September 2, 2008 4:00 AM PDT

Revamped Google Picasa site identifies photo faces

by Stephen Shankland
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Google wants to help you put a name to that face.

With a face recognition feature set to launch at noon PDT Tuesday, Google's Picasa Web Albums will help users label their photos with the names of subjects. That and other changes to the photo-sharing site are joined by a new beta version of the accompanying Picasa 3.0 photo-editing software.

The "name tag" feature presents users with collections of photos with what it judges to be the same person, then lets them click a button to affix a name. Once photographic subjects are named, users can browse an album of that individual on the fly.

The name tag feature groups like faces together to let users tag them with names a batch at a time.

The Picasa Web Albums name tag feature groups like faces together to let users tag them with names a batch at a time (click to enlarge).

(Credit: Google)

"Once you've started naming people, we'll start suggesting names for you based on similarity," said Mike Horowitz, Google's Picasa product manager. "The process of naming people is really addictive and tremendously fun."

Having tried the new service on dozens of photos, I wouldn't go that far. But it is a major advance in what I believe is a very important area, photo metadata.

Tagging is a powerful way to sort digital photographs. Photo albums are useful, but with rich tagging, people also can slice and dice their photo collection to show particular people, activities, or locations. Even with face recognition technology or other computer processing, the textual tags in photos are a far more reliable way for computers to understand image content.

And tags become even more powerful as photos are assembled into publicly accessible collections such as those at Yahoo's Flickr, Picasa, or Fox Interactive's Photobucket.

Eat your vegetables, exercise regularly, tag your photos
The problem with tagging is that it's a chore, so most people don't bother. But Picasa's name tag feature automates the process enough--and provides enough reason to use it--that I believe many users will take the tagging plunge.

It took me less than 15 minutes to tag close to 200 faces in a set of more than 100 photos, and that included some start-up time such as figuring out how the system worked, establishing names for various common subjects, and correcting a few errors. The most impressive moments are when Picasa presents a large array of photos with the same face, and you can label them all with a single click.

Picasa editing software now lets users export movies with musical soundtrack to a file or YouTube.

Picasa editing software now lets users export movies with musical soundtrack to a file or YouTube (click to enlarge).

(Credit: Google)

I speak here from experience. I do tag my own photos--for example the 700 I took on a weeklong backpacking trip earlier this month--and something like Google's facial recognition assisting would have dramatically sped the process. It wouldn't help with other tags such as "swimming," "waterfall," or "Sierra tiger lily," but let's face it--people are the central feature in most people's photos.

Overall, Google's Picasa moves show that despite a long period of near-dormancy, Google still evidently is committed to the photography site and software.

However, Picasa overall still feels like a staid place to store photos, share them with friends, and maybe order prints. It doesn't match the vibrant community of Yahoo's Flickr. And though Flickr also has been slow to change, Yahoo has at least been nudging it in the right direction with additions such as online editing.

Picasa Web Albums' most conspicuously erroneous identification of a face, actually the spokes on my bicycle's front wheel.

Picasa Web Albums' most conspicuously erroneous identification of a face, actually the spokes on my bicycle's front wheel.

(Credit: Stephen Shankland/CNET News)

Face recognition blemishes
Picasa's name tags are helpful but imperfect. The feature failed to find faces in several photos where I thought the faces were reasonably obvious. It also thought my bicycle wheel's spokes and wife's ear were faces. One excusable error: it thought a mask in a mural was a face, though for some reason it didn't bother with a couple of real humans in the same mural.

"Our face-matching technology works best when a person is looking at the camera," Horowitz said. "There are a variety of factors that may limit our success in matching faces, including profile views and challenging lighting conditions like shadows."

The most annoying error was that during the initial period when I was adding names to the system, it somehow came up with three separate versions of me and two versions of my son, despite the fact that I entered the same name and e-mail address. I fixed it by telling Picasa my alter egos were erroneously labeled, at which point they re-entered the labeling pool and I assigned them to the remaining identity. Too bad I didn't notice the "merge" option until later.

Picasa Web Albums asked me to identify this face it found--actually a mask in a mural.

Picasa Web Albums asked me to identify this face it found--actually a mask in a mural (click to enlarge).

(Credit: Stephen Shankland/CNET News)

Knowing the privacy implications of face recognition, Google is proceeding somewhat cautiously. Picasa users must specifically enable the name tag feature, and default name tags aren't shared publicly. Picasa users may only tag photos in their own account.

With the "name tag" feature, which users must specifically enable, Picasa presents groups of images sharing the same face. Users can label them with a person's name. Eventually users can click a tag to find shots of a particular subject in their photo collections,

The face recognition technology came to Google via its 2006 acquisition of Neven Vision, Horowitz said.

There are other changes coming to Picasa Web Albums (though a change to Google Photos isn't one of them, at least right now). One is an "explore" view that lets people browse the total collection of public Picasa photos. It lets people browse by popular tags, location, and peer at recent uploads. Another is the ability to e-mail photos to the service.

Picasa 3 beta
Google also plans to release a beta version of the Picasa 3 image-editing. It works on Windows, though a Google Labs version has been transmogrified to work on Linux via the Wine software layer. Horowitz wouldn't confirm whether a Mac OS X version is anything more than an idea: "Macs are important to us," he said. "We're always looking for new ways making sure our users are happy, so it's something we're looking at."

The new Picasa software brings several changes:

• A movie maker mode lets people combine photos with music to export movie versions of galleries to watch on a PC or upload to YouTube.

• A new retouch brush lets people edit out skin blemishes and other trouble spots. And the tool can automatically fix red-eye problems caused by flash photography.

A collage mode in Picasa lets users create poster-size collections, sizing and placing each snapshot.

A collage mode in Picasa lets users create poster-size collections, sizing and placing each snapshot. (Click to enlarge.)

(Credit: Google)

• A new collage mode lets users compile many photos into one composite image. This time, users get precise control over image placement for example by moving, rotating, and resizing photos, and the software can produce a high-resolution composite for poster-size prints.

• A photo viewer for quick slideshows, an option that during installation politely asks to own the file associations for JPEG, TIFF, raw images from higher-end cameras, and some other formats. The slideshow software can view PNG files, which is handy, but the editing software still can't, which is a significant limitation for me.

• Online synchronization. If photos have been uploaded from Picasa to the Web site, they can be edited later and the changes, including tags, are synchronized to the Web site. This is very handy since you might want to get images up quickly to share with friends then edit them later. Unfortunately, changes on the Web site aren't mirrored back to the PC, so all those name tags will stay put in the cloud for now.

Stephen Shankland writes about a wide range of technology and products, but has a particular focus on browsers and digital photography. He joined CNET News in 1998 and since then also has covered Google, Yahoo, servers, supercomputing, Linux and open-source software, and science. E-mail Stephen, or follow him on Twitter at http://www.twitter.com/stshank.
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by james4513 September 2, 2008 5:49 AM PDT
Where can I get the beta?
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by Shankland September 2, 2008 7:36 AM PDT
Try looking at http://picasa.google.com/ at noon PDT today.
by mstrhypno September 2, 2008 6:51 AM PDT
Yep. Private? Sure. Picassa resides where? Think about it, then add the word subpoena. Then add "Patriot Act" to the tag. Then add "Department of Homeland Security." George Orwell, eat your heart out.

and, given the current trend toward "national security" instead of privacy, forget about the subpoena.

Just like your phone calls.
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by GRobLewis September 2, 2008 7:49 AM PDT
Amen, brother!
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by DinkSinger September 2, 2008 7:41 AM PDT
Picassa resides on your PC.
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by copyrightyourface May 7, 2009 2:26 AM PDT
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by masonx September 2, 2008 8:28 AM PDT
This program will have limited use from a photo organizations standpoint because useful photo organization processes tend to be either chronological or topical. It will however, be of great use in intelligence gathering regarding tracking individual associations and locations at specific times. If you have access to huge numbers of individual's photo collection and to public photo databases (traffic and security cameras) it becomes a very interesting intelligence tool It's development seems more logically driven by this intelligence aspect than by Google's touting it as a photo organizer. The real question for us all - Is Google on it's way to be becoming the biggest Big Brother, or perhaps Big Brother's Uncle?
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by AndrewRich September 2, 2008 12:07 PM PDT
Let's get that Mac version out sooner rather than later.
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by StlHakusho September 2, 2008 9:35 PM PDT
I can't say I'm very interested in the face recognition software for tagging in Web Albums only. Any clue why it's not added to the desktop version, because that would be something I would love to have.
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by holeinhiseye September 3, 2008 9:31 AM PDT
Really looking forward to using this face recognition in Picasa. Should save me loads of time when tagging photos.l
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by jsphnardone September 6, 2008 10:00 AM PDT
Downloaded Picasa2 and found it to be a good and simple photo program. Then I learned that I can't download photos from my Canon CF card. I did it once but Picasa2 will not allow me to do it again. In fact, it will not even recognize the Canon card. This problem is not only with me but with other people who have posted questions in the help forum. It seems that nobody has an answer and Google doesn't know what is going on. As far as I know there is no way to contact Google. Google is too busy making money to care. I do care and I've uninstalled Picasa2. Good-bye Picasa2 & Google.

Learned about Flickr from your web posting here. Checked it out and it sounded good. Created and account but then tried to download photos. All I wanted to do is to take my photos directly from the CF card but there is no way to do that or at least the people from Flickr are not bright enough to instruct new users and beginners on how to establish a photo library and start using Flickr from the very beginning. Don't tell me about help forums. They don't work and are scams only to save Yahoo & Google money so they don't have to maintain help desks. The internet is really a dumb place to be.
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by rickerflicker September 9, 2008 7:26 AM PDT
I've been uploading CF's from my Rebel with virtually no problems whatsoever. I know it works best to have Picasa open before I push in the CF card. But it does the import and wipes the card clean just as directed every time. If it doesn't read the card on the first push, take the card out, wait a couple seconds and re-insert it. I rarely have to do this but this procedure has resolved the problem when it does.
by copyrightyourface May 7, 2009 2:27 AM PDT
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by don woodard September 6, 2008 12:10 PM PDT
Yeah, but watch Google carefully. Remember how they pulled the plug on Hello users without warning and with nothing to take its place. They are getting just like Microsoft...they run rough-shod over their customers. They will leave you high and dry just like it did the Hello users. Plus ALL their stuff is just mediocre junk (just like Microsoft). Good luck if you are a Picasa2 user. And don't hold your breath waiting for JPEG-XR support. You will get it when hell freezes over.
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by gjl229 September 9, 2008 2:17 PM PDT
Let the National Security Letters begin. If you don't know what they are, that ignorance means we're in big trouble.

Our good friends at do-no-evil Google are co-opting all of us into developing a surveillance database that the government would not be allowed to. How evil is that? First medical records, then our homes and streets, now our faces.

Let's all go back and re-read George Orwell. If you don't know who that is, you're in deep trouble. We're all in deep trouble.

Google has become the enemy. Take action!
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by danbradster December 11, 2008 4:39 AM PST
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by SmartClix-Marketing December 31, 2008 8:35 PM PST
<a class="jive-link-external" href="http://picasa.google.com/" target="_newWindow">Google Picasia</a>

We use Picasia all the time. It's a great app, and I love the new version.
I just wish the would release a similar concept to Picasia on the iPhone!!
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by SmartClix-Marketing December 31, 2008 8:36 PM PST
http://picasa.google.com/
Here's the link to the new version of Picasia again.

Cheers
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by bishopp14 June 2, 2009 11:45 AM PDT
Hey, Picasia was on my computer for a year before I realized what it even was. I even deleted it once (Picasia 2) when I was getting rid of extraneous programs that were taking up space on my hard drive. I found it again the other day when I was cleaning up my desktop and organizing my files. This time it was Picasia 3. I checked it out and low and behold it was the answer I had been looking for to help me organize my digital photos!! It was there all the time and I just ignored it! I could have kicked myself. I only use the desktop version but it has more than quadrupled the speed of my work flow. I don't know what I ever did without it! The only complaint I have is that the name tag feature has been left out of the desktop version. Why?? It just doesn't make any sense to me. Oh well, it's still a wonderful program and best of all it was free!!! Oh and to all of the conspiracy theorists out there who think that Google is the "Umbrella Corporation" from Resident Evil....BWAHHHH HA HA HA HA!!!!!!! Those tin foil hats you're wearing are priceless!
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by neopunisher September 23, 2009 8:22 AM PDT
see my post about mashing facial recognition with facebook http://blog.cartercole.com/2009/09/googles-picasa-facial-recognition-works.html
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