April 2, 2009 7:05 AM PDT

Poll: The most atrocious-sounding music

by Steve Guttenberg
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The worst sounding recording of 2007, so far.

Iffy sound quality isn't a new problem. Bad sound can't directly be blamed on digital, analog, vinyl, CD, or even MP3. Those are release formats; the quality of the recording itself is what I'm talking about.

Granted, personal taste plays a big part in defining good or bad sound. For every person who says the sound is clear and detailed, there's another who thinks it's ragged and harsh.

That said, the trend of late is toward spitty distortion, the kind that obscures the sound of the vocals and instruments, and buries them in grunge. I'm not opposed to grit that adds an edge to music, but I can't stand recordings made by people who either don't know what they're doing or are too deaf to notice the error of their ways.

Bob Dylan, of all people, agrees with me.

"You listen to these modern records--they're atrocious, they have sound all over them. There's no definition of nothing, no vocal, no nothing, just like--static," Dylan said in a Rolling Stone interview with Jonathan Lethem in September 2006.

He's not just referring to other people's records; he included his own record, "Modern Times," in his rant: "Even these songs probably sounded 10 times better in the studio when we recorded 'em." I believe Dylan. That album was a blurry wall of sound. You can hardly hear individual instruments.

The worst recording of 2009 so far--it's still early--is the Heartless Bastards' "The Mountain" CD. It's too bad because I really like the music. It rocks hard, and I love Erika Wennerstrom's strange voice, but there's severe distortion whenever she sings loud.

The distortion was so incredibly annoying that my speakers' tweeters sounded broken. If the distortion just appeared on the hard-edged, bluesier numbers, I might have thought that it was intentional, but the sound was just as ragged on "So Quiet," in which Wennerstrom is accompanied by violin.

The vocal distortion varies from tune to tune. It's worst on "Could Be So Happy," another acoustic tune. Besides the distortion, the sound is dynamically compressed to the hilt, so despite the music's undeniable passion, it sounds lifeless.

I'm frustrated, I like the music, but I can't listen to it without wincing. For what it's worth, "The Mountain" was mastered by Howie Weinberg. Nice job!

Runner up for worst sound of the year: Bruce Springsteen's "Working on a Dream." What a mess! That's true for most of the Boss' albums, but the sound of "Dream" may be the worst in any Springsteen album to date.

Tell us about your picks for worst sound of the year, or all time worst sound.

Steve Guttenberg is a frequent contributor to magazines and Web sites including Home Entertainment, Playback, and Ultimate AV. He is a member of the CNET Blog Network, and is not an employee of CNET. Disclosure.
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by d06svt April 2, 2009 8:30 AM PDT
I would have to say that the worst sounding album I've heard recently is Metallica's 2008 album, Death Magnetic. The recording was just so bad on so many levels!
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by dude7895 April 2, 2009 12:22 PM PDT
I actually thought Death Magnetic was pretty good, compared to other of Metallicas recent albums.
by nnewbrunswick April 2, 2009 12:42 PM PDT
I know. What a terrible job. Too bad because I thought the songs themselves were pretty good, but the sound...just terrible. I ended up downloading a ripped version of the RockStar of Guitar Hero game (I have no idea which one). It sounded better, but still not as good as it should.
by gtdtm April 2, 2009 12:42 PM PDT
Death Magnetic does have great songs, but the distortion is terrible, and it really ruins the music.
by mrkandersn April 2, 2009 4:35 PM PDT
I agree wholeheartedly (even though it's a 2008 release), that's the first album that popped into my head. I only own standard consumer-grade audio equipment, but that album just sounds ghastly. I like the album musically, but it's too frustrating to listen to for very long.
by njjay2008 April 2, 2009 9:10 AM PDT
I get so frigging frustrated that the best sound systems most people have is in their cars. As a musician, I can't stand to have my music put up on the web for people to listen to since computer speakers (especially on laptops) suck and that when I use a website like myspace, they only allow compressed MP3s to be uploaded (but unfortunately, it's one of the most convienent ways to promote yourself) I guess CHEAP IS CHEAP and if you want quality sound in music you have to pay.
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by 3rdalbum April 2, 2009 10:05 AM PDT
They figure that everyone who listens to music, does so on an iPod or a similarly low-quality MP3 player. I'm glad I'm not a fan of any of those artists you mentioned. I paid a little more for my Sony Walkman because it gives great sound; I'd be really pissed if the source recording was terrible.
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by DoughboyNJ April 2, 2009 11:38 AM PDT
Folks, we're not talking about people having cheap speakers or sound equip., or about the sound quality of MP3s. We're talking about recording engineers who don't know how to transfer what must have been great sounding recordings in the study, to media - usually CD.

Its obvious that people are just clicking on a button to transfer the final finished product from its working state into CD audio format, without checking on the final product. And from what I understand, the algorithms are generally designed to peg the total sound energy on the CD at maximum, as studies have shown that people rank loud-sounding music as better-sounding. So they crank the levels to the max, or use software that does it for them.

You want another bad example? Try Rush Vapor Trails. Unlistenable. Good music ruined by bad engineering and or bad QA.
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by The_DigitalKid April 2, 2009 12:54 PM PDT
Oh DoughboyNJ, I agree wholeheartedly with you on the poor mastering of Rush Vapor Trails. One Little Victory, is pumped so loud it almost sounds grainy. In my mind I can see the mixing board at the recording studio with everything turned up to "11" a la Spinal Tap.
by StrangeRover1 September 21, 2009 8:47 AM PDT
Unfortunately, it's not as simple as people not knowing what they're doing. Mastering engineers especially are under huge pressure to make the music as loud as possible. This pressure comes from the labels and often from the artists themselves. What is not clear is whether there is any actual demand from consumers for this too-loud, squashed-out sound.

I'n many, many cases mastering engineers know exactly what they're doing and they go home hating themselves for it.
by Inconnux April 2, 2009 11:48 AM PDT
Isn't this called 'wall of sound' technique of recording? sounds like it has been taken to the extreme.
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by invisible21 April 2, 2009 12:01 PM PDT
I agree with the comment about the Metallica album (although that was last year). Interestingly enough I attended the AES (Audio Engineering Society) conference in SF last October and that album was the talk of the convention. There were a few workshops discussing Loudness and Compression (dynamic) and they most of the panel members either used the Metallica album as an example or at minimum referred to it as an example of how not to master an album.

I also agree with this article in general about being disappointed in a lot of the new music coming out these days. I here countless new artists that just muddy up their sound to the point where it sounds like it was recorded on a 4-track by a bunch of amateurs. I realize this was probably done intentionally most of the time but it bothers me to no end because I can tell that the music itself is great but they're trying so hard to be edgy and hip that they cover it up with distortion.
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by BiggYosh April 2, 2009 1:06 PM PDT
I am a huge Springsteen fan and I have purchased every format of every album that is available. (download, vinyl, cd, cassette, etc) And you are, without a doubt, correct on your statement that Working on a Dream just sounds bad. Do you think that older musicians are losing confidence in there natural voice and abilities so they try to make up for with f/x?
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by workshopmusic April 2, 2009 1:23 PM PDT
Using too much compression definitely squashes the life and the dynamics out of recorded music.

This kind of casually automated and rough production treatment probably reflects a different way of "using" or "consuming" music.

Music may be background for running or working out. Some of the music may be temporary, low-value, trendy "hits" loaded on a player in a lossy format, heard passively a few times and forgotten.

"Using" or "consuming" music is nothing at all like active listening to a piece of music for the sake of getting inside it and really hearing its musical language.
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by troyoverton April 2, 2009 1:40 PM PDT
While I really like the digital era of being able to record music, and all of the fantastic tools that are available, I find it no surprise that the LP is making a small comeback in popularity.

Case in point: Listen to Pink Floyd's "Wish You Were Here" on a CD. and if you are so lucky, find an audiophile with that same song on the original album. There's no contest! The hiss and hum on that record is incomparable. In the digital arena, our music is losing its analog flavor, and its killing the passion that goes into a recording. Music has a life, and how its recorded and presented is crucial to its existence.

The retort I would like to give to nijay's comment is this: Now that our music is digital, there is no generational loss from recording to recording. That's the complaint. A copy is just as good as the original. That's the crux of the RIAA's whole argument. (Not that the original is that good, however...)

What bothers me about that, (since Metallica is specifically mentioned here) is that they themselves have been one of the biggest beneficiaries of the underground tape trade. Had that not happened, would Metallica the machine that it did? I would guess not.

Either way, if you are going to master any recording, take the time to learn your equipment, understand how it works and WHY it works. When you press a master, let a few folks take a listen, and take the comments as constructive criticism. I personally like a thick, deep bass in my tunes, to drive them... But is that necessary on a 100 piece orchestra?

Recording is an art. It's part understanding what the artist is trying to achieve, and helping them to reach that end. They have an idea of what the painting is going to look like, its up to that engineer to make sure he is using the right brushes and colors. Every artist and every recording is different.

I would also encourage folks to venture out to a local place to see some good live music. I've always felt that some of the best musicians the world over are people who will never be widely known. I watched a show once by this guy from Columbus, OH, and his technical mastery of his gear was just as impressive as his music and stage presence. Great show, and he'll never be famous because he knows more about what he's doing than most engineers that a label would pair him with.
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by scottyrob April 2, 2009 1:41 PM PDT
I would put anything techno as the worst sounding album.
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by hgoodmans April 2, 2009 2:19 PM PDT
I concur on the choice of Death Magnetic, and so many others especially in the last 4-5 years. It's depressing when so many of the CDs from the late 80's and 90's have such superior sound quality, due to the (relative) lack of compression. I remember the days when producers/engineers like Alan Parsons, Bob Clearmountain, Jimmy Iovine, David Lord used the 'new' CD to exploit the creative possibilities of dynamic range. Even when moderately compressed (say, for example, The Cars 'Shake It Up'), wide and fast analog tape tends to overload relatively gracefully, so you just get a thicker sound until the distortion actually occurs, and the effect can even be pleasing when done in moderation.

With modern equipment, when you get overload, it's HARD.

The other sad thing is, that's IT. When it's on tape/disc/final audio file and out to the public, figure that's the only way you're going to hear it for a long, long time.

On the flip side, I'd nominate Peter Gabriel's UP as the BEST sounding modern-day CD I've heard in a long time. The dynamic range and bass extension is remarkable.
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by ZephyrVolta April 2, 2009 2:32 PM PDT
This is just the unfortunate effect of the loudness wars. The louder the music is, the more attention it'll get on first listen. Obviously once you know the song well, it'll sound like a pile of crud, but I mean who cares? You already would've bought the song by then.
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by StrangeRover1 September 21, 2009 8:56 AM PDT
Some people THINK that the louder the music is, the more attention it'll get on first listen. Unfortunately, those people are working at record labels.
by oconnellc April 2, 2009 4:29 PM PDT
You know what I would love to see instead of this poll (and maybe it is already floating around here) is a poll about what is your BEST sounding music. To start it off, I personally love the sound of 'Out of the Cradle' by Lindsey Buckingham. There is something about the way his guitar sound just hits me on that album...
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by wavjockey April 2, 2009 4:35 PM PDT
I listen to music where noise IS THE POINT:

Industrial
Powernoize
EBM
Hard Style
Drum and Bass
These genres will sound atrocious to the the narrow-minded. But, to each his/her own.

Despite the deliberate distortion, you can hear how cleverly the engineer/mixer has made the noise into an instrument.
Remixers and DJs will create edits that sound like digital errors.
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by nikclv April 2, 2009 4:45 PM PDT
Dear Steve,
This is why you blog for cnet and not Pitchfork or Rolling Stone. I, like you, love the band and to a certain extent agree with you on your point, but not really. I love the sound of old LP's. Practically all music that is now produced has to go through a computer. I believe you skewed Mr. Dylan's comments on that as well, he goes on in the interview to discuss how he prefers the imperfections, the subtle nuances that computers tend to filter out. He was talking about the raw sound in the studio that gets lost when it goes into format. I believe the Heartless Bastards wanted just that; an album of raw sound not cleansed by some computer. This is art Steve. That's like looking at the 'Mona Lisa" and saying it's not a great painting because it's painted and doesnt look like a photograph clean and vivid allowing the viewer to see all possible detail. So no this is not the "most atrocious-sounding music" of the year so far. What it is Steve, is the most atrocious blog post for an album review. You may think it's not a review but that's exactly what you did. If you want to be an art critic or teacher go work for MoMa or the Smithsonian. Stick to what you know Steve. Just because something doesn't sound good doesn't mean it isn't. And Steve, I do like your posts, I'm just busting your chops a little because that label doesn't seem fair at all.
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by tomsoundman April 3, 2009 6:30 AM PDT
You keep saying "Steve" so much in your comment it is distracting... Reminds me of a Steve Via experimental album from the early 1980's when he had a girl ramble on and he played a guitar over her voice. I think it was caled "so happy" from Flex-able"...
by bitterrotten April 17, 2009 3:01 PM PDT
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by mephisto668 April 2, 2009 5:14 PM PDT
Although my nomination is also not a 2009 release, I think Arcade Fire's Neon Bible is easily worse than Metallica's or Bob Dylan's Modern Times. I happen to have these and just gave them another sample listen.

Neon Bible is a great album, but I have to admit that it sounds like it was recorded under a thick blanket.
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by DaveMcLain April 2, 2009 5:27 PM PDT
When recording in digital sometimes the sources of the distortions are elusive. Take this example. Why would you ever want to use a sampling rate higher than 44.1Khz? That frequency gives a theoretical nyquist frequency of over 20Khz which should cover the entire audible band right? This is very true but problems come from the filters that are needed to remove ALL of the information above nyquist even if it's low in level because those frequencies are not expressed correctly and come back as an alias at a musically unrelated frequency, yuck! The filters required cause problems with ringing and phase distortion which are clearly audible. Soooooo, what you'll find is that if the original multitrack recording is done using say a 96Khz sampling rate that the nyquist frequency is so far outside of the audio band brick wall filters are not needed and aliasing at audible frequencies doesn't happen to any great degree and the recording sounds clean and natural. Getting the sampling rate as well as the bit depth reduced to 16bit 44.1Khz should only happen ONE time and it should be the LAST thing done to the audio. If so the CD will sound fantastic provided of course that somebody doesn't do some heavy handed "mastering" and kill all of the dynamic range for the sake of loudness!
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by soundman45 April 3, 2009 3:28 PM PDT
Dave You are correct. Anomalies do happen in a 16 bit world. There really is alot sonic information to enjoy when you expand to a 24 bit word. The extra bit depth does make a difference. It's a pity that DVD A and DSD/SACD
formats are pretty much dead. That is unless you enjoy classical music.
by soundman45 April 2, 2009 6:00 PM PDT
It would be almost impossible for me to choose a single record for worst sounding of the year or worst sounding of all time. there are so many to choose from. I agree with Steve that Springsteen records never sound that great. Great songwriting. Great musicians, but the high fidelity lacks a little. Case in point. the Born to Run album. Great arrangements Great playing but compressed and dark fidelity.
It's funny, It was engineered by the famous engineer/producer. Jimmy lovine too. I could never figure it out.
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by minimalist April 2, 2009 6:54 PM PDT
I am not sure how I feel about this. I know for certain I don't care one bit what Bob Dylan thinks about the state of recorded music. I think its ironic that the man who so many people criticized when he plugged and cranked up the distortion now criticizing others for too much distortion. It just sounds like sour grapes to me.

So on the one hand, I value the art of recording music way more than I value the engineering so if the artist wants their record to sound grungy or murky than so be it. The engineer is there to support the artist and the producer not the other way around. It's best when the too mesh of course but I find a lot of the complaints about the "loudness wars" seem to be coming from disgruntled engineers or audiophiles in love with stats and figures more than artistic license. Daniel Lanois is an an artist and producer (who also happens to have a deep knowledge of engineering) that drives some people mad with his swampy sounding highly atmospheric recordings (Neville Brothers, Emmylou Harris, U2 and his own work) but I love his stuff because the sound is always in the service of the art and not the other way around.

On the other hand sometimes I am baffled at the decisions some bands make. Take MGMT's 2008 release "Oracular Spectacular". It's distortion doesn't sound intentional at all. Its almost unlistenable on good headphones because the distortion is constant and thick, like a fog that never clears. And yet its one of the best pop albums of last year in my mind. The most bizarre things is that Dave Fridman produced it and he normally makes great sounding recordings (Mercury Rev, The Flaming Lips, etc). Turns out the band thought the recording sounded too clean so thery got him to run the whole thing through some crappy digital distortion pedal. Very, very weird indeed.

In the end I trust the artist more than I trust the engineer to make the right decisions though.
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by minimalist April 2, 2009 6:55 PM PDT
Correction, I value the art of RECORDED music (not recording music).
by research1st April 3, 2009 7:58 AM PDT
If the artists are really calling the shots on the "engineering" of their recordings, then they need to get out of the engineering business. 90+% of the artists are clueless when it comes to the actual recording and sound process.
Most artists, without the help of the sound engineer, will sound like crap both in a live or studio setting. But that's only the tip of the iceberg. The fact is most engineers today are also clueless.

You seem to be defending the "bad sounding" recordings in the name of art. Sorry, but if the "art" is unlistenable that just makes it "bad art". I really don't think the artists want their music to be unlistenable....
by minimalist April 4, 2009 9:48 PM PDT
Engineers are rarely artists. They are technicians. Big difference.

George Lucas is a technician. This is why all the Star Wars prequels pretty much suck and the dialog is so painfully bad. He mistakenly thinks that visual mastery and cutting edge effects can compensate for bad story telling. Notice that his best movies are the ones where he gets out of the way and lets other people direct and write the scripts (Empire Strikes back and Return of the Jedi).

Badly recorded art is still art. because art is about something larger than technical mastery. Perfectly (whatever that means) recorded crap is still crap.
by StrangeRover1 September 21, 2009 9:15 AM PDT
minimalist: "Engineers are rarely artists." - Um... where to start with that one... SO not true. Daniel Lanois, Bob Power come to mind at the top of a long, long list. The greatest artists have always had technical mastery over their mediums.

I know you're drawing a distinction between the musician being recorded (it isn't their job to know the recording technology) and the recordist. It is the engineer's job to not only know the technology, but to use it specifically with a deep and full understanding of the music. 95% of music engineers are also musicians themselves - as it should be (and many are more talented, knowledgeable, and have more soul than you might ever suspect, since part of the gig is having ego in balance.)
by stbrown9 April 2, 2009 9:37 PM PDT
This has been happening for a long time. Listen to Oasis - What's the Story Morning Glory. It is so terribly compressed you can't pick out a single instrument. It's a smashed mess of sound that has no shape or dynamic. A great album that is nearly unlistenable because of the sound quality, and that's from back in 1995.
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Ex movie theater projectionist Steve Guttenberg has more or less successfully hitched his future to home theater, but he still pines for the clickity-clack of 35 MM projectors and all the stale popcorn he could eat. Between projectionist gigs he worked as a high-end audio salesman for sixteen years, and produced records for an audiophile label. Oh, and one more thing, nothing annoys Steve more than being confused with the other Steve Guttenberg, the washed-up Police Academy actor. The wordsmith Guttenberg is a frequent contributor to a number of magazines and websites including Home Entertainment, Playback, and Ultimate AV. He is a member of the CNET Blog Network and is not an employee of CNET. Disclosure.

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