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April 24, 2008 6:50 AM PDT

When did Howard Stern jump the shark?

by Steve Guttenberg
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I first became a huge Howard Stern fan when he was on WNBC here in New York. This was back in the early 1980s when he radically advanced the state of the art of humor on the radio. Despite his huge ratings he had endless clashes with the NBC brass, which led to his firing. Clearly, the hostile environment wasn't a radio "bit," it was real. Stern was always keeping it real. It was all such compelling radio Stern based his biopic movie, "Private Parts," mostly on that time period.

After the NBC canning the self-proclaimed "King of All Media" moved to another NYC station, WXRK, where he was more comfortable and still amazingly funny.

I'd say he jumped the shark when he divorced his wife Alison in 2001. After all of those years of lusting after his female guests he was a free man. Some male listeners expected to be in on Stern's exploits as a single man, but he clammed up. Or maybe it was when his head writer and sidekick Jackie Martling left the show, also in 2001. The energy level dropped a few more points.

If he didn't jump the shark after those losses, Stern surely did after the move to Sirius Satellite Radio. Great, he was rich and uncensored, but the edge was completely gone. To me at least, he seems like he'd rather be somewhere else, enjoying his wealth. He's in his 50s, and the shock jock schtick is wearing thin.

What do you think? Does Stern still have it or has his talent faded away?

Steve Guttenberg is a frequent contributor to magazines and Web sites including Home Entertainment, Playback, and Ultimate AV. He is a member of the CNET Blog Network, and is not an employee of CNET. Disclosure.
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by turcomora April 24, 2008 7:08 AM PDT
Howard jump the shark? What are you talking about? He has single handidly put sirius satelite radio on the map. Taking them from 600k subscriptions to over 6 million in two years. Howard is one the main reasons that the FCC has not approved the merger between sirius and xm. Yes he is older and at times does show his age but his show still has the same edge and always provides hours of entertainment. He is the main reason that I have a life-time subscription to sirius. When he touches on a subject or a person usually they end up being one of the top rated searches on the web shortly after. Steve how much is Clear Channel paying you?
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by curious_george420 December 9, 2009 10:47 AM PST
that old has-been is OBSOLETE!
by curious_george420 December 9, 2009 10:47 AM PST
that old has-been is OBSOLETE!
by curious_george420 December 9, 2009 10:48 AM PST
did i mention he's OBSOLETE?!? hahaha
by Risky_Jim April 24, 2008 7:18 AM PDT
Steve
I have been a Stern listener for over 20 years. I used to listen when he was in Hartford on WCCC. Truthfully, I do not believe he has jumped the shark. The show on SIRIUS is edgier than ever and the content has gotten much better since he has gotten out from under the oppressive thumb of the FCC. The flow of the show has gotten more natural with the non-restrictive atmosphere of SIRIUS and I'm glad Jackie has left the show. Most listeners were sick of his whining about not being paid his worth. As a daily listener of the show, you should know that some details of Howard's single guy exploits do actually leak onto the airwaves (i.e. Angie Evehardt, Robin Givens,, etc...).

Howard's counterpart, Bubba the Love Sponge even complement's the SIRIUS channels lineup with some fresh outlook and perspective. I believe the show and the network are better than ever. Howard's honest, "slap in the face", perspective is not matched by anyone on the air right now and for the past twenty years. Can you name anyone with a larger more dedicated listener base? I really don't think so.
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by curious_george420 December 9, 2009 10:50 AM PST
howard stern minus FCC complications equals BORING and OBSOLETE! just deal with it.
by tekearp April 24, 2008 7:19 AM PDT
I too listened to Howard during the 80s in NY as I was with Deloitte and travelled there frequently for cllents. But after picking back up with him several years later, I was appalled at his decline and new focus only on $$$. In my opinion, those who think Howard is still at the top spend too much time getting their facts from Larry King Live.
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by topio April 24, 2008 10:27 AM PDT
Dropping my $0.02
I think one can appreciate your comment from two sides:
1.- Howard has been pushing the envelope so hard for the last 20 years that there is very envelope left to push.
2.- You and I do not necessarily like all of the same things that we liked 20 years ago. (I would make an exception for sex, food and music).

So, has he jumped the shark? not necessarily, has he changed? Yes, have we changed? yes.
is he the king of paid radio? Undoubtedly
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by curious_george420 December 9, 2009 10:51 AM PST
yay. king of PAID radio. really, of the 100 or so persons that still listen - eh, nevermind...this is getting boring.
by fiveliters April 25, 2008 7:44 AM PDT
I was never a big fan of Stern's,and when people in my office used to listen to him,I thought the only things he brought to the airwaves were strippers and lesbians (or lesbian strippers). This was during the late 90's. But one day I gave him a chance,and I haven't looked back since. I think that he hasn't 'jumped the shark', because he not only still has that edge that keeps his listeners loyal,but because he now has the freedom to really do and say what he wants on Sirius,he not only asks the questions most interviewers would never ask,but seems to get guests that other shows can't (or won't) get. He keeps things real, and discusses his foibles and most of his personal life just as much as when he was on terrestrial radio. He was the main reason I went to satellite,and is he still relevant? More than ever.
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by curious_george420 December 9, 2009 10:52 AM PST
you're wrong. sorry. he jumped the shark when he hit sirius.
by johnnysocko April 25, 2008 8:20 AM PDT
Stern lost me as a daily listener when he went to Sirius. As a XM subscriber, I just couldn't justify the cost of adding Sirius to my listening pleasure. You know what, I ended up tuning into other LOCAL talent, and have never really thought about Stern since. No withdrawl, no regrets. I agree with "topio" above, we all change. If Stern has changed, well at least he's not doing a Bob Hope, you know, the same thing for 50 years but expecting the same relevancy.
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by curious_george420 December 9, 2009 10:53 AM PST
well, sadly, you're a maroon for subbing to XM over sirius. duh.
by DigitalGypsy66 April 28, 2008 7:34 AM PDT
I think Howard jumped the shark when he hired the guy who created "Jump the Shark" to do his Friday Show and now the daily wrap up show. Just kidding.

With a toddler in the car, I don't really listen to Howard as much as I used to. I went from being able to listen to him all day at work, to now only catching 10-15 minutes a day. That's more than enough for me. I guess I've mellowed in my old age. ;)
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by curious_george420 December 9, 2009 10:53 AM PST
thanks for the stellar comment. nobody cares that you don't care anymore.
by ecyph April 28, 2008 8:27 PM PDT
Howard Stern is the one of the most talented interviewers and broadcasters to ever be on the airwaves. The medium of radio is extremely difficult to capture and hold an audience in this world of IPODS, Terrestrial radio, Satellite radio, etc. There's SO much choice, and for Howard to continue to attract an audience in the millions, well, at least to me, it's nothing short of remarkable.

Stern puts on a 4.5-5 hour show 4 days a week, and his schedule is murder...i can't even contemplate why he's been doing it this way for so many years, but you have to admire his tenacity. For a guy who has the pressure to constantly be on his game (the fans are extremely demanding) and push the envelope, and who is up at 4-5am at least 4 days a week, he's rarely sick, his work ethic is unbelievable and his dedication to providing a quality product to his fans is to be admired.

His interviews on Sirius have been nothing short of brilliant: if you can try to get his interview with Chris Rock, or when he had Darryl Hall on the show, it was riveting...the addition of George Takei as the announcer is just brilliant...I actually find myself wondering every couple of months "when's George coming back, we need to hear that laugh again."

It seems to me that you could easily sling **** at Howard for a lot of his past transgressions: for a long time at KROCK he was simply skating along and turning his show into a forum for strippers and he would really bully people in interviews... it was truly hard to listen to...but he's really past a lot of that schtick, and can concentrate more on refining some of his actual talents, like writing bits, creating situations, and doing quality interviews. The bottom line is that for the amount of hours that he is on the air over the course of a year, he's giving you a lot of value for your dollars in terms of content and laughs and generally competent interviews.
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by curious_george420 December 9, 2009 10:54 AM PST
you're facts are f*cked. oh well, suffice it to say, you're wrong.
by NYCgoalie April 30, 2008 9:38 AM PDT
Yes, Howard's fans are a devoted bunch. That's plain to see from the post above.

But the reality is...he's simply not reaching the size of market that he used to once he made the jump to satellite. And since the sales for Satellite radios has not exactly been the same as sales for DVD players or HD-TV sales (to put it kindly), he won't be as relevant to the mainstream as he used to be.

To say that "he's the main reason why the government is holding up the merger" between XM and Sirius is laughable. Truth is: both Satellite companies are money losers. It cost a lot of money to launch satellites, put in an infrastructure, etc. They thought Howard and others would convince people to pay for radio. Guess what...people were perfectly content to stick with thier iPods and not pony up for a new device which included a monthly subscription cost. If Howard were pulling in the millions of subscribers that was necessary to make Satellite radio a viable business, there would be no reason to even consider a merger in the first place (his huge salary doesn't help the beancounters books either).

Howard may be relevant to his fanbase...which I used to be a member of. But when I listened to him, his comedy was great for the price...free. But judging by the market, he jumped the shark when he started to charge $12.95 a month.
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by ivnprt May 1, 2008 11:38 AM PDT
Howard Stern is done! Stick a fork in him
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by sonecent May 7, 2008 5:02 PM PDT
Howard is hardlye entertaining. He is VERY one dimensional. I would never pay for radio, with commercials to boot!
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Ex movie theater projectionist Steve Guttenberg has more or less successfully hitched his future to home theater, but he still pines for the clickity-clack of 35 MM projectors and all the stale popcorn he could eat. Between projectionist gigs he worked as a high-end audio salesman for sixteen years, and produced records for an audiophile label. Oh, and one more thing, nothing annoys Steve more than being confused with the other Steve Guttenberg, the washed-up Police Academy actor. The wordsmith Guttenberg is a frequent contributor to a number of magazines and websites including Home Entertainment, Playback, and Ultimate AV. He is a member of the CNET Blog Network and is not an employee of CNET. Disclosure.

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