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December 16, 2008 7:14 AM PST

Speaker of the year: Magnepan 3.6/R

by Steve Guttenberg
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I've reviewed a gazillion speakers, and I can't remember more than a few dozen of them. They're just a string of big and little boxes; some sounded really nice, most were merely OK, and surprisingly few were truly awful.

Magnepan's speakers stand out from the crowd first because they're so thin, the MG 3.6/R is 1.5 inches thick, and standing 71 inches high, it's really tall. But it was the sound that blew me away. It's an incredibly clear, high-resolution sound, and sounds decidedly unspeakerlike. That's why it's the Audiophiliac's Speaker of the Year.

The 3.6/R at home

(Credit: Magnepan)

As I said in my Home Entertainment magazine review "That's why the MG 3.6/R will sound like a revelation to first-time listeners; the gap between the sound of real, live music and recorded music feels a whole lot smaller. The speaker projects a more full-bodied, three-dimensional soundstage than any box can; correction, the MG 3.6/R's sound was bigger and deeper than I've ever heard from a speaker retailing for less than $50,000. With the MG 3.6/R instruments and voices emerge closer to their real-life scale and size. Clearly, Magnepan engineers changed the way speakers move air."

Instead of the usual woofer and tweeter, the MG 3.6/R uses three "planar-magnetic" drivers: a 55-inch tall aluminum foil "ribbon" tweeter; a 199-square-inch 0.5-mil-thick Mylar midrange diaphragm; and a 500 square inch Mylar woofer. The speaker is essentially a panel that moves air, and projects sound from its front and rear surfaces. The drivers are Magnepan patented designs, all manufactured at the company's factory in White Bear Lake, Minnesota. American hi-fi at its best.

The affordable Magnepan, the MMG

(Credit: Magnepan)

More about the planar-magnetic midrange and woofer. Rather than use a conventional voice coil that pushes and pulls the center of a cone diaphragm, wire grids are deployed across much of the surface of the flat planar-magnetic diaphragm--the design gambit produces lower distortion than cone or dome type drivers. Sounds radical, but the MG 3.6/R is far from a cutting edge design: It's been in production for more than ten years, and the original MG 3 debuted in 1983.

The sheer believability of the sound can be, at first, a little jarring. The ribbon tweeter is so much more realistic sounding than any dome tweeter I've ever heard. Cymbal crashes sound like crashes. The treble dynamics/impact/vibrancy are absolutely state of the art. So much so that returning to box speakers can be a letdown, they sound smaller, more contained, and well... boxier.

The MG 3.6/R goes for $5,395 a pair, and sure, that's a lot of money. But it's an investment that pays off over the long haul; it's the kind of speaker you can own and enjoy for decades. Let's compare and contrast the MG 3.6/R with Nikon's latest dSLR, the D3, that retails for $5,000, without a lens. Nikon will probably sell thousands of them.

I'm sure it's a great camera, but digital camera technology is still advancing at a fast clip, and this state-of-the-art wonder will be hopelessly out of date in a few years. Besides, anybody who can afford to drop that kinds of money on a camera will likely move on to the next big thing by then. It's "disposable" technology, so in that sense it's way more expensive to own that a great high-end audio system.

Some lucky so and sos blow $932 a day to rent a Ferrari 355 GTS.

I've blogged about the 3.6/R's little brother, the MG 1.6/QR ($1,895), but if that's still out of range, check out Magnepan's $599/pair model, the MMG (which is sold direct). Match that baby up to a nice integrated amplifier like Rotel's sweet RA-1062 ($699), and you'd be well on your way. I haven't heard the MMG yet, but hope to review it sometime next year.

Steve Guttenberg is a frequent contributor to magazines and Web sites including Home Entertainment, Playback, and Ultimate AV. He is a member of the CNET Blog Network, and is not an employee of CNET. Disclosure.
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by alegr December 16, 2008 10:30 AM PST
I wonder what's its low frequency response vs frequency, and efficiency, too.
Would also like to see its directional characteristics for the tweeter, for sitting vs standing.
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by half_n_half17 December 17, 2008 4:57 PM PST
Alegr,

My family has owned a pair of the original MG 3's so I think I can answer your questions. The low frequency response isn't great, but it isn't terrible. It's has a little bloom around 70hz and it rolls off pretty quickly below that. As for efficiency, I can't remember the exact numbers but the pair I listen to are bi-amped by a modified Hafler 500 and a modified Hafler 220. I've heard them run with just the 220 and they didn't sound nearly as full or dynamic which leads me to think that the efficiency has got to be pretty low. In terms of the directional characteristics, the sound I hear does depend on the sitting height and listening position. If you sit too close to the outside of the speaker of have them toed-in too much the ribbon tweeters sound unnatural and harsh, however with correct positioning they sound a lot like what Steve was describing in his review, as well as the comments below by rocketplanet. Overall the MG's aren't my favorite speaker because I find that I enjoy a little bit of a warmer sound and they're kind of like holding a magnifying glass up to whatever source material you feed them - i.e. MP3's sound particularly crappy and the recording techniques of modern pop music often becomes unbearable. Then again, if you throw in some decent vinyl or even a decent redbook cd they sound amazingly alive.
by alegr December 18, 2008 1:25 PM PST
Thanks, half_n_half17, that's what I pretty much expected.

The problem with open woofer is that as soon as half-wavelength becomes longer than the trip from the back side to the front side, the output begins to fall. Even with wavelength under that trip length there can be a few good drops in the frequency response.

Tall tweeter only gives reasonably good response in quite narrow angle. For example, on 5 kHz (66 mm wavelength) the main lobe of the response diagram (assuming the tweeter is 55" or 1400 mm tall) is only 3 degrees wide (at -3dB), though in the room you're close to the near zone, where directionality is more complex. 3 degree at 2m distance is 100 mm difference in height. At 15 kHz that would be just 1 degree. The harshness you experience when you're far off-axis is because the frequency response becomes very uneven, with deep minimums. A traditional dome tweeter doesn't have that because of its small dimensions.
by mikeinhouston December 26, 2008 5:29 PM PST
MGIII (3's) are not 3.6R so there are some comments here that are not relevent. One point that Steve does not mention is the necessity of GREAT upstream gear with Magnepan speakers. They are so revealing that if you have less than stellar equipment upstream it does not "color" the sound for you. It sounds like the gear you are playing sounds.

Also, you need a VERY, VERY powerful amp to drive them and make the bass come alive. These are a very ineffiecinent speaker and require a lot of power. You start looking at a 300watt (into a 4 ohm load) and go up from there. The bigger the number, and the better the amp, the better the results. New digital amps have made this much more affordable.

The Sanders Sound (formerly Innersound) ESL amps, Bel Canto Ref1000 Monoblocks and the awesome Cary Audio 500MB amps are a great place to start.
by SmittyofAustin December 16, 2008 2:06 PM PST
$100,000 says the Mackie HR824mk2 speakers are better than these at only $1,300/pair.
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by mikeinhouston December 26, 2008 5:30 PM PST
That's bringing a wet noodle to a gun fight, not even in the same league. I live in Texas too, if you have $100k and want to do a blind listening test, I think I will be paying $35k to the IRS in taxes.
by rocketplanet December 16, 2008 3:39 PM PST
I have built/used with speakers large and small and every size in between for 40 years both as a consumer and as a musician. As a musician I have worked with walls of speakers that were simply incredible. Quality speakers today always sound good in isolation. I have a pair of competitve studio monitors similar to the mackie;s. When I use them for mixing and monitoring they sound excellent for their application.

But in truth nothing, absolutely nothing, compares to Magneplanar. I have the second generation 3.6 II MG's which I have had for 20 years. I have been through another 5 pair of selected home theater and stereo speakers since this time and built many DJ and band speakers that at first impress and then disapoint over extended time (the band speakers are still fine for their application).

Their is an indescribable characteristic of the Magneplanars that envelope you in sound, the speakers disapear and they create a 3 dimensional image of the sound that transports you to the live setting. You can actually identify where the musicians are on good recordings. The midrange is good on the older speakers but the tweeter is magic. I play drums and no tweeter on this earth can reproduce the treu complexity of a cymbal played with a variety of techniques except the magneplanar. The 6 foot aluminum ribbon simply breathes into the air and the sound appears around you, No other speaker can even come close. The next best approximation is all horn based systems (think mega bucks and room sized speakers). All music is simply better on these speakers compared to everything else.

They are power hungry, when supplied with enough power they seem to have limitless dynamics. There is a weakness and that is gut wrenching, pound your chest bass. It isn't there. The bass response is good but I use a subwoofer. The sub frees up the Magneplanar from it's power limitations in the bass region and allows it to reach sound levels of epic porportions.

Get a pair of these speakers, feed it with the best quality sound source you can muster, give it plenty of power and it will transport you to another dimension.
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by rbrhrbr December 17, 2008 7:33 PM PST
I've got a pair of the MG 1.6, 2-way Quasi Ribbons. The sound is live, nimble and transparent, even without a sub and giant power. I'd love a recommendation on a powered subwoofer my Maggies would like. They sound fantastic head-on, placed a few inches from a reflective wall and turned slightly toward center stage: unbeatable for hyper-critical listening. They also shine from adjacent rooms. I could swear the musicians are jamming around the corner. I listen to mostly soloists and small ensembles, but a three dimensional quality emerges with larger bands and orchestras. And I've never heard anything that reproduces a pipe organ performance with such accuracy.
by pubmat December 18, 2008 7:56 PM PST
rocketplanet...that was a great description of the Maneplanar and its sound characteristics. I've read much about them, but I enjoyed your description especially. I'm in the market for new speakers, and now I'm going to have to put them on my short list.
by ck279 December 16, 2008 4:55 PM PST
What differentiates the mechanical design of this speaker from Martin Logan's electrostatic models?
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by one_flat_monkey December 16, 2008 5:26 PM PST
having had a pair of 1.4s, at $1K for the pair, i can attest that Maggies are superlative. i've not heard the 3.6s in a home listening room, but in a hi end store, and rocketplanet is absolutely correct that the soundstage produced by a planar speaker is transcendent. Maggies are better for jazz and classical than rock, IMO, but they do rock well enough. if i had the room, i would purchase the Magnepan 1.6s for the 1700 bucks they cost now.

the speaker involves mylar ribbon "stretched" between long magnets in vertical columns, and the MLs are 2 curved metal "plates" with holes in them sandwiching a thin plastic sheet, to put the difference in the crudest possible terms.
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by December 16, 2008 7:58 PM PST
I have heard the sound of the 3.6 speakers reviewed, and also built my home theater with MG 1.6/QR, and a pair of MC1 (wall mountable magnepan speakers) and a CC3 for the central channel in my 5.1 home theater system with my Integra DTR 8.8 receiver. No Description can really do justice to the sound experience that you go through by using these speakers. You have to personally experience it for yourself. What many people don't realize is, for more or less for the same money (may be little more extra) you throw for the highly hyped product lines such as Bose, you can build the excellent value for your money if you decide to go with magnepan speakers. By the way, as 'rocketplanet' noted above, you need a powered sub woofer ( I have HSU's $900 sub woofer) for the bass reproduction.
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by plasticities December 17, 2008 8:03 AM PST
my speaker of the year is probably obama.

but in all seriousness, i can't imagine two 6 foot tall speakers looking anything but bulky and tacky in a room. that said, i'd still love to hear/own them.
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by pubmat December 18, 2008 7:58 PM PST
The distinction that obama has is that like some speakers, they only APPROXIMATE reality.
by mikeinhouston December 26, 2008 5:33 PM PST
http://forum.audiogon.com/cgi-bin/fr.pl?vopin&1092315411&openmine&zzMacdadtexas&4&5#Macdadtexas

this is from an Audio website, shows one of the many member systems with Maggies
by make_or_break December 18, 2008 12:51 AM PST
I never could grow accustomed to such a large speaker. Every time I've auditioned Maggies I've marveled over their truly remarkable imaging capabilities, even if the low end reproduction has often been challenging. That said, their shear size has always been the real impediment when reaching for the credit card.

It was that way when I elected to by my Martin-Logans years ago. It was again that way when I bought my Thiels.
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by nwkurzrep December 18, 2008 11:18 AM PST
The first and only time I heard the Maggies was during the NAMM (north american music merchants) convention last year. We had some bi-amplified for a demontration along with some Genelec 8050A's. Now, the Maggies are intended for reproducing recorded music and the Gennies are designed for mixing music that's being recorded. There is a difference. Personally, I couldn't stand doing my keyboard synthesizer demonstrations using the Maggies. They were definitely clear and open, but seemed a bit shrill and less warm than the Genelecs. There was, as mentioned above, a lacking of low-end reproduction. You would surely need to couple these speakers with an adaquate subwoofer.

If you do listen mostly to Jazz and Classical they would probably be superb, but I think you'd still be yearning for a bit more warmth from that upright bass and dynamic power from Wagner. They are, at first glance, fairly ugly (in my mind) and seem ideal for movie posters or as an easel.

Ok, maybe a bit harsh, but I was left with the undying impression that the speakers required the expense of MacIntosh, Adcom, Rotel type amplification and the correct environment for the intended experience. We had adaquate amplification but maybe our environment was lacking.

All types of music sounded outstanding on the Genelecs.

For the money, I'll keep my 15 year old NHT 2.3's
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by Audioi December 19, 2008 11:39 AM PST
I have had many different speaker systems and still enjoy the Magnepans.
I currently own MG2.7Qr along with Martin Logan's plus some conventional box systems and I find they each have there own strengths & weaknesses but I can say this, Given enough amp the Maggies are something to be desired. No they are not the greatest for Rock & Roll but put some acoustic music on them and watch them shine. They seem to portray natural instruments and voices better than anything else made.
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by mikeinhouston December 26, 2008 5:37 PM PST
I have had many, many speakers over the years, and always come back to Maggies. I love the sound, it is so lifelike and intimate.

I listen to a LOT of rock music at very high SPL levels, so Maggies can rock out, but that requires a ton of power from the amps. Huge power monoblocks are the best (Cary Audio 500MB are my current favs). and bi-amping the speaker is really the best way to enjoy what it can do.

I have never had someone come over to listen to these that was not absolutely floored and quit giving me grief about my audio obcession. In fact, many a pair of Magnepans have been bought in my town from auditions at my house.
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by wiilvnkia December 28, 2008 2:42 PM PST
I've heard electrostats have an extremely small sweet spot. To quote Tom over at Audioholics, they are the best pair of headphones you will ever own. Is this true for these as well?
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by anta.baka.chupacabra December 28, 2008 5:43 PM PST
To be fair, a Nikon D3 is used by photojournalists, newspapers, wedding photographers and other professionals who will use the camera to make many times over what they 'invested'. As good as these 5,000 dollar speakers are, sinking money in anything that just sits there and depreciates isn't what I would call a very good investment. Unless one starts charging friends for concerts and movies, it's not quite an apt comparison.
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by make_or_break December 28, 2008 8:45 PM PST
D3s may be for the pros, but a LOT of poseurs and wannabes like and buy 'em, too.

Buying a pricey pair of speakers (or roomful, if home theater is the objective) is no less--or more--wise than someone who goes out and splurges on a Ferrari F430. You don't NEED a Ferrari to get from Point A to Point B, but some would rather make do with one than trundle along in a Toyota Yaris. Go figure. Yes it could be seen as conspicuous consumption, but damn, if you can afford it and lust after its auditory nirvana for your ears, why not?

Equipment like these Maggies are not 'need to own' items, but if you value superb audio performance they in and of itself can be a very wise purchase because of the countless hours of pleasure these give you. How can you say that this sort of valued enjoyment for the price is automatically a bad investment just because you take issue with the number of zeros that they have behind the five? Hell, there are a LOT more speakers out on the market that dwarf these in terms of price.

And besides, the price is relative. When you get into the rarefied stratosphere of the poor old "audiophile" even $5k is looked at as being a bargain.
by Esquirrel January 3, 2009 4:33 AM PST
White Bear Lake, MN?

Go Bears!
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by jazzbase January 3, 2009 5:19 AM PST
No one cares about speakers anymore, have you looked at the boomboxes most folks listen to.
The question is will your wife let you put those big ugly things out on display in your living room?
I think I know the answer.

Steve I have been reading your work for many years now.
I just think that our breed died a long time ago.
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by DaveOCP January 3, 2009 3:34 PM PST
Sorry folks, but the old fashioned dynamic driver in a box is king. Planars and electrostats do certain things well, but if you want a speaker that does everything right, including actual bass response, you buy dynamic. Ribbon tweeters sound fantastic (though so do Be and diamond dome tweeters) but for midrange and bass, give me a cone in a box. A box that says Avalon, Dynaudio, Kharma, Revel, Rockport, or Verity on it.
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by suitsme January 13, 2009 12:38 PM PST
"The MG 3.6/R's sound was bigger and deeper than I've ever heard from a speaker retailing for less than $50,000" Magneplanar will be very upset with you since they bother to sell a model (20.1) for about three times what the 3.5's, yet under 50k. Unless your comment was the usual industry writer BS which no one should believe, of course. I am sure that is not the case and that you think the 20.1 is inferior, as you indicated. Or maybe, despite your years in the industry you just haven't heard many speakers costing under 50k. That would be equally revealing of you.
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by bobjim2 November 7, 2009 2:29 PM PST
Steve,

Given your enthusiastic response to the Magneplanars, I wonder if you've ever had the chance to audition Roger Sanders 10b electrostatics? If you have, what is your opinion of them? I haven't heard them, but I have listened to the Magneplanar 3.6's and quite frankly I prefer the sound of my 30 year old Acoustat model 3's (being driven by the superb Sanders Electrostatic amplifier). The Magneplanars sound brittle and edgy to my ear. True, the Acoustats do not have the same bass response, but for an apartment dweller such as myself that is actually of benefit. The bass they produce does not bother the neighbors but is exquisitely well defined and solid. The Sanders ESL amp deserves all the credit for this. I can honestly say that I never realized how good the Acoustats could sound until they were connected to that amp. The speaker cables are also an "electrostatic specific" product from Sanders and the improvement in the upper frequencies with them is both immediate and astonishing. Those model 3's may be old, but paired with the proper equipment (including a Macintosh C-45 pre-amp) they can stand up against a whole host of "new and improved" hardware. There, I've said it and I'm glad!
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Ex movie theater projectionist Steve Guttenberg has more or less successfully hitched his future to home theater, but he still pines for the clickity-clack of 35 MM projectors and all the stale popcorn he could eat. Between projectionist gigs he worked as a high-end audio salesman for sixteen years, and produced records for an audiophile label. Oh, and one more thing, nothing annoys Steve more than being confused with the other Steve Guttenberg, the washed-up Police Academy actor. The wordsmith Guttenberg is a frequent contributor to a number of magazines and websites including Home Entertainment, Playback, and Ultimate AV. He is a member of the CNET Blog Network and is not an employee of CNET. Disclosure.

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