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June 28, 2009 7:24 AM PDT

Mixtapes vs. playlists

by Steve Guttenberg

A little musical time capsule

(Credit: Steve Guttenberg)

Making a cassette mixtape in the 1970s was a labor-intensive effort.

Cueing up a LP or 45 single, dropping the needle and releasing the recorder's "pause" button required a deft touch. If you didn't get it just right, you'd either have too much lead-in groove time before the tune started, or start too late and cut off the first second of the next song.

Mess up, and you have to stop, back up the tape, recue and start the process over again. Oh, and you'd have to carefully match the record volume level of each new tune, or suffer the consequences of a too loud/too soft varying volume mixtape. The horror!

Sometimes in the middle of a mixtape session I'd stop and review what I had so far. That could be scary, especially when I discovered the fourth song of the eight I laid down interrupted the flow. I'd have to go back and start again after the third song. It could easily take seven or eight hours to make a 90-minute tape.

Mix CDs were a little easier to make, but since I never used rerecordable CDs, if I made a mistake I'd have to trash the disc and start over. My early CD mixes freely mixed vinyl and CD music, which added to the complexity of the effort.

No matter the recording medium the art of making great mixtapes was picking and sequencing the right tunes. That's still the same, even for MP3 playlists.

Do you still make mixes?

For yourself or to give away to friends?

Steve Guttenberg is a frequent contributor to magazines and Web sites including Home Entertainment, Playback, and Ultimate AV. He is a member of the CNET Blog Network, and is not an employee of CNET. Disclosure.
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by soundman45 June 28, 2009 9:08 AM PDT
I owned a Teac 3 head Cassette Deck in the late seventies/early eighties. Making mix tapes was simple with a 3 head deck. Unlike a two head deck you could listen to playback then toggle to input while you adjusted levels. It was all a matter of timing and practice.
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by one_flat_monkey June 28, 2009 6:37 PM PDT
in the Seventies, i bought a Tascam Model 3 mixer and two Technics SL-1700 turntables, and made mix tapes that have segues just like FM radio in those days. i still have some of the tapes i made then. i had an Akai GXC -570D cassette deck. the list price was $850. it was sweet.

take a look: http://www.vintagecassette.com/Akai/GXC-570D.

i bought a Casio watch with a countdown timer. a 45 minute cassette tape actually has about 46:30, if you bought good Maxell tape. i set the timer and started recording/mixing. i could finish a complete two sided tape in less than two hours. normally, i would spend about 10 or 15 minutes picking out records before i started recording.

that was huge fun.
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by Native5280 June 29, 2009 7:38 AM PDT
In the '80s, I made mix tapes from CDs using my Pioneer 6-disc changer (remember the one that had cartridges?). I could program up 6 tracks with a pause between each track and record them to my Yamaha cassette deck (an "auto-reverse" model with a remote). In the late 1990s, I started making Minidiscs. MDs were way-cooler than cassettes because of the editing capabilities (moving tracks around, deleting tracks, inserting new ones, all in post-production on the disc itself!). I don't make mix tapes any more (I still have the Yamaha but I don't know if it's hooked up and the Sony MD deck died years ago), but I still make mix CDs.

The thing I didn't like about making CDs vs. making mix tapes (or mix MDs) was *where* the experience took place: in front of my computer instead of sitting down on the floor in front of the stereo. These days, I just use the built-in Superdrive on my Mac. True, it's much, much more convenient to program an iTunes playlist and click "Burn disc", but there's something, um..."human" missing from the process. Also, because the computer burns the CD at high speed, you don't get the pleasure of listening to the music as it's being recorded.

Every mix CD is a production. I buy ink-jet printable CDs and I create designs for the disc (I recently discovered "hub printable CDs" -- Whoohoo!). Sometimes I even create the CD case artwork. I suppose that makes up for the by-hand effort that went into the mix tape.

I don't make playlists for the sake of it being only a playlist. Every playlist I start is with the CD in mind, even if it doesn't end up on a CD. Making a CD is taking the music and committing it to physical media. You're telling the world "This is the album I created." Making a playlist is just making a list of songs. There's nothing keeping me from changing the list on a day to day basis. While that's find for casual listening, there collection of tracks is not enduring, not indelible.

And you really can't design artwork for a playlist.
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by one_flat_monkey June 29, 2009 10:33 AM PDT
You can design artwork for a playlist. It's not necessarily original artwork: i've taken an image of a viking helmet and merged it with a pineapple in a photo editing program. Voila: Viking Pineapple. That's the name of my fake"production company". I've invented band names galore, and I've got a dumb DJ program that makes "dance" tracks. I'm really a novice, so the "music" is plagued by a degree of torpor rarely experienced in "music". As an aside, my nephew is in a band -- in Finland -- and he is a Sonic Forge genius. It's all diversion with varying degrees of obsessiveness. I can see your level of commitment to the creative process goes in a different direction from mine, but the levels aren't far apart, at least to my narrow view.
by tomsoundman June 29, 2009 12:06 PM PDT
Just talking the other day to a local recording studio owner about Mini Discs. That was a great medium for the time.
A few years ago, those players were used by a lot of Southern Gospel groups in Appalachia because of the ease of making "mix tapes" for playback of soundtracks to sing with.

Did have a friend with a small time video business that tried them out for recording audio feeds but he could never get the copyright stuff correct on his Sony player so he still reminds me of that time to time...

Good story, I got a little off track but I sure used to spend a lot of time in the 80's laboring over mix cassette tapes. My Pioneer system got a workout!
by Freeradical79 June 30, 2009 3:41 AM PDT
"I made mix tapes from CDs using my Pioneer 6-disc changer (remember the one that had cartridges?"

Hahaha! Me too =) My folks bought a complete Pioneer system circa 1990 with CD-Synchro so you program away and then leave the deck to it. Combined with auto-sound leveling on the tape deck and auto-reverse. AND REMOTE! I remember it seemed like pure magic after the previous HiFi which was a manual mongrel system.

But I have such fond memories of sitting on the floor in the dining room (this was in the day when the TV and HiFi were very separate entities) with CDs and Vinyls all over the floor, balancing the recording levels and carefully cueing up tracks etc =)

I was still an avid mix-CD maker up until 2005. I would quite commonly make a mix-CD for friends of new music, or old tunes, or whatever =) I made one last week for a friends birthday (he is the only guy I know with no iPod etc) and he was thrilled. Now, the iPod/iTunes is so ubiquitous that we share playlists, via yousendit or something similar.
by one_flat_monkey June 29, 2009 6:20 PM PDT
Oh, by the way...did anyone buy those lousy Sony cassettes? I bought the best Maxell.
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by pubmat June 30, 2009 9:15 AM PDT
Me too. Maxell, or the other guys....what was their name?
by Native5280 June 30, 2009 2:16 PM PDT
I bought Sony tapes, including the obscure Type III (FeCr or something like that). As I recall, they were Type I (normal bias), Type II (Chrome, or high bias), Type III (FeCr?) and Type IV (metal).

I bought TDK tapes, too. And BASF. And Maxell. And Memorex. The most aesthetically pleasing (well, to my eye) were the the blue Memorex high bias tapes, but in in the end I stuck with TDK with the really wide clear tape-viewing-window. I'm sure there were other brands I tried, but I don't recall now. I bought "bricks" of cassettes for the best price. Always Type II (Chrom/high bias) for best quality.

I bought 90 minute tapes because you could put a whole album (vinyl, that is) on one side, plus one or two singles. 120 minute tapes were too thin (I once bought a 160 minute tape that broke).
by unimportant June 30, 2009 9:50 AM PDT
I swore by TDK tapes back in the day, but during college, friends held an intervention to ask me to never, never make a mixtape again. It turns out I was the only one who appreciated mixing African Soukous, thrash metal, and bebop/hiphop mashups on the same tape... I've lost the habit of making them now and imposing my odd sensibilities on friends seems rude to me these days. I've offered let people browse my iTunes and burn samples of whatever they want, but they just get nonplussed by the diversity and size of the collection. My days of friendly, fair-use sharing seem to be over.
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by Native5280 June 30, 2009 3:06 PM PDT
BTW, Thanks Steve for writing this article. It got me thinking about old mix tapes I made as a kid and this afternoon I searched around and found a few tapes that I mixed 30[!!] years ago. Not on Memorex, Sony or even TDK, but "Scotch". These were tapes from the decadent year of 1978 (and I was 15). Unfortunately, my 7 year old daughter told me she isn't interested in listening to the Bee Gees cover the Beatles, so I'll have to listen to them some other time.

One thing about mix tapes that probably doesn't apply to playlists is that tapes become time capsules for music. I was hoping to find a tape that actually had my voice on it (bonus points if it was one where I was playing DJ and introducing songs) but unfortunately I couldn't find one--I'm sure my daughter would have loved to hear what I sounded like when I was a kid.
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by TheTurntableFactory June 30, 2009 5:24 PM PDT
I used to make "mixed tapes" for myself and my friends in the 80's. Yes, it was labour intensive, and I got sick of hearing the same songs over and over. But it was our way of sharing our interest in music at the time. I was still doing it in to the 90's, but by that time, it was easier for me to do as I was a DJ at a local radio station and would just tape my show off the air. I made a "mixed CD" for a DJ friend last Friday after MJ passed, it was several remixed MJ songs that I know are difficult to come by, plus one from Obsure FM. I still have my "mixed tape" collection, most of which have been transfered onto CDs so that I can listen to them in my car.
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by Freeradical79 July 2, 2009 3:18 AM PDT
Favourite tape? My Dad and I backed up all our high rotation LPs to TDK SA90s, and those tapes were strictly for playing on the "good" tape deck on the HiFi, not allowed in portables etc. They were usurped in 2001 when all the vinyls got backed up to mp3. Some of those tapes are still being played in my Mums decade old car.

For the boomboxes and car players we bought a box of Sony "walkman" brand tapes which were supposed to be more durable, heat resistant etc. But I remember finally reverting to Maxell tapes that you could buy in the local supermarket.
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by minimalist July 7, 2009 7:28 PM PDT
I used to love mixed tapes. Its how my family and friends and I shared new music and became acquainted with new bands. There was something nice about the love and care that went into one of these that a shared playlist or a mixed CD just can't duplicate.

I don't have that kind of free time anymore. So even if I were to go back to the mix tape I'm not sure I'd get many of them made now. But they were certainly fun while they lasted.


Now I just find out about music in different ways (music review sites and good web radio stations being the primary methods).
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by SprkJonz July 15, 2009 12:49 PM PDT
I make playlists and mix CDs, but I miss the mix tape medium and what it offered that playlists don't, including:
1) On a mix tape, I could easily fade out songs that ran too long. For a playlist, I'd have to copy the track, edit the file and then add it to the playlist
2) Mix tapes allowed for varied crossfades, depending on the need. Sure you can crossfade with some mp3 players, etc., but not with the freedom tapes offered
3) Mix tapes had A side and B side. This allowed for one mix tape theme with two completely separate song flows - kinda like two personalities on the same music story.
4) Mix tapes engaged the audience. For one thing, people recognized the hard work in creating a tape and would give it the deserved attention. Second, it was harder to skip songs on a tape so the audience would be captive, listening to the entire mix and appreciating the flow between songs.
5) Despite digital capabilities, back-ups, etc., it almost seems easier to lose or corrupt a playlist file than losing or destroying an audio cassette!
6) It's easier to hand a non-techie a mix tape than it is to copy digital tracks and a playlist and hope they can transfer it to their computer, walkman, etc.
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by STARWOBBLE August 10, 2009 6:57 PM PDT
My old 1995 cirrus that I drove when I first turned 16 had a tape deck. I was too cheap to buy a tape deck converter for my 128 megabyte rio I had at the time, so I would build a playlist on my computer and run the audio out from the computer to the audio in on my sony boombox and record mp3 mix cd's that way.
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by amfx22000 August 13, 2009 11:06 AM PDT
Playlists are better. Mixtapes have the same inherent flaw that vinyl and cassette have: they need to be REALLY good. I'm never in the mood to cue up a vinyl I don't like front-to-back, and fast-forwarding through cassettes can be really annoying. With playlists, you can jump to the best song or two on your friend's ****** playlist. A mixtape from someone with bad taste... would be pure torture.
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Ex movie theater projectionist Steve Guttenberg has more or less successfully hitched his future to home theater, but he still pines for the clickity-clack of 35 MM projectors and all the stale popcorn he could eat. Between projectionist gigs he worked as a high-end audio salesman for sixteen years, and produced records for an audiophile label. Oh, and one more thing, nothing annoys Steve more than being confused with the other Steve Guttenberg, the washed-up Police Academy actor. The wordsmith Guttenberg is a frequent contributor to a number of magazines and websites including Home Entertainment, Playback, and Ultimate AV. He is a member of the CNET Blog Network and is not an employee of CNET. Disclosure.

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