Rumor: Nintendo to have new Wii 'by 2011'
Update at 2:10 p.m. PDT: This story now reflects Nintendo's response to a request for comment.
If there's one thing that's sure to get video gamers talking, it's a rumor that there could be a new Wii, Xbox, or PlayStation console on the horizon.
Well, the hot topic of discussion du jour is that there could be a new Wii by 2011, according to a post on the blog What They Play.
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That site "has heard from multiple sources in the game development and publishing community that Nintendo is currently showing early presentations of its next home console hardware. Apparently set to hit the market 'by 2011,' the device is said to be the true 'next generation' Nintendo console, and far more than a simple refresh of the current (Wii) hardware."
The post continued, asserting that this rumored new device could have high-definition capabilities, as well as a "greater emphasis on digitally distributed and backwardly compatible content."
For its part, Nintendo said it does not comment on rumors.
It could be mere coincidence (because odds are that even if the rumors are true, Nintendo wouldn't want to confirm them for quite some time), but on Thursday, the company is hosting its annual media day here in San Francisco. And I'd been told that it would "have news" it would be releasing at the event. Until now, I'd assumed the news would be something only minimally consequential, but of course, announcing a new Wii development project would make a few headlines, I would think.
More likely, the news that Nintendo will put out Thursday will be about a new multimedia DS handheld device, such as the one the video game blog Joystiq says could be unveiled at a separate press event in Japan Wednesday night.
Still, if the new Wii rumors are true, it will be a long time before Nintendo would be ready to unveil any details--think maybe the Game Development Conference in March, 2009, or E3 next July. Or possibly not even then.
One big question is why Nintendo would be rushing to put out a new console when the Wii is selling at unbelievable levels, far outselling Microsoft's Xbox 360 and Sony's PlayStation 3. In August, according to industry analysts The NPD Group, the Wii sold 453,000 units, while the Xbox moved 195,000 and the PS3 just 185,000.
Of course, as has been made abundantly clear over the last year or so, many people don't consider the Wii to be a direct competitor to the Xbox and the PS3. Rather, some see the Wii as complementary to the other two consoles, despite the fact that before any of them hit the market, all three were touted as "next generation" devices.
But the Xbox and the PS3 are both HD consoles that provide very high-quality graphics capabilities. By contrast, the Wii's graphics are not nearly as powerful; instead, the console's success is based mainly on its innovative motion-sensitive controllers.
Some gamers, however, would most likely love to see a console from Nintendo that can offer high-quality graphics and HD capabilities, which is why any new Wii, such as the one talked about in these rumors, centers on that functionality.
It would be fair to ask why a Nintendo console would need HD capabilities, and the answer there could easily be that just because any new device had them doesn't mean all new games for it would have to take advantage of them. Some could, however, and I'm sure gamers would like the variety of choices that such a development would offer.
Price-wise, however, it's hard to see how a new Wii device would make sense. One way the Wii has arrived at its dominant position--one few expected before the three consoles hit the market in 2005 and 2006--is by having the lowest price.
Now, however, the lowest-end Xbox costs less than the Wii. Last month, Microsoft said it was lowering the price of the Xbox Arcade to $199, becoming the first next-gen console to break the $200 price barrier that many industry observers feel is the magic price point that opens up a market to mass consumers. The Wii still costs $249.
But in my opinion, that $50 price difference would not be enough to discourage Wii buyers--holiday 2008 sales will tell the story, I suppose--and I expect that in the near term, Nintendo will continue to see its sales be an order of magnitude higher than the Xbox or the PS3.
And over the next couple of years, the Wii's price could drop further, joining the Xbox below the $200 threshold and ensuring continued strong sales.
So why would Nintendo want to put out a new console that would almost surely cost more?
That's the question I think is hard to answer. The company would almost certainly have to subsidize the price to keep it low, and as long as there wasn't yet a new Xbox or PlayStation--some think Microsoft may have a new device in the works, while almost no one foresees a PlayStation 4 any time soon--a new HD Wii would mean that Nintendo would have to lose money in the short term to build market share with a new device, even as the Wii would likely still be selling well.
All in all, it's hard to know how to take rumors like these. There are certainly some reasons to think Nintendo would want to go this direction, and there are other reasons why it wouldn't.
Eventually, of course, Nintendo will have to release a new console--and the traditional five-year console cycle would have the company coming out with a new one in 2011. But why mess with the kind of success the Wii is having?
Daniel Terdiman is a staff writer at CNET News covering games, Net culture, and everything in between. E-mail Daniel. 



I would hope that they focus on creating or encouraging the creation of more content designed for the platform to take advantage of it's unique capabilities rather the cross platform trash we see every day. Wii Sports showed the potential of the platform, but there has been very little beyond to fulfill it.
Nintendo slipped and has had to one up the competition by providing an innovative experience and backwards compatibility for the 12 people that bought game cubes. <jk> Nintendo needs to introduce an HD console before Sony and Microsoft introduce their next gen devices in part because the Wii still behind technology wise and while Sony and MS struggle to offer motion sensitive controllers Nintendo can ramp up the features of the Wii.
Backwards compatability was never a requirement in console gaming and played only a negligable part of the PS2's success. If anything DVD playback was the significant factor. Backwards compatability isn't even a concerning factor in todays consoles given the fact that the current PS3 models don't even play PS2 games anymore and updates to the 360's backwards compatability have stopped.
Nintendo has filled a market that needed filled and has seemingly found their niche in the market. Families everywhere are enjoying a huge range of titles that literally the entire family can play. While the Wii did have a lack of features it did offer an amazing array of titles that were truly just fun. While HD would be a nice addition I still do not feel it is required for the new Wii to be successful. Price point alone is enough for 80% to buy the Wii.
Wii is missing out on some games that could provide unique experience that you can' t get with x360 or ps3. Would be more awesome if they have a Blu-ray drive, a light media extender channel and a bit of local storage.
who knows, companies might stop using cds and start making downloadable games.
Sure blu-ray will own this dvd generation. But this generation won't last very long.
MS and Sony are already planning a new console for the future, believe me. With the rate the graphics technology is accelerating, 2011 is not very surprising. I'd expect a new console around this time from MS, Sony, and Nintendo. I don't think this "rumor" is anything legitimate. I think it's just common sense. From here on out we'll be seeing new consoles much quicker than we have in the past. With storage and graphics technologies advancing at such a quick rate, a 5 year life-span for a console is not unrealistic.
And let's face it, $3-500 every 5 years is not unrealistic for a piece of hardware. Most people upgrade their computers every 2-3 years, so why is it so shocking to upgrade a gaming console every 5? I don't expect my PC to last 5 years, so why should I expect a gaming console, which is much more dependent on hardware than a PC, to last that long?
I agree with rest that it is too early to say something about next console. I'm sure that new chip for it is already designed, yet what would the console offer to gamers is still unclear: that always can be changed in last moment (and N has history of surprises).
(If they're still having it...is it me or do you miss the old "thousands of people and developers" E3?)
I'm just saying....this past one looked like a small town auto show......lol i want "Detroit E3" back.
Blu-ray would be great on the high-performance machine!
Hard to say if lightning will strike twice for Nintendo. If the next Wii is merely an upgrade to the current one, I doubt it'll have the runaway success. The Wii as it is would certainly continue to be "good enough" for more than a few casual consumers, just like the PS2 continues to be "good enough" for quite a few buyers instead of ratcheting up to the more expensive PS3. What makes the Wii so desirable is the controller interface, and unless Nintendo somehow makes it even more immersive and involving for the user, then everything else is just marginal improvements that the casual fan won't necessarily feel any strong need to upgrade to. Yes there will be a LOT more HD television sets installed by 2011. Yes it would be great if the next Wii takes advantage of that. But the inherent positives of the today's Wii certainly hasn't been hurt by its relatively low-tech stature now, and it's hard to say if that going to be any different in only a couple of years.
I think the real reason the Wii is not as powerful as the Xbox or PS3 is that Nintendo didn't really have the resources to make something like that at the time. After the Gamecube, they were really on their last legs. If the Wii had failed, it would have been all over for Nintendo, you'd be seeing Mario on Xbox. At the time, they tried to put together something new and innovative that catered to the masses that would cost the least amount of money to develop and sell. Everyone and their mom has a DVD player, they didn't need to put it in the Wii. Most people just want to have fun and can do without the crazy graphics. They realized that and played off of that. That's how they got back on top.
That being said, Nintendo now has the ability to go and make a system with souped up graphics and other capabilities while subsidizing it enough to put it in the hands of the masses. Now all they do is develop the system, which obviously takes a lot of time and money, hence the 2011 alleged target.
- by mdad8200 December 20, 2008 1:31 PM PST
- I think it would be great to offer more than one console. XBox is not doing better due, in part, to the perception of it being a violent game console with hyper-real graphics. Wii escapes that and focuses on fun. Wii loses users who move from Pokeymon to COD and want better graphics and who needs HD for Wii fit? Longer term, integrating interactive play with better graphics opens up more options. The technology by 2011 will be commonplace. Blueray was a centerpeice of the Sony strategy, not because it was needed for PS3, but because it was needed by Sony Enterprises (the movie people). I think a differentiated product suite with better storage options and a DVD player would be nice sooner.
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Showing 1 of 2 pages (30 Comments)It may not make sense to have a full new console in 2008/9, but by 2011 the Wii will be old. Letting the other guys match your new ideas while letting your product age would be a great strategy to put Sony or MS back in the lead.