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October 22, 2007 7:06 PM PDT

More to Mac sales than a halo

by Tom Krazit
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It's very easy to take a look at Apple's stellar fourth quarter and conclude that the long-awaited iPod "halo effect" is in full swing and move onto something more pressing, like handicapping the World Series.

Are Mac sales really soaring simply because people like iPods?

(Credit: James Martin/CNET Networks)

For years as the iPod took over the digital music player market, we all wondered whether it was a one-hit wonder, whether Apple could translate that success into increased Mac market share. Millions of people who might not have used an Apple product since they spent the third grade playing Oregon Trail on an Apple II were re-introduced to Apple through the iPod, and for the last year or so, they would appear to be trying the other things on the menu.

Apple announced Monday that Mac shipments were up 34 percent during the last quarter, the most successful period of computer sales ever for Apple (neé Computer) Inc. Overall, Apple sold 2.2 million Macs, 400,000 more than the previous record for Mac sales set just last quarter.

The iPod often gets the credit for increased Mac shipments, described as the "halo effect" over past years. The thinking is that iPod customers, having enjoyed their iPod experience and having seen Apple in a new light, might be more inclined to pick up a Mac while shopping for a new iPod case and realizing their old PC is woefully out of date.

But despite the recent results, it's still just not that simple. Apple said during its earnings conference call that half of the customers who bought Macs at its retail store last quarter were new Mac owners. Viewed against total Mac shipments of 2.2 million during the quarter, that's actually not all that many brand-new Mac users.

Apple sold 473,000 Macs at its retail stores. That means we're talking about something like 200,000 people last quarter who were new to the Mac--assuming some number of people bought multiple Macs to send the twins off to college--and the rest are Mac veterans upgrading to a new Macbook or one of the new iMacs. It's fair to assume that there was some percentage of new Mac customers who bought their systems online or through other channels, but an Apple representative declined to share any statistics on the percentage of new buyers in those other areas.

Obvious as it may seem, it's really hard to quantify the halo effect. Believe me, I've just spent the last several hours trying. The numbers seem simple: Apple has sold more than 120 million iPods to date, and Mac shipments are growing much faster than the overall market.

But Hewlett-Packard's worldwide shipments are growing twice as fast as the overall market. Acer's worldwide shipments are growing at nearly four times the overall market. Even in the U.S., where Apple does the majority of its business and is the third-leading PC vendor, everyone but Dell is growing much faster than the overall market. HP might have a brand name in printers, but nobody, even HP, has a consumer product with nearly the cachet of the iPod.

Maybe Mac shipments are growing because people have had two or three Windows PCs in their lifetime, and are looking for something different. Maybe Mac shipments are growing because people are upgrading older PowerPC-based systems to Intel-based systems. Maybe younger buyers, a larger segment of the population than us Gen Xers, prefer the Mac over the PC. And, yes, maybe Mac shipments are growing because of the amazing swirl around Apple in 2007 spearheaded by the iPhone.

It would be silly to say the iPod has had no effect on the way Apple is viewed by the public. Anyway you slice it, the iPod contributed to a more positive impression of the company among those who hadn't always supported Apple as a matter of principle.

But I'm not convinced that you can draw a direct line between iPods and Macs. Are you more likely to buy an HP PC because you own (and like) your HP printer? Are you more likely to buy a Sony television because you've spent thousands of quality hours with your PlayStation 2? Maybe, maybe not.

I will throw this out there: I think more people are buying Macs because there is no longer a penalty for switching to a Mac. After all, you can run Windows on a Mac, open and edit Word documents in Mac OS, and you probably spend most of your time on one Web page or another that doesn't care what operating system is in control.

With only small technical differences to worry about, the purchasing decision comes down to branding and marketing. Apple may resonate in your brain because you like your iPod, but I'd argue that the company's combination of world-class marketing, a laser-like focus on design, and the decision to switch to Intel's chips has done more for Mac sales than any one factor alone.

Tom Krazit writes about the ever-expanding world of Internet search, including Google, Yahoo, online advertising, and portals, as well as the evolution of mobile computing. He has written about traditional PC companies, chip manufacturers, and mobile computers, spending the last three years covering Apple. E-mail Tom.
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iPod connector in iPhone
by MyRightEye October 22, 2007 7:48 PM PDT
Why does your graphic for this blog show an iPod connector
plugged into the iPhone instead of the iPhone's connector?
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Re: connector
by psedog October 22, 2007 9:04 PM PDT
Probably because it fits!
The iPod connector fits in the iPhone. It fits in mine. The only
difference I can see between the two is that the iPhone
connector is shorter.
Can Run Windows Too
by aconsolati October 22, 2007 7:50 PM PDT
"I will throw this out there: I think more people are buying Macs because there is no longer a penalty for switching to a Mac"

Of course - that's why I'm buying one. You don't need to be a genius to work that out!
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2 for 1
by yardi15 October 23, 2007 10:58 AM PDT
I bought an Ipod and later bought my first MacBook. The ipod purchase had nothing to do with the purchase of the MacBook. One of the issues that have prevented me from buying an Apple pc in the past has been the fact that the software choices were limited. This is no longer a concern. I bought a mac simple because I can run both operating systems and it has worked out great so far.
iMac.
by geronamo October 25, 2007 4:10 PM PDT
I installed Windows Vista on my Imac useing the Apple drivers.You need 2 GB to do this.You can split the hard drive and use a program that is free on the imac called Boot Camp or buy a program from Apple.
It's not iPods selling all those Macs
by rcrusoe October 22, 2007 7:55 PM PDT
IMO, it's Microsoft that is responsible for many Mac sales.

As an IT professional I'm always getting "help me buy a
computer" questions, but lately more and more people are
asking about Macs.

Why? Because, as many of them tell me, it's because they are
tired of all the work it takes to own a PC. They are tired of the
crashes, the viruses, the spyware, the fact that windows slows
down over time. They are just fed up with what they have and
want to know if it's true that Macs "just work".

I tell them that no computer is totally secure. That any
operating system can get a virus, but so far, OS X hasn't - but
that could change tomorrow. But, they ask, are Macs really as
easy to use as the advertisements say?

To which I have to answer, Yes.
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Macs work, Windows don't.
by lil_pengy October 22, 2007 8:05 PM PDT
There hasn't been a single virus *EVER* written or released for the Macintosh or Linux. It's a plain fact, Windows Wannabes. Penguinisto has made this claim many times and he's 100% right.

It's impossible to do it. Believe in the penguin. You can't have a virus on a Mac or Linux system. Can't happen, won't happen, impossible.

Only people who like to waste their time own or use Windows products.

Believe in the penguin and you'll never go wrong. Linux is the only one true OS of any serious IT professional.
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"the fact that windows slows down over time"
by tundraboy October 22, 2007 8:47 PM PDT
That is soooo true. I have a 4 year old MacPro and starts up as fast as it did on day 1. My two windows machines just seem to get slower and slower each year and I don't know what the hell to do (other than reloading which is a royal pita) to get them back to a crisper, snappier state.
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Yes!
by dolynn October 24, 2007 8:35 AM PDT
This comment hit home with me totally. And is the exact reason I am switching to a Mac in the Spring.
no mention...
by essron October 22, 2007 8:24 PM PDT
of the operating system? that whole essay but no mention of osx as a major factor in all the cross elasticities suggested?
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The buzz started with iPod
by tundraboy October 22, 2007 8:29 PM PDT
But that only gets you the initial attention. Then you have to follow it up with one great product after another. I believe that Apple is on a path that will lead it into the eventual domination of the consumer electronics market. It is the same path that Toyota trod for 25 years to reach the top of the auto industry and it will take about as long for Apple. The only thing that can stop them is if something happens to Jobs.

Microsoft is GM to Apple's Toyota. They are dead in the water. They are in the middle of transitioning from a CEO with a flawed vision to one with NO vision.
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iPod not driving Mac sales, Vista is.
by Acaykath October 22, 2007 8:31 PM PDT
Vista and Mac are equally secure, but there are more people trying to compromise vista, and an equally large amount of pop up boxes to go with it.

Vista is catering to the RIAA and AVs, and other large corporations, making the product not work, have compatibility issues, and opening holes where there should be none. Mac is owned and controlled by one company, and one man. Steve Jobs bows to no corporation.

Vista has rounded corners on windows. I can't remember a time when Macs did not have rounded corners.

You can install Windows on a Mac, but not the other way around. IF you want both, gotta buy a Mac.

Personally I see no reason to downgrade from XP to Vista, and personally, I'd rather use a Mac or Linux machine than Vista.
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Lame
by ewsachse October 22, 2007 9:06 PM PDT
Why would anyone who has Windows want a Mac? So they can have an overpriced computer that runs less than 1% of the software that is available to Windows users? So they can make themselves obsolete from good paying professional jobs? So they can stroke Steve Jobs ego?
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Have to agree
by zeke2.0 October 23, 2007 7:42 AM PDT
Vista is the best thing to happen to Apple in a long time. With bootcamp you can run windows if you want to, I know people buying macs and running both mac and Windows.

MS is using the entire world to beta test an operating system designed to protect large media corporations instead empowering people.
And with MAC, you get the whole operating system, not a stripped down version (or having to pay up to 300.00 USD for the really really good version that gives you everything.. called "Vista Ultimate") and still give up things you took for granted in Windows XP.

For the first time in 20 years, I'm seriously looking at a MAC. I'll make my decision in the Nov Dec timeframe.

Yes I make my living programming for Windows, so I'll keep a cheap low end PC around for that. Lots of low priced, very low end Athlon X2 boxs out there from Dell, NewEgg and BestBuy.
But for everything else, I'm looking at a MAC. (btw, I am also a low budget indie movie maker).
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Agreed - Microsoft (vista) drove me to Apple
by wzrobin October 23, 2007 7:49 AM PDT
When the time came for a new laptop, I was going to go with another Win XP machine, but at the time Microsoft (and their partners) were trying to force Vista down people's throats, none of the machines I wanted were available with XP, and I didn't feel like paying an extra license to upgrade from Vista to XP.

So I decided to give Apple a serious look, the safety net of being able to install XP (since this was after the Intel switch) was enough for me to decide to take the dive. I've got parallels for the few Win apps I can't get away from (but I probably only go into it once a week or so). The rest of the time I'm in OS X and very happy with it. So happy that I replaced my wife's machine with a Mac as well.

Microsoft is working very hard to drive their customers away. IMO that will have a bigger effect than the IPOD halo effect.
It's Berlin after the partition
by grendelicious October 22, 2007 8:32 PM PDT
?After all . . . you probably spend most of your time on one Web
page or another that doesn't care what operating system is in
control.?

That's the main reason people switch to Apple's OS (or Linux):
the browser wars are over. The polyglot neutrality of cyberspace
?via Java, Flash, Ajax, etc?has taught people how little it
matters what GUI or platform they use. If you can run OS A and
OS B, who cares if Apple makes the machine? The web's the
destination.

And then the user gets accustomed to Jobs & Co.'s obsessive
polish, and they're hooked. High quality industrial design: it's
diabolic!
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The Microsoft Backlash Factor Helps Apple
by RicRoe October 22, 2007 8:39 PM PDT
Your article fails to mention the possibility that some former Windows users no loner are willing to commit to Vista with its draconian call home verification requirements, lack of drivers and the typical new from Microsoft bugs.

Microsoft continues to release new OS versions that not only require investment in an brand new PC, but will not accept many hardware upgrades.

I have been a windows user for over 15 years, but XP is my final PC/Windows purchase.

M<y next PC purchase will be from Apple, they simply offer a better product that is more stable, secure and functional right out of the box, something Microsoft seems unable to offer.
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Apple Troll
by ewsachse October 22, 2007 9:03 PM PDT
Sure. Right.

After you buy that Apple product and realize that it does nothing and has less software than Linux but for more money that two Windows PC's, then you will feel real stupid as you crawl back to Windows.
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really?
by tahoerick2000 October 22, 2007 9:16 PM PDT
I am sorry, while Mac is better in some regards....The IPOD for one, None of the business software I use everyday comes for Mac, and Bootcamp does not cut it. I love my IPods, and will never consider any other product....due to the ease of using the IPod. While I think the IPhone is a great product.....I don't like at&t/cingular....and won't ever buy the product while it is locked both to a 2nd rate network, and closed to software from open source. Good luck....Apple....you some things so well....and other things not so much (like signing exclusive contracts with lame cell carriers). Best of luck in capturing more market share.....let me know if you ever get about single digit market share. Sad no matter how lame Microsoft might be, they still control the market.
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hasta la vista
by sickofbill October 22, 2007 9:19 PM PDT
I left Microsoft for Apple at home with the continuing windows
issues (Vista). I have to use what the company chooses for work,
but why tolerate it at home. I bought 2 Macs, an Airport extreme,
but nothing from McAfee or Norton! The computers have been
running without a crash since I bought them 3 months ago.
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You guys make me laugh
by mvpcarl October 22, 2007 10:06 PM PDT
Hey sickofbill, this is sickofsteve welcoming you to the wonderful world of computers with 1 button on the touchpad. I know that you are sick of Bill and his Vista, I read the letter that you wrote to me describing your troubles with it as well. We here at Apple want to solve those problems. We want to tell you that the Windows issues you were having (I know it's confusing having 2 mouse buttons) were caused by your lack of knowledge that there was a button on the other side of the mouse.

In your letter you wrote saying "I bought this Dell because I saw someone else's computer with a really nice picture as their background on their desktop, and their screen saver was equally as cool. But Windows SUCKS, I have NO WAY to change it, it's like the only people that Microsoft caters to are geniuses that know all about computers. I want something that JUST WORKS!"
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lots of luck
by tahoerick2000 October 22, 2007 9:26 PM PDT
I tried a dual boot system. 99% of the software
I need to do my job is PC only, and will be for a long time (the developers explained it like this....why double our software budget to support a tiny customer base). The dual boot system was a major pain in the rump to install, and did not work as well as my 4+ year old PC. I have not had a crash with my PC in years either....with simple spyware/malware software, and just simple virus protection none of my machines has ever been infected. Mac might be better.....but it does not do the job I need (yet?). Also, don't fool yourself.....a virus can be written for the Mac...no one has bothered to do it yet.
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No Luck Required
by Greg Sparkman October 23, 2007 12:37 AM PDT
First, if 99% of the software you need is PC only then there is obviously little reason for you to dual boot. Apple's Boot Camp is fantastically easy to set up. It creates properly formated partions on the fly and installs a clean set of drivers to make Windows run on Macs without a hitch. I'm typing this on an new iMac booted into Vista. In the background I have a CAD file rendering out to huge image for print reproduction. I own multiple PC desktops and Servers, along with many more Macs. I enjoy the freedom of running Windows XP or Vista via natively running Boot Camp or via a virtual machine in Parallels (which also works great). But greatest joy is being back on my Mac when my Windows needs are finished.
I have luck, I use Mac :-)
by eldernorm October 23, 2007 12:30 PM PDT
So, boot up in the PC version, and just do things a normal. OPPPS got a major virus. You are stuck. Unless, you can re open in Mac and keep trucking.

And its never SIMPLE virus and Spyware. I am constantly cleaning. Every day it takes over 1/2 hour at startup and close down to clean.

PS. 115,000 to zero. and only one side is currently increasing. :-)
The developers you talked to are idiots
by MSSlayer October 23, 2007 1:31 PM PDT
Only a poor developer would need to double to the budget to support multiple platforms.

A competent developer can support several platforms easily, with very little extra cost.
One word why I switched from PC to Mac...
by dillholio October 22, 2007 10:19 PM PDT
Vista. Need I say more?
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You are a joker?
by alenas October 22, 2007 10:39 PM PDT
Only complete retards say that Vista is not good.
People who use Vista everyday since beta 1 and who know about computers, do not have any problems with any OS or any hardware.
Why everyone is blaming Microsoft for the fact that most computer manufacturers put a lot of crapware on new PC's? Is it hard for "average" person to uninstall crapware?
And people always call themselves "smart", but when it comes to making smart decision and clicking few buttons - they just can not do it. I call that kind of people computer illiterate :)
For those people - OSX is the best choice - they will not have the choice of the software there - they will have to use what Steves tells them to use and they will be fine. Steve is a shepard and all other Mac users are sheep without their own brains :)
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Vista is terrible
by richardhaskins October 23, 2007 8:35 AM PDT
I've never been a fan of Macs, but I really like my new iPhone and Vista has made me angry enough to consider trying a Mac.
I was one of them
by alenas October 22, 2007 10:30 PM PDT
I bought new MacBook Pro 15.4" 2.2 just 3 months ago. The reason why I bought it was that there were no other laptop PC with Nvidia 8600 or ATI HD2600. MacBook Pro (MBP) was the first that came with good video and Santa Rosa chipset. And MBP price was definitely better than the same spec PC laptop.
I had a lot of problems with MBP - for example there were not all x64 drivers, some drivers for ACPI, touchpad intentionally lacked necessary features, MBP gets really hot, etc...Also I never used OSX - cause there is plenty of software that works only on Windows and even viewing webpages is not the same (people forget that OSX does not have same fonts as windows machines - so fonts look a lot different - very smooth on Vista, crap on Linux or OSX).
In the end of August they released ThinkPad T61p and HP 8510p, which have better price and even better build quality that MBP. So I sold my MBP and bought T61p.
Now I have all the drivers, T61p never gets as hot and I bet I will not look back to Mac again :)
So I was attracked to MBP spec wise, but not for long. If we would compare All-In-Ones - then iMac is the best deal hardware wise again, because all other AIO PC's are more expensive and do not have as good video.
Honestly I do not understand why PC manufacturers like Sony, Gateway and HP do not understand that video hardware is very important in purchasing decision...People want to play games...
In gaming comunity there were many people that like me got MBP, just because PC manufacturers were late with Santa Rosa and latest video hardware...
It will be interesting to see how Apple will do in the 4th quarter...
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no T61 for me
by sevort October 23, 2007 8:01 AM PDT
Although, MBP is not as good as PB Titanium, ASSymetrical screen of Lenovo T61 killed me at hello... I am sure, this is the reason why they're having problems selling it.
Macs all the way
by NorthernYukoner October 22, 2007 10:39 PM PDT
In 1987 I owned a Mac SE
In 1992 I added a PowerBook 100
In 1994 I bought a Mac 575 to replace the SE
2002 It was a new iBook
In 2003 It was an EMac to replace the 575
2006 A MacBook Pro

Mac has always been the way for me...
The iPods are great and I really like the iTouch
My MACS have aged well, been productive and fun!
Well Done Steve!
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you must feel so honored
by pfletcher October 23, 2007 8:47 AM PDT
to have been so taken by the Great Jobs....
Man it must be sad to be you
by The Sheik October 22, 2007 11:18 PM PDT
I look at all the the comments from Window users and it must suck to be in the dark, you guys really think that your ancient OS including Vista (ME part 2) really compares to OSX or even Linux, you can't be that clueless. You guys are the sheep because you do what you are suppose to do, that's why you always talk about market share which is a ridiculous argument, so because there are more Fords on the road than Ferrari's Fords are better cars? Look at admit it, their only two types of Pc users, those own a Mac and those that want a Mac, my guess is that you are the latter thats why your trolling for Mac articles. You guys are so transparent, get a life or better yet get a mac and stop hating.
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Ferrari vs Ford
by pfletcher October 23, 2007 10:13 AM PDT
As a functional device for travelling from A to B and back - yes a Ford is a better device than a Ferrari. Costs less to buy, less to run and will do what most people want - nice analogy you had going there bubba
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aaannnd Linux. Ubuntu Gutsy user.
by ethana2 October 22, 2007 11:54 PM PDT
Besides, over half the code in OSX is from either ours or the BSD community anyway. I honestly believe that if it weren't for us, Apple software would be /nothing/ like it is today.

But then, when you control every hardware variable, you can feign stability pretty easily... Maybe they would have been okay... but I refuse to buy hardware just for an OS. I have considered building a hackint0sh, however. Any advice for me?
ethana2@gmail.com
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Silly Argument Goes on for decades...
by Goodbye Helicopter October 23, 2007 12:15 AM PDT
If the OS and software stack satisfy you, use it.
I use Linux & Windows when I have to. No problem. Mac the rest
of the time. Why?! It does work. It gets out of your way. We're
not talking idiot level "it just works" but rather, using the
machine for everything: graphics, video, development, you name
it. Crash? Never. Virus? None. Software? Lots!
Sure there is a lot of crappy software on windows, MS makes
plenty of that themselves.
OS X costing double to develop for? Only if they have crappy
devs. If those devs are worth their salt, they should already know
something about coding for Unix and Linux. If they can do that,
they can learn OS X programming in no time. Productivity?
Super. Crossplatform programming is real and not difficult.
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Right and Wrong
by jd29 October 23, 2007 2:08 AM PDT
"I think more people are buying Macs because there is no longer a penalty for switching to a Mac. After all, you can run Windows on a Mac, open and edit Word documents in Mac OS, and you probably spend most of your time on one Web page or another that doesn't care what operating system is in control."

This is obviously true, but ignored by most analysts. I think it's because the point requires a grasp of history that most people don't have (sorry most people!). But the internet has become the most important 'platform'. That means the network effect that allowed a single OS to become dominant in the early 90s is gone forever. Add in the fact that of more than enough spare computing power that can be devoted to solving OS compatibility issues, and the future is bright for competitors to windows. There used to be real reasons to buy the same OS as everyone else. But today it matters zero.

But there are other reasons for Macs success:
- the iPod halo effect. Brand awareness and product satisfaction are undeniably important. Are you more likely to buy an HP computer because you love your HP printer? The answer to that is, generally, an unequivocal and undeniable yes.
- Like Apple's other products of late, OS X is simply a great product. If it sucked like Vista, the iPod halo effect and other incidental factors would mean very little.
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I switched to PC because of poor policy
by cnet-sucks October 23, 2007 3:35 AM PDT
Macs are not the most reliable. There are many hardware defects right out of the box (checkout youtube imac beep of death for example), that often, apple will sweep under the rug, until they get a class action or some customer will post a web site or video complaint controversy.
Also their support and customer service is not consistent. Their 'phone police' won't let you pass the 'gates' of apple support, unless you know the secret word (your serial number).
HP does not do this. They start helping you with your problem right away. No harassing right from the get go.

Apple also harasses you with FORCING you to register when you turn on a mac for the first time, and at the retail counter, will make you feel guilty if you don't buy the optional AppleCare.

Then tech support will make you feel like 'you better get applecare before its too late, or you'll regret it (we won't help youuu...).'

I used to recommend Macs to everyone I know, but with all this unfriendliness in what used to be the 'smiling computer' when you turned it on, and the focus on all things ipod, ithis, and ithat, instead of iMac, iGaveUp...
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Gahhh
by Thomas, David October 23, 2007 8:49 AM PDT
Hardly believable, and you must be one seriously sensitive person.
Of course, that's why you would "rebel" and choose something else
with a lower customer support/satisfaction rating. Oh, i see, you
were trolling. Got it.
What About a Vastly Superior OS?
by AJ Pants October 23, 2007 4:20 AM PDT
It's hilarious how much it pains the writers of this site to give Apple any sort of credit. Look at the OS, it's light years ahead of Windows. Look at the functionality, usability and stability. Windows can not even compete.
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superior OS is a joke
by joehoff October 23, 2007 8:27 AM PDT
I run both a Mac 10.4 and Vista side by side, as for Mac being "Light Years Ahead" that is a joke. OS X looks and feels like a MAC from the early days, with the toolbar on top of my 23" monitor. In order to access the applications that are not on my doc, I need to go throught the annoying Finder application, another reminant from the 1980s. How about the keyboard, in which the apple key doesn't open the apple menu - another legacy from the old days. And finally, the fact that to empty the trash, I need to go to the File Menu of finder - that's real user friendly.
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The real deal
by iKenny October 23, 2007 6:20 AM PDT
People seem shocked that Apple's selling more Macs, but really, it boils down
to common sense. Consider the fact that most people use their computers to
do two things: browse the internet and check e-mail. Really. Why, when there
are two computers equally capable of doing this, would you buy the one that
is susceptible to attack? Is there any reason? I use my Mac every day and
viruses never cross my mind. I don't worry if I get an e-mail with a suspicious
file in it. It's a .exe anyway. Or if I receive a file from someone that could be
infected. If there's a nastie hidden inside, it's not for Mac.

I'm not saying Macs are invulnerable, because I'm almost certain they're not,
but I am saying why even bother with viruses, trojans, worms, adware,
spyware, and the plethora of other malware existing for Windows? Why put
yourself through that? If, like many computer users today, your primary goal
is internet internet internet, then there's absolutely, positively, no viable
reason to continue to run Windows.
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