Apple getting ready for 'product transition'
Is it time for a price cut on the iPod Touch?
(Credit: Ina Fried/CNET News)Let the guessing begin.
Apple Chief Financial Officer Peter Oppenheimer's decision to warn financial analysts Monday that Apple's fourth-quarter gross margins will be negatively impacted by a "product transition" should be enough to get the rumor wheels turning: of course, it doesn't take all that much. The remark came within yet another Apple's earnings report that produced stellar numbers for the previous quarter but an outlook below what Wall Street had been expecting.
Oppenheimer deftly avoided several questions from analysts who tried to get a little more information on just what that "product transition" might involve. He used the exact same phrase last year in July during an earnings call to warn analysts of pretty much the exact same situation: that the transition would cause lower profits for the upcoming quarter. The result? New iMacs in August, and the iPod Touch in September.
There are two obvious scenarios that would cause a CFO to warn shareholders that his profit margins might be a little light heading into the upcoming quarter: lower prices, or more expensive production costs.
We already have a pretty strong suspicion that Apple is planning to introduce new notebooks during the quarter. It's been quite some time since the design of the MacBook has received an update, and with Apple's other notebooks sporting an aluminum enclosure these days, it's not hard to envision a similar design in the works for the MacBook based on Intel's new Centrino 2 technology.
But how would that change the margins on the MacBook? The MacBook seems to be the most popular segment of Apple's notebook lineup (the company doesn't break out the details), and perhaps switching to the aluminum enclosure for such a high-volume product would increase Apple's production costs for the MacBook.
Could Apple be considering overall pricing changes in the Mac lineup? One financial analyst seemed to suggest that with a line of questioning that Oppenheimer parried. Apple offers a smaller degree of customized options for Macs on its Web site than other PC vendors do on theirs, and the markup on some of the extra components (like $200 for an extra 2GB of memory) is pretty steep.
New MacBooks are also expected to arrive this quarter, which could affect Apple's product margins.
(Credit: Apple)The trouble with that theory is that there doesn't seem to be any real reason for Apple to change the pricing of the Mac at this point: the company just sold the highest number of Macs in a quarter in its history. Price doesn't seem to be an object to sales, so why take the margin hit?
Likewise, the iPhone pricing isn't likely to go anywhere in the quarter with the iPhone 3G just making its way out to the public. The subsidized pricing courtesy of AT&T isn't going to change that quickly: Apple COO Tim Cook admitted that the company's internal surveys revealed that a lot of people who liked the iPhone weren't going to pay $399 for it. Apple and AT&T are likely to give the $199/$299 pricing scheme at least the remainder of the year before revisiting things.
The most likely bet for a price cut is the iPod Touch, which sticks out like a sore thumb at $499 for the high-end model compared to the new pricing for the iPhone. Apple wants the iPod Touch to be the future of its iPod lineup, but it's a pretty pricey option compared with the rest of the iPod lineup right now.
Consumers responded very well last quarter to the February price cut for the iPod Shuffle, Oppenheimer said. Obviously, those people buying the Shuffle and those buying the Touch are looking for two very different things in a portable music player. But still, in a economically tepid (at best) year, every dollar matters more than usual.
An iPod Touch price cut makes perfect sense: drop the low-end 8GB model, move the 16GB down to $299, and the 32GB down to $399. And if the company is feeling a little more daring, it could double the capacity of the iPod Touch at those price points.
One scenario that was not addressed by any of the initial questions from the financial community was that involving a brand-new product. There has been lots of speculation over the past year or so that Apple has a minitablet/UMPC/MID type device in the works that would take the Cocoa Touch interface found in the iPhone to a larger screen. But that has always seemed like a more far-fetched notion, given all that Apple has had on its plate this year.
If I had to bet, I'd pick new Centrino 2-based MacBooks and a significant price cut for the iPod Touch as the most likely causes for a gross margin decline next quarter and into next year.
Both of those products could take some time to ramp up to volumes that could make the margins more palatable, although it's important to remember that Apple's margins will still be 30 percent after the decline. That's still pretty healthy for a company in its category.
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Mac Mini
This little guy needs a serious update and new video card.
Minis rule..............
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The reasons are many: Apple has said repeatedly that they wouldn't, They're making killer profits and growth right now off of Mac sales (41% growth year-on-year), and they probably don't want to dilute the brand.
IMHO, if they did it, Windows would likely end up a minor player in the home market within 3-5 years, and in the enterprise within 7-10 years. OTOH, they've been doing VERY well without having to take on the support and brand-dilution headaches that a commodity OSX would bring.
To reiterate, there's about as much chance of (Apple blessed) OS X on non-Apple hardware as there is a chance of George W. Bush being elected President a third time. Which is to say, nil.
It makes sense for a software company like Microsoft to sell their OS to run on as many computers as possible, but OS X exists to sell Macs. And now iPhones and iPod Touches too, but still Apple hardware.
The Mac
Not the iMac or Mac Mini or Mac Pro or MacBook, but a Mac.
An upgradeable tower with:
One CPU slot, not Two;
Two Hard Drives, not Four;
Three PCI slots, not Six;
Four RAM slots, not Eight.
I suspect Apple has many cogent reasons for
not making a mid-size tower like this, but it?s
hard to believe that ?Profits? or ?Market Share?
are among them.
MacMinis are nearly impossible to upgrade, as are
iMacs - not to mention that awful glare on the screen.
Give me an affordable mid-size tower with a separate
screen. I could use about four of them right now.
"Apple introduces new products that initially cost more because they deliver a new level of value to the customer. Then drive costs down and staying out of reach of our competitors. Apple will follow this plan again in the future."
Macs and ipods can use a small pricecut and/or update but they are not hugely overpriced, the MacBook Air on the other hand is overpriced and has to compete against $300 mini laptops. A low-cost laptop or small tablet / big ipod seems like a nice addition to the current product lineup. Fingers crossed. :)
OTOH, there's no telling what's sitting in their labs right now...
Apple had that Intel ready OSX sitting in a desk drawer. Who knows what they have sitting in the lab ready to surprise pundits and analysts.
Such as new display screens, or better batteries.
Maybe new colors for MacBook(upgrade overdue) as well.
Price cuts on Air and Touch would also be good.
Apple is a HARDWARE company.
Apple is a HARDWARE company.
Apple is a HARDWARE company.
Apple is a HARDWARE company.
Apple is a HARDWARE company.
Apple is a HARDWARE company.
Apple is a HARDWARE company.
Apple is a HARDWARE company.
Apple is a HARDWARE company.
Apple is a HARDWARE company.
Apple makes software so they can sell THEIR hardware.
No matter how much money you or anyone else things Apple could make selling OS X or any other software. The only reason they write software is to sell Macs, iPods, iPhones, and Apple TVs.
Can you guys FINALLY get this? CAN you? CAN YOU?
If you can't, quit reading about Apple.
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Next. Apple said "new products". Does this mean new versions of the same products or brand new products?
I don't know what new things Apple might be coming out with. What I would like is:
Updated Mac Mini - easily my biggest wish.
Updated Cinema displays with built in iSight AND lowered prices. $599 for the lowest price Apple monitor is just too high.
This has always been evident, even if they haven't repeated it time, and time again over the years. To give you some insight, their is a podcast/video interview, at D3, a couple of years ago with Bill Gates, and Steve Jobs. From this interview, you will see the common goal, but opposing views. Oh yes, and you will find out why Apple sells both hardware, and software.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_5Z7eal4uXI
So it's probably more correct to say that Apple is a computer (iphone/ipod) company, and that they create (or at least integrate from outside sources) all the elements of the final product, which includes hardware and software. And they aren't going to sell their OS for use in other machines any more than they are going to sell iPhones to run Windows CE.
$2,500 for a notebook built with $1,000 in parts? Its all marketing hype and $1,000 for the OS. Install Windows on a Mac book and you have a shiny windows machine. Install OSX on an intel machine ... oh wait ... you can't do that ... why not? Because at $100 for the OS they wouldn't be rolling in it, but at $1,000 for the OS by forcing a monopoly & making mac usability only available with a mac... that's their angle.
Yes, the computers are pretty (I like mine) but do people spend $2,500 because it is shiny or because it runs Mac OS?
They're a software company in disguise.
Loving my iphone...
Remember few months ago when Apple bought that chip design company. Now that could mean something for iPhones, iPods or something else, but it could be for something proprietary in a Mac that is required for OSX to boot.
- by Cube Over July 22, 2008 9:58 AM PDT
- @OlsonBW: "Transition" might as well mean "transition from hardware company to software company".
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Showing 1 of 3 pages (80 Comments)Can YOU get it? CAN YOU? :)
Notice all the hardware companies having troubles thanks to shrinking margins and standartization/globalization. Indeed, this could be a PC OS X release as well as iWork version that can replace MS OFFICE (the cash cow of M$), with ODF/OXF format support.
Now that they are already in homes, they can go to offices.
This could be the transition, and it will require undermining M$, a SOFTWARE company.
Bill Gates is out, maybe there's a gentleman's agreement...