January 22, 2008 1:45 PM PST

Apple posts nice Q1, but pessimistic on Q2

Updated at 3:45 p.m. PST following the conference call, with changes throughout.

Apple's first quarter hit on all cylinders, as the company continued its financial run on the strength of its Mac business. But anyone looking for reassurance about the overall health of the economy later this year didn't get it from Apple.

The company posted revenue Tuesday of $9.6 billion for its first fiscal quarter, which ended December 29. That's better than the $9.5 billion expected by financial analysts, and Apple also gave them good news with its earnings-per-share number of $1.76, better than expectations of $1.62 per share. That translates to net income of $1.6 billion, up 58 percent from last year.

Mac sales were up 44 percent compared with last year, as Apple continued its resurgence in personal computers. But investors will wonder if the iPod gravy train is coming to an end, as Apple's iPod sales of 22.1 million iPods was well below Wall Street expectations of 24.7 million. That's just 5 percent unit growth compared with last year, but iPod revenue was up 17 percent, so perhaps Apple sold more high-end iPod Touches than iPod Nanos or Shuffles as a percentage of its mix during the quarter.

Apple executives supported that argument during a conference call with financial analysts after the release of the company's earnings. Apple gained iPod share internationally, but iPod units sales in the U.S. were flat, said Tim Cook, Apple's chief operating officer.

While not specifically addressing the missed Wall Street target for iPod unit sales, Cook did say that iPod unit sales met the company's own expectations. And the iPod Touch is off to a good start, he said, which accounted for overall iPod revenue growth that matched last year's first-quarter revenue growth.

"This was the most expensive iPod we've introduced in some time," said Peter Oppenheimer, Apple's CFO. The company thinks the iPod Touch really belongs in a different category than the broader music player market, saying the iPod Touch has a chance to "become the first mainstream mobile Wi-Fi platform." Nintendo and Sony might have minor quibbles with that statement, but Oppenheimer's point was that you can't necessarily use years of iPod sales to chart the progress of the iPod Touch.

On the Mac front, Apple enjoyed another spectacular quarter, with Mac unit growth of 44 percent and revenue growth of 47 percent compared with last year. "The Mac business is on fire," Cook said, and the increases were led primarily by the new iMac desktops Apple introduced last August. Apple estimates that 19 percent of the Mac installed base is running Leopard, Mac OS X 10.5, and Leopard generated $170 million in revenue for Apple during the first quarter it went on sale, compared with the $100 million that Tiger, Mac OS X 10.4, generated for Apple in 2005.

CEO Steve Jobs already tipped the company's hand on iPhone shipments at Macworld, noting that Apple had sold 4 million iPhones as of his keynote speech. Apple sold 2.3 million iPhones during its first quarter, and Cook reiterated Apple's goal of shipping 10 million units during 2008.

In other business, Apple plans to double the number of Best Buy stores that are selling Macs within the next six months, going past an analyst prediction earlier this month that it would pull that off by early 2009. Apple sold 504,000 Macs through its own retail stores, up 64 percent from last year's first quarter, and just like last quarter, 50 percent of those buyers were new to the Mac, Cook said.

All in all, it adds up to a very solid first quarter for Apple. Even the disappointing iPod sales sold had a silver lining, since Apple took in 17 percent more revenue on only 5 percent unit growth. But the guidance will not help assuage a shaky stock market.

Apple is notorious for providing conservative guidance below Wall Street's expectations, but it guided well below expectations with predictions of $6.8 billion and 94 cents a share. Lots of companies would kill for that kind of performance, but Wall Street wanted more of Apple, with expectations of $7 billion in revenue and earnings per share of $1.09.

Analysts asked several times whether Apple foresaw a slower second quarter based on the economic environment, and perhaps wisely, Oppenheimer declined to attach his name to a negative forecast that could send stocks plunging Wednesday.

"We'll leave the economic forecasting to others. I am confident in our business, our strategy, and our products," Oppenheimer said. He may be right to be confident, but if average consumers pull back substantially on their spending, we're all going to feel it. Apple shares fell 11 percent in after-hours trading.

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Officially beleaguered yet?
by lkrupp January 22, 2008 2:49 PM PST
Let's see. Apple has just reported on its most fabulous quarter ever
in the history of the company. Apple has about $18 billion in cash
in the bank. The whole country is panicking about a possible
recession and the stock market is tanking.

Yep, I'd say Apple is officially a beleaguered company once again.
Let's start the death-spiral countdown clock again shall we.
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Apple Stock: from $202.96 to $136.70
by john55440 January 22, 2008 3:22 PM PST
According to Bloomberg, Apple's stock went from a 52-week high of (12/27/07) $202.96, to $136.70 in today's after hours extended trading.
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Geesh
by Nodack January 22, 2008 3:23 PM PST
Apple totally kicked butt and had another record quarter so of course the stock is tanking
right? :)

The stock market does look scary right now. Apple is covering their butts with the second
quarter predictions. It's hard to believe so many people are freaking out this bad though. Of
course the quarter after Christmas is going to be slower. That goes without saying, but aapl
at $137 in after hours trading? Down $60 in a month when the company is looking the best it
has ever looked?

I guess it makes sense. I wish I would have sold at $200 so I could pick it up again now at a
bargain.
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Pessimistic?
by sbwinn January 22, 2008 3:28 PM PST
In other words . . . gloomy, negative, defeatist, downbeat,
cynical, bleak, fatalistic, dark, despairing, despondent,
depressed, hopeless.

That's not what I got at all. Their numbers are always down
from Quarter 1 to Quarter 2. Note: Q1 = Christmas. In the last
two years their revenue has dropped 73% and 75% between from
Q1 to Q2. This year they are projecting 70%.

Their products set the standard in their categories. They have
entered established markets and eaten everyone else's lunch.
They are poised to do amazing things in mobile computing.
Pessimistic hardly seems like the right word.
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How can Apple's success continue?
by www.hdgreetings.com January 22, 2008 4:29 PM PST
Apple has released a string of products with design, execution, and branding so good it's magical.

The thing is how long can they continue to release products that no one exceeds?

Even the legendary quality advantage of Toyota is getting narrower and narrower compared to American cars, and that was a huge gap at one point.

It's hard to imaging it could last another 20 years.
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Q@
by scweezil January 22, 2008 5:20 PM PST
They are still projecting 37% higher than Q2 of last years...I'd call
that growth.
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Irrational markets
by hardmanb January 22, 2008 5:53 PM PST
Apples entire product ecosystem is in place, and growing sales and revenue. 2008 will see much more introduction into other countries, and foreign sales and revenue growth are the best insurance against a recessionary US Market.

If the market thinks (steadily growing, cash-rich and debt-free) Apple should be downgraded, what will they think about the others? Especially those with major problems like Sprint, Motorola, Palm. 2008 looks bloody for Tech stocks.
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Half Empty?
by wethackrey January 22, 2008 8:12 PM PST
You wonder why we're sliding into in a recession? It is, no small measure, due to guys like Tom Krazit who label Apple's Q1 as simply "nice" and their Q2 forecast and guidance as "pessimestic". $6.8 Billion in revenue is hardly "pessimestic", no matter what the "what have you done for me lately" Wall Street types expect.

Let's be sure to also point out that Apple's iPod sales of "only" 22.1 million was "disappointing" and downplay the fact that iPod revenue was actually UP by 17 percent. Somehow this is a bad thing. It would be better, I guess, to have to sell more units to make less money.

As a Mac and iPhone user, I'm plenty happy with Apple. And as an Apple investor who bought at under $30 BEFORE THE SPLIT, I'm plenty happy as well.
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More Half Empty
by wethackrey January 23, 2008 4:45 AM PST
To reinforce my earlier point, Nick Wingfield, writing in the Wall Street Journal, chimed in with more of this "the glass is half empty" nonsense. He leads with "Apple Inc.'s shares sank after the company issued a tepid outlook, stoking worries that sales of its gadgets may suffer from a weakening economy." This despite Apple specifically stating that they would "leave the economic forecasting to others". A "tepid" outlook. Wingfield should be so lucky as to have a Q2 as "tepid" as Apple's.
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Stock: Apple Down 18% today vs MS down 2% today
by john55440 January 23, 2008 10:17 AM PST
Apple stock is falling much faster/farther than the market as a whole, or other tech companies

Right now, Apple stock is down 18%, for today alone. In contrast, Microsoft stock is "only" down 2% for the day. (Source: Bloomberg.)
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Marketing Expenses versus R&D
by sanenazok January 23, 2008 1:00 PM PST
What's Apple? By FAR their biggest expense is marketing:
R&D = 246 mil
Marketing = 960 mil
In all honesty, they have some nice ads. Apparently they have nearly a billion dollars worth of ads.

http://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/320193/000119312508009715/0001193125-08-009715.txt
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After todays earning and forecast annoucement...
by jessiethe3rd January 24, 2008 2:23 PM PST
You'll see what's going up. BTW - you have got to be living under Apple's manufacturing rock to not know that Microsoft has released more applications over the last 2 years then in the history of the company. Microsoft doesn't make computers moron - they make software... yeah it's not flashy... yeah it's not as beautiful - but let's remember - they make software.

When they do make hardware they do a darn good job of it - see Xbox 360 (version 2 xbox) has been clubbing the competition pretty well since its release.

Apple's number one application by a secondary vendor... guess what it is? No - it's not Open Office - it's Microsoft Office. Microsoft is kicking ass and taking names in the corporate sector - stealing away business from the likes of IBM and Oracle as they shuffle out low cost software.

Sorry man - your comments just don't make any sense.
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New information about future Apple technology.
by ralfthedog January 25, 2008 12:22 AM PST
I have just found out from an inside source that the next version of the iPhone will incorporate anti positron technology. This is a very reliable source and I am 100% sure that it is true.
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