son.
by Cru09 September 17, 2009 7:39 AM PDT
This guy thinks wave will fail. Why take him seriously?
"go back to Kenya" eh? A little closet bigot slipped out of you just then.
by DanRobinson September 15, 2009 12:59 PM PDT
Does that mean lower taxes? Now there would be an incentive!
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by dnha14 September 15, 2009 1:26 PM PDT
I'm no geek, but isn't there a security issue? Isn't a company's data safer behind a hard wired firewall with encryption than floating in a cloud somewhere? I know I'm showing my ignorance, but can someone explain?
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by angelou2 September 15, 2009 2:08 PM PDT
I thought they were talking about ability to acquire applications, not storage of classified information!
by ckurowic September 15, 2009 2:13 PM PDT
Yes but applications process this classified information. You can still get that information by having the apps hosted elsewhere. Its a pipe dream.
by RobertFHarwood September 15, 2009 6:55 PM PDT
If the cloud is in a private network and not a public network like the Internet, it is more secure. It would be secure from attacks that do not take place from those not physicaly attached to the network. Even that network can use hardware encryption from the network card on. So yes it can be both a cloud and behind the hard wired firewall with encryption, they are not mutually exclusive.
by forever4now September 15, 2009 1:29 PM PDT
I would hope that any government cloud computing initiative would build upon current & emerging web standards. This would REALLY light a fire under the browser vendors, to get HTML5, WebGL, etc. implemented in their browsers.

Firefox, Chrome, Safari & Opera have already made significant progress with HTML5, but IE is lagging, as usual.
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by Renegade Knight September 15, 2009 1:56 PM PDT
It should be built on an internal infrastructure so the governmnet won't be captive to recurring charges for the use of software.
by MontyMoose September 15, 2009 1:42 PM PDT
Listen up all....
We can save money implement any thing they want BUT WILL IT BE SECURE!!!
There is only one really safe security protocol... and the government does not use it
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by Harry D September 15, 2009 1:47 PM PDT
This guy is doing too much too fast, all of it too expensive. Shall we vote when Recession 2.0 will hit?

Furthermore, tell me you like The Cloud the next time your internet service goes down. All a terrorist needs to do is knock out a couple of servers, and under this plan the whole government goes offline.

Beautifully not-thought-out. Just like health care. Just like Guantanamo. Just like the bailouts.
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by JavaMan09 September 15, 2009 1:55 PM PDT
to continue your thought... just like everything else Obama and company do
by angelou2 September 15, 2009 2:13 PM PDT
I thought they were talking about the ability to acquire applications for their use easily instead of having to "invent the wheel" again. NO ONE SAID ABSOLUTELY ANYTHING ABOUT STORAGE OF TOP SECRET INFORMATION OR IT BEING THEIR SOLE MEANS OF COMMUNICATION.

How about paying attention to what you read that way you don't start sounding like one of those POLITICAL TERRORISTS.
by Dalkorian September 16, 2009 9:11 AM PDT
"Beautifully not-thought-out" describes your comment perfectly. Currently all a "turrist" needs to do is knock out one or two government controlled servers to achieve the same outcome, where you yourself claimed they would have to take out a couple of servers. Hmm, one or a group ... which is harder?

Health care is a mess and has been for a while. Americans pay more than any other nation for health care that's rated 36th in the world. I know retardicans hate fixing real problems, but this real problem needs to be fixed.

Gitmo is a mess caused by retardicans and their beloved fuhrer bushit, it shouldn't ever have been to begin with. My issue with Obama on this front is he's not acting fast enough, we're still holding people there - many of which have absolutely no ties to "turrism" in any way and were only sold to us by foreign governments because we were stupid enough to "buy" them.


The bailouts wouldn't have been necessary if the retardicans could have managed the economy to begin with, or are we still blaming Obama for a disaster that started months before he was even elected?

Got any more idiocy to show off?
by jglen490 September 15, 2009 2:03 PM PDT
Cloud computing is a grand sounding concept, with hard realities behind it that must be discussed. With the government, there is first a need for isolation and security. The government has a LOT of software systems that are by no means modern, and in some respects won't necessarily benefit from the use of modern databases and configurations. This will require a huge investment in trading COBOL85, mainframe apps (for instance) for something else equally huge and complex, even if modern. I'm not saying that it won't work, of course it can, but this is far from a "wave your magic wand" kind of effort. There are a LOT of government apps that require compliance with security and privacy rules, regulations, and laws that will require some isolation from other apps (possibly non-government) also, on whatever server farm the "cloud" might be using, and with up-time requirements that might be considerably different from someone else's application. Again, I'm not saying that it can't be done, I am saying that once you move to computing as a service, there are limitations that the service provider will want you to abide by and technology that may not be optimal for the application being served. The savings might not be what they are anticipated to be.
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by RobertFHarwood September 15, 2009 7:05 PM PDT
A lot of the privacy and security could be alleviated by running the communications over Internet 2000, since it is a relativly closed system, and hardware encrypted VPN over that even better. Depending on the types of emulation on the cloud, there might just be mainframes emulated. IBM OS/VM is decades old. It is not nesscarily what is being offered by public cloud companies that are doing Linux as a operating systems. There are those based on VMWare that have announced support for Windows operating systems. We don't know. Of course, it would really be a good jobs program to convert all those programs, especialy since the H!B crowd would have a problem with the security clearances. I would go after some of those requirements.
by forever4now September 15, 2009 2:09 PM PDT
I would like to see a government initiative, to encourage IE users to upgrade to modern web browsers.

Try the following Acid3 test, on IE 8 (or earlier) and compare the results to Firefox 3.5, Chrome 2, Safari 4 and/or Opera 10 (see Wikipedia, for a description of Acid3).

http://acid3.acidtests.org/

You should see results, something like this:

Chrome 2.0 - 100/100
Safari 4.0 - 100/100
Opera 10 - 100/100
Firefox 3.5.3 - 93/100
IE 8 - 20/100

Now...try viewing the following HTML5 video, with IE 8 (or earlier). You CANNOT!

http://demo.sproutcore.com/video/

Try viewing this same video with Chrome or Safari. You CAN! And, it looks AWESOME!

Microsoft prefers to do what it wants, the way it wants, whenever it wants. And, as a result of IE's large market share, this makes the lives of web developers miserable & stifles web innovation.

The internet community can change this:

- Encourage/help your family & friends, to move to standards-compliant browsers.
- Encourage your employer, to use a standards-compliant browser (or install a 2nd, if there's an IE dependency).
- Have standards-compliant browsers installed on shared computers (libraries, schools, internet cafes, ...).
- Buy PCs from vendors who default to a standards-compliant browser (e.g. Sony & Apple).
- Buy smartphones, eReaders & other mobile devices, equipped with standards-compliant browsers.
- Buy game consoles, TVs, set-top boxes, etc., equipped with standards-compliant browsers.
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by codynews September 15, 2009 3:59 PM PDT
http://demo.sproutcore.com/video/
"Video tag not supported by your browser"

Got that in Chrome.

Your anti IE post = fail. I use IE at times and Chrome at times. Both pull up all web pages I go to from day to day just fine. You need another hobby
by forever4now September 15, 2009 11:36 PM PDT
@ codynews

I use dev version of Chrome 4.0 under Ubuntu & HTML5 video works great. I don't know what version of Chrome you are using. I think Chrome 3.0 also supports HTML5 video.

Re. pages looking fine in IE, of course! Because of IE's market share, websites MUST make it work in IE. That's the problem. Websites first build their sites to open standards & then they have to kludge them, to work with IE.

Why should web developers, all around the world, be burdened with this extra work? I seem to recall reading that some web developers refuse to support IE6 or charge 50% more for a website, if it needs to support IE6. Ridiculous!

People can help eliminate this burden, by just moving to a non-IE web browser. Microsoft's priority is to entrench their proprietary Silverlight on the internet (i.e. to achieve web lock-in), not supporting & promoting open web standards.
by ckurowic September 15, 2009 2:11 PM PDT
Look the bottom line is that the United States lacks the infrastructure to make cloud computing a reality. Also you have to think about security. Companies with secret information are not going to trust their data to a 3rd party, plain and simple. You can argue with these facts all you want but until you actually work with this stuff you will not understand how complex it really is. Sure it sounds simple to move everything to the cloud. Could it save money? Possibly. However consider that any government entity that wants their data hosted by DISA will be spending at least $6 million per year. That hardly sounds appealing. About the only money it will save is that of manpower.
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by lonegunman63 September 15, 2009 2:23 PM PDT
Um... did anyone actually go to the site? (apps.gov) All the apps are based on salesforce.com

I smell a rat... again.

Don't take my word for it... look here. http://ow.ly/pwXC
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by Dalkorian September 16, 2009 9:18 AM PDT
What really smells is that idiotic obfuscated URL you posted. Yeah, I know you well enough to just trust you, no problem. LOL.

If you want to be taken seriously, learn to post once (sorry, maybe it was an accident?) and use a real URL people can read (I'm not sorry, in a blog post that was just inexcusable).
by lonegunman63 September 15, 2009 2:24 PM PDT
Um... did anyone actually go to the site? (apps.gov) All the apps are based on salesforce.com

Something looks fishy.

Don't take my word for it... look here. http://ow.ly/pwXC
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by dbargen September 15, 2009 3:25 PM PDT
Iz your gov't. I takes control over all ur unterwebz wit mai survahs!

Privacy? What's that?
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by codynews September 15, 2009 4:00 PM PDT
Running in containers from Verari? http://www.verari.com/forest.asp
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by TAnthony1 September 16, 2009 10:18 AM PDT
Addressing our society of beuratic redundencies seems to be a major effort of this administration and it's a good one. It's possible we can take steps forward and not remain looping through our current maze of mental masturbation.
-Thomas Anthony
http://www.acleaningbid.com
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by TAnthony1 September 16, 2009 10:33 AM PDT
Hhmmm.... half the letters of the word bureaucratic didn't make the trip. Or maybe I just can't spell.
-Tom
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