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February 26, 2008 6:57 AM PST

The future is here, and all I got were these awful little speakers

by Steve Guttenberg
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Which one sounds better?

(Credit: Steve Guttenberg)

When I was a kid in the 1960s I was obsessed with the future. The space program was in all its glory, the moon landing was within our grasp, and that, combined with rock music being at its creative peak, what more could a teenage boy ask for? The future looked bright, science would soon feed the starving, cure all disease, and technology would bring prosperity to the entire world. Once those humdrum needs were satisfied we could get to the fun stuff and develop personal flying gear, teleportation machines, and start colonizing other worlds. For kids, at least nerdy kids of my generation, the future couldn't happen fast enough.

Except now that the future has arrived it's kind of a letdown. Funny, back in the '60s we never imagined the internet and Dick Tracy never used his wristphone to listen to the Beatles. Strangest of all, no one dreams about the future any more, I guess we're done.

Sadly, 21st century audio technology has mostly been used to create ever cheaper and crappier audio--witness the boom of computer/PC and iPod speakers--but they're all laughably pitiful devices compared to what I was listening to 40 years ago. Yes, my long lost XAM brand speakers were comparatively gigantic but sounded awesome blasting Led Zeppelin and the Kinks. Music was so important we all wanted it to sound as good as possible; nowadays most buyers opt for the smallest possible speakers and/or cheapest possible price over sound quality. Good enough is a pretty low standard.

All of the technology advances of the intervening decades can't make a pint-size speaker sound like a hefty bookshelf or floorstanding model. Size definitely matters.

One of the prime 1960s future fantasies involved the "food pill." They predicted that in the future we would no longer need to eat food, we would just pop a pill that would provide perfectly balanced nutrition. The pills would supply the taste illusion of gourmet food, but without all the hassle of actually growing and preparing the food. Lucky for us the pills have yet to arrive, instead we got the Food Network, so millions of people can watch other people eat the yummiest food. Somehow the tiny pills turned into these awful little speakers.

Yes, they promise "studio quality" sound, but compared to any sort of decent bookshelf speaker, PC speakers sound like toys. They miniaturize not only sound, but also the music's soul. So it means less.

I'm not saying all PC speakers suck, just that the smaller they get, the smaller they sound (M-Audio's hefty Studiophile AV 40 ain't bad). Hey, if your space is that cramped it might make more sense to use headphones rather than any speakers at all. Take Grado's SR60 headphones, they sound worlds better than any micro-mini speaker I've heard.

Steve Guttenberg is a frequent contributor to magazines and Web sites including Home Entertainment, Playback, and Ultimate AV. He is a member of the CNET Blog Network, and is not an employee of CNET. Disclosure.
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by schtan February 26, 2008 7:52 AM PST
hello...i googled up some XAM speakers , craigs list in Philly feb 20 , ah yes , big woofer and little tweeter...my first experience with better sound was late 60s at a friends house and some AR something speakers , wow i thought and my big boxes at home could not match them no matter how loud i played them...thus began my beer budget journey to better sound...schtahn
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by Wes#1 February 26, 2008 7:53 AM PST
Right on, Steve! I was one of those '60s nerds who believed that if we could put a man on the moon, anything was going to be possible in short order... and we dreamed! I also had a personal "mission" to improve my audio gear at every opportunity, including spending most all of my money from summer jobs on upgraded speakers, amps, tape decks, etc. The large speaker in your photo looks like the AR-3a, which I drooled over (but could not afford) in the '60s. But it provided a reference I worked towards.

And while reading your article, I could not help but recall a line from "A Clockwork Orange" (1971) when the protagonist, Alex, approaches a girl in a record shop and says: "What you got back home to play your fuzzy warbles (records) on, little sister? I bet you got pitiful, portable picnic players. Come hear all proper. Hear angel trumpets and devil trombones!" OK, they didn't exactly go back to his place to hear music... but the parallel today would be about earbuds and "pitiful, portable" iPod speakers, and Alex would probably just have plastic satellites and mid-subs to play his highly-compressed downloads on. And nobody would blink.

I think the loss of the many independent "hi-fi" salons from 30 or so years ago, to the big-box retailers like Circuit City and Best Buy, may have contributed to today's lack of appreciation for achieving great sound at home. If you've ever tried to audition speakers or ANY piece of audio equipment in those stores, you know what a challenge it is. "Good enough" is what most people walk out with, never knowing that for a few dollars more, better equipment (heard under controlled & sane listening conditions) can offer a world of stunning music reproduction and pleasure they are continuing to miss out on.

Keep stoking the fire, Steve! You never know what curiosity you may stir up -- what earbuds you may pop!
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by jutell February 26, 2008 10:43 AM PST
xam was the house brand for korvette dept. stores--not very good. my choice for budget audio was my dynaco a25's--they got me thrown out of my apartment.
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by epitone February 27, 2008 12:26 PM PST
Apples, meet oranges.

Small PC speakers are not a replacement for bookshelf speakers. They are a different product entirely. It's like telling someone in workout shorts and a tank top that they'd be much better off in an Armani suit.

I also find it interesting that you decry the quality of PC music in one post, then imply that we should be running our crappy PC music through fancy speakers in the next. If we're going to insist on crappy music, can't we at least save money on speakers?
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by 2channellives February 27, 2008 9:27 PM PST
Steve, all I can say is Thank Goodness I am not alone. And Wes, you are correct that the big box movers have severally impacted our ability to purchase great audio gear. I own a company that carries some of the most exceptional Italian and Austrian speakers available and we feel very fortunate that we can save a few souls from bad audio. So keep up the good work, there are many of us that still enjoy music and know that we deserve better then some $29 computer speakers.
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by adlieb February 28, 2008 4:12 AM PST
I remember the first time I had really heard PC audio. It was over my friends house playing a PC game (Syndicate I believe was the game), and I heard this sound coming out of these massive floor standing speakers that my buddies dad had in the office. I was rocked out by the depth of the sound. In that same regard I now run my PC audio, digital coax out, to my Denon AVR 2807 through my surround system, and it could never be better.

I might also want to add, that I do not download any music. I do not have a track of music on computer in a .MP3 format (WMA Lossless or FLAC only). I also do not own an MP3 player (would rather just tune into the radio, or listen to a portable CD player, which I do own and use), and I will not own an MP3 player until there is one out there that has full FLAC or WMA lossless playback.

For you Steve, I'd just like to let you know that I try to turn as many people as possible onto lossless formatted digital audio, and to stay as true to the original source material as possible (analog being the best in most cases). I worked for one of the Big Box stores for two years, and it was my personal goal to get people into the best audio products that I could possibly provide for them, and it was rarely BOSE.
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by minimalist February 28, 2008 4:19 PM PST
You'll get no argument from me that you need size and weight to move air. Computer speakers mostly suck. But speakers don't have to be ugly to look at either. Satellite/sub systems are perfect for those of use who want good sound and some understatement.

But its also glib to blame the demise of boutique audio retailers on the rise of big retailers. There a lot of things that specialty audio retailers are doing wrong:

1. People want it to look good and not take a PhD to get buy and set up. Despite many audiophiles dismissal of Bose systems, this is something that company understand about the market. Same thing with many less than stellar home theater in a box system. Looks and ease of entry matter.

2. Put your product out there. If you hide out in the ghettos that are audiophile shops, you make yourself invisible to anybody but the already initiated. Why are so few companies not taking advantage of the huge playing feild leveler that is the internet and selling factory direct or offering 30 day trial periods?
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by coprock February 29, 2008 10:09 AM PST
I too have an affinity for old speakers, with nice cabinets and a bit of heft to them. Best of all, many are available at tremendously low prices via ebay. If built well, they can last for a long time. Give me an old set of ADS speakers and I will be a very happy person.

Bose is a lifestyle decision and for those who purchase that "stuff", the benefits of a real system would be lost on them anyway. I almost fell out of my chair last night laughing when I saw an add for the Bose table top radio. It had an image of a large stereo fading to an image of their little plastic radio, with commentary saying "do you remember when you used to need all of this equipment to get great sound...not anymore." What was hilarious was the image looked like a pair of ADCOM separates and some nice 80's era large Infinity speakers with twin woofers. The suggestion that a table radio with 2.5" speakers could perform as well is completely ludicrous.

I agree that Bose has figured out its market, however the idea that "People want it to look good and not take a PhD to get buy and set up" is too much. If you can't connect speaker wire to a receiver and speakers then you probably should not be driving a car, leaving the house or voting for that matter. Bose products kind of look like crap too. The wave and table radio could pass for Sharper Image ionic breeze air purifiers.



People want it to look good and not take a PhD to get buy and set up.
by minimalist February 29, 2008 4:58 PM PST
[i]"If you can't connect speaker wire to a receiver and speakers then you probably should not be driving a car, leaving the house or voting for that matter.

Bose products kind of look like crap too. The wave and table radio could pass for Sharper Image ionic breeze air purifiers."[/i]

Sneering down your nose at people who buy Bose systems helps nothing. Dismissing their success as nothing more than clever marketing is glib. And it totally misses the lesson high end companies have to learn from Bose, Sony, and numerous other makers of prepackaged home theater systems: you aren't listening to what the people want.... and it isn't just cheap stuff (Bose's relatively expensive but good selling systems are proof positive of this).

Home theater ain't exactly easy to understand to begin with... and its not going to help you sell your products when you scoff at people who want a simple, good looking, all in one solution that they don't have to travel hundreds of miles to a specialty audio reseller to piece together.
by Michael Yeo March 1, 2008 1:12 AM PST
Computer speakers cannot be compared with book shelf and floor standing speakers. If we want to compare computer speakers, we ought to make comparison purely on computer speakers. Some computer speakers produce better sound than other speakers and here I am comparing computer speakers.

It is the same as why is the sound of a floor standing speaker in general produces better sound than a bookshelf speaker. It is the internal space of the speaker box that matter. In the heydays, we generally judge a speaker by the weight and the timber used to form the box.

This is one aspect that the new technology has overcome. Despite generally lighter, the sound quality of some floor standing or bookshelf speakers are better off than those older ones.

Another comparison is between a box speakers and the small satelite cube speakers such as Boss. Without the subwoofer, these satelite speakers does not produce what one gets from a normal speaker.

When listening to music, one does not need to turn on the subwoofer for normal speakers but this is not the case for cube satelite speakers (correct me if I am wrong).

To summarise the above, the size and quality of speakers has an impact on the overall sound quality. Even if we were to compare box speakers (floor standing or bookshelf), it does not imply that the more expensive speakers produce better sound in general than the cheaper ones.

It all voiced down to individual hearing preferences.

P.S: Hi-fi system is one of my hobbies for over 30 years.
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by mcd0234 March 4, 2008 4:22 AM PST
I don't know if you read the comments, but I was just asking you to do this Steve in my comments two stories ago, so thank you. I appreciate you've listed a couple of options there and I know you don't use this forum as review column, but any other speakers you've heard hooked up to the computer that are decent would help. I need to replace my old Monsoon's and all the speakers I can hook up to my computer have sounded terrible so far. I was looking at the M-Audio AV40 which is a weird coincidence, but then they seemed to get luke warm comments from people, but I personally think people equate huge bass with good sound these days so am a bit wary of comments left by most people.

I think I will order them to try out. I find it astonishing that there just aren't any decent quality speakers that can be hooked up to your computer - even if they are a little larger than normal and need to be placed on stands next to your computer, some company out there surely must realize there are a few people who want quality. Even if they took some good but basic quality JBL or Polk (big name would get better sales presumably) and give them an internal amplifier so we can use them with the computer directly, if would probably help no end. I do thank you for writing about it, as I too find it very annoying. I love my B&W speakers in my living room, but I want something that's atleast decent to listen to all the thousands upon thousands of albums I have saved pristinely (mostly lossless format) on my computer whilst I sit at it for hours on end working each day.
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by notromllib March 15, 2008 7:09 AM PDT
Excelent blast from the past. I too thought the photo speakers were the AR's, needless to say it was a time when sound quality was pertinent to all other factors. Plus we were all on a serious budget. I too wanted the AR's for the acoustic suspention sound they put forth. They offered tight base with balanced mids/highs (they were two way). The others were offering vented (ie. BIC) and ported (cerwin vega). For me they were too boomy. I looked for a long time because I didn't have the bucks for the sound I wanted. I then heard the Klipschorns. I had never believed sound could be felt as well as heard with such detail. I was hooked. Well I had to settle for the smallest of the Klipsch, the Heresy's (in walnut of course). It was the best purchase I ever made. Yes one can argue that they have flaws but they were the best bang and the most efficient speaker out there. I now didn't have to buy more power to drive "better' speakers. So I matched the speakers to the reciever. I chose Denon class "A" reciever. Like I said the budget wouldn't allow for the Luxman. I still have those same speakers. And as I have gotten older my musical tastes as well as what I can hear has changed. And as I change, the speakers remain the same. I just change the front end. I started with the klipsch, Denon and CJ Walker. I now run a digital front end with an NAD pre-amp and amp. I also picked up a pair of the Heresy's pro version called the KP250's. They are a ported version of the originals and produce a completely different sound quality . But depending on what I'm listening to I have choices in sound. Yes there are plenty of better and much more expensive choices (KEF, B&W) but I didn't have the cash. I have yet to hear from the big outlets a better value then what I have from 25 years ago. There is no substitute for cubic inches! Thanks for the walk back in time.
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by mrwgd March 23, 2008 8:24 PM PDT
I bought a pair of Marantz 880 tower speakers in 1979 , yes that's right 1979. they were rated the best speakers at the time . 4 speakers , 2" pizo 3" pizo 5 " midrange and a earth stomping 12 inch woofer. Yes Ive had them worked on the rubber replace on the 12 ".
It was well worth the $70 I was charged. 29 years old and still rocking as good as the day I got them. I was at a demonstration of the Bose wave system. Which cost a grand.
It was sad to hear something that's said to be one of the best sounding system sound like what it really was a clock radio. You get what you pay for my speakers were $1400
and worth every penny . I have seen several pair over the years for sale . Grab them if you can test them check the speaker rubber and you will be very satisfied.
OL SKOOL, yep sure is and you can't compare the sound to the poor excuse that's being sold on the market today. . Get real now ,,,, you know your not going to get great sound out of a 4 inch square box and a sub woofer. Bose again . Go back to ol skool and get the real thing . mrwgd
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by save-me April 1, 2008 10:59 PM PDT
2channellives:

Sonus faber & Vienna Acoustics?

Thank you Sumiko! These guys keep the torch going!!
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Ex movie theater projectionist Steve Guttenberg has more or less successfully hitched his future to home theater, but he still pines for the clickity-clack of 35 MM projectors and all the stale popcorn he could eat. Between projectionist gigs he worked as a high-end audio salesman for sixteen years, and produced records for an audiophile label. Oh, and one more thing, nothing annoys Steve more than being confused with the other Steve Guttenberg, the washed-up Police Academy actor. The wordsmith Guttenberg is a frequent contributor to a number of magazines and websites including Home Entertainment, Playback, and Ultimate AV. He is a member of the CNET Blog Network and is not an employee of CNET. Disclosure.

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