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October 13, 2009 1:17 PM PDT

iMovie update reveals new Apple video format

by Jim Dalrymple
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Like most companies, Apple periodically releases software updates for its applications, fixing minor issues. However, an iMovie update released on Tuesday revealed a brand new video format the company has been developing.

(Credit: Apple)

Dubbed iFrame, the new video format is based on industry standard technologies like H.264 video and AAC audio. As expected with H.264, iFrame produces much smaller file sizes than traditional video formats, while maintaining its high-quality video. Of course, the smaller file size increases import speed and helps with editing video files.

iMovie 8.0.5 released on Tuesday adds compatibility with camcorders using the iFrame video format. Currently there are two cameras that support iFrame: the Sanyo VPC-HD2000A and the Sanyo VPC-FH1A.

The two cameras were introduced earlier Tuesday and default to shooting video in the new format. iFrame shoots at 960x540. The cameras can also record in high-definition 1080p (1920x1080), as well as high-speed video formats for slow-motion playback, according to Sanyo.

Apple hasn't said how long it has been working on iFrame or if other video camera manufacturers would adopt the format. The company also didn't say when support for the iFrame format would be added to its Final Cut Pro video-editing suite.

The iMovie update can be downloaded from Apple's Web site or from the software update mechanism in Mac OS X.

Jim Dalrymple has followed Apple and the Mac industry for the last 15 years, first as part of MacCentral and then in various positions at Macworld. A guitar player for 20 years, Jim also writes about the professional audio market, examining the best ways to write and record songs on a Macintosh with Logic Pro and Pro Tools. Jim is a member of the CNET Blog Network and is not an employee of CNET.
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by sanenazok October 13, 2009 1:38 PM PDT
Another proprietary format from Apple? No way!
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by WinNoMo October 13, 2009 1:44 PM PDT
Another uninformed statement? No way!

"the new video format is based on industry standard technologies like H.264 video and AAC audio"
by biggstuu October 13, 2009 2:18 PM PDT
wow sanenazok, your ignorance doth bubble forth LOL. RTA
by terminalblue October 13, 2009 2:42 PM PDT
Hey iTools, BASED on is not the same as being the original. a prefect example is the Vodei CoDec. It is basically Divx but in a new wrapper...

and that is all this new CoDec is, a wrapper just so apple can lock a new PROPRIETARY format into their devices instead of using open, universal standards.
by sanenazok October 14, 2009 6:24 AM PDT
"based on" still makes it an incompatible wrapper. Basically, it's like saying Office 2007 file formats are not proprietary since they're based on .zip files. If this wasn't new platform lock-in then ALL cameras would support it, even old ones. Nope, it's a new thing that brings new licensing fees for Apple.
by Gold_Storm_Mac October 13, 2009 1:51 PM PDT
sounds interesting. never heard of such a thing. didn't know at all about this new format coming out
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by cvaldes1831 October 13, 2009 1:51 PM PDT
It's too early to render a verdict on this new format. We know very little about it, licensing, etc.

A little patience is applicable in situations like these.
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by fun2program8 October 13, 2009 5:55 PM PDT
+1
by mpitogo October 13, 2009 1:54 PM PDT
flash is proprietary and no one seems to complain about it. I just recently installed click-to-flash to stop unwanted CPU cycles being wasted from flash ads and mis junk I don't want rammed down my browser.
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by Kris Linna October 13, 2009 2:01 PM PDT
Me, too. So far I'm really liking Click-to-Flash. On some web pages it's shocking how much Flash there is that I never noticed before. My system is noticeably more responsive with a bunch of web pages open at once.

Off topic, I know.

Back on...I hope iFrame doesn't take as long to render out at H.264 does. Even on a fast machine H.264 renderings drive me crazy.
by Perry_Clease October 13, 2009 3:11 PM PDT
"flash is proprietary and no one seems to complain about it."

Well I complain about it a lot. Not that it is proprietary, but because it can be annoying. :)

I too have Click-To-Flash installed and it is real handy. When you really need to see that Flash video all you need to do is click to play it.
by Synthmeister October 13, 2009 1:59 PM PDT
I doubt it's proprietary. Apple has learned its lesson. Safari based on Webkit--Opensource, Quicktime based on H.264--open standard. iTMS music based on AAC--open standard, Firewire-now an open standard, Mini-DisplayPort--open standard based on Displayport which is an open standard.

Besides, the article even says it's based on "industry standard technologies like H.264 video and AAC audio. "
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by sbwinn October 13, 2009 2:45 PM PDT
I'm no expert, but I think H.264 is based on Quicktime -- not the other way around. MPEG 4 adopted quicktime as its file format. H.264 is part of the MPEG 4 spec.
by mbenedict October 13, 2009 2:58 PM PDT
You're both wrong.

Quicktime isn't based on h.264, and h.264 isn't based on Quicktime.
by kenohki October 13, 2009 3:36 PM PDT
MPEG4's base file format is based on QuickTime. Different codecs can be used within that file format or container. For example, MPEG4 AVC uses H.264 as the video codec.
by Synthmeister October 13, 2009 3:42 PM PDT
Correct, Quicktime simply exploits H.264 as its preferred codec. From Apple:

"QuickTime 7 features a state-of-the-art video codec called H.264, which delivers stunning quality at remarkably low data rates. Ratified as part of the MPEG-4 standard (MPEG-4 Part 10), this ultra-efficient technology gives you excellent results across a broad range of bandwidths, from 3G for mobile devices to iChat AV for video conferencing to HD for broadcast and DVD."

And:

Why is H.264 being included in QuickTime 7?
A few years ago, the International Organization for Standardization selected the QuickTime file format as the basis for MPEG-4. QuickTime in turn embraced open standards and now leads the market in MPEG-4, 3GPP and 3GPP2 content creation and playback. Apple continues to build on this commitment to open standards by incorporating H.264 ? the latest MPEG-4 video codec ? directly into QuickTime.
by Steve__S October 13, 2009 2:07 PM PDT
This sounds like a nice alternative to AVCHD, but is the resolution limited to 960 x 540 for this format? That would be a mistake if I read that correctly.
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by dennisheadley October 13, 2009 2:35 PM PDT
I was wondering the same thing. Is it the format limiting it or just those particular cameras that are limiting it?
by Tergon October 13, 2009 3:06 PM PDT
Wow strangly nobody has mentioned that the term "iFrame" is already an accepted and widely used techterm and part of the HTML standard usage. Apple Should not be aloud to do this
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by Perry_Clease October 13, 2009 3:12 PM PDT
"Apple Should not be aloud to do this'

Can they do it quietly :)
by Tergon October 13, 2009 3:23 PM PDT
Dangit press send before grammer check :P
by macgroover October 13, 2009 11:08 PM PDT
Or even a *grammar* check :-)
by Seaspray0 October 13, 2009 3:17 PM PDT
"iFrame shoots at 960x540. The cameras can also record in high-definition 1080p (1920x1080)"

And which one do you think consumers will pick to play back on their HD TV's?
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by Philips October 14, 2009 2:45 PM PDT
Obviously iFrame because nobody -without a microscope- sees a damm little difference even between 720p v. 1080p.

And since iFrame would be processed at much higher speeds (due to lower resolution) but still deliver sufficient quality many consumers would obviously pick it.
by Gold_Storm_Mac October 14, 2009 3:53 PM PDT
there is a difference between 720p and 1080p. no need for anything.
by dk jones October 13, 2009 3:36 PM PDT
It is also quite likely Apple may build this codec into future video cams placed into the iPhone, iPod Nano & perhaps eventually the iPod Touch, just my 1st thought reading this article... So it would seem to make sense from a certain perspective for Apple to introduce/include a new codec @ this time & how interesting that it's been added to the previous version of iMovie. Is this codec also available in iMovie 09? Also since the rez is higher than SD but, less than HD(1280 x 720p) is it perhaps more for watching video on a device larger than an iPhone/iPod Touch?... or maybe an improvement for Web video that is faster & less resource hungry than Flash & less proprietary(DRM'ed) than Silverlight? just the earliest thoughts i'm having after reading this....
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by databrain October 13, 2009 4:06 PM PDT
As if we already have enough video formats to pick and choose from yet another is added to the confusion. Why cant we just pick a format and actually make it a standard? Its hard enough as it is to go out and buy a video camera and decide what format it records and find out witch format is best for editing. If that's not enough, there is the whole debate over witch is the best format to export! Dvix, Xvid, H.264 and the list goes on and on!
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by LunaticSX October 13, 2009 4:53 PM PDT
DivX and XviD are commonly confused as video formats and/or file formats. In reality, they are codecs and/or libraries that output MPEG-4 video.
by MacDellMan October 13, 2009 8:51 PM PDT
What about actual .MTS file support. There are tons of cameras that record in this industry standard format...but no Apple products (outside of their most expensive professional video products) support it (without conversion.) However, just about every PC product does. SO>>> what will consumers really choose. iFrame is a good year or two away from true adoption (if even then...). I love the Mac, but can't use something that won't do basic video editing in a format I can use. MPEG files are twice the size of .MTS files...so NO THANKS!
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by SynchroM October 14, 2009 2:29 PM PDT
MTS, or m2ts are MPEG transport stream files. MTS is used by AVC. Generally editing AVC directly will be a slow and painful process (see my other comment for why) requiring serious hardware, and while some software integrates AVC editing, Apple's doesn't, I'd guess because generally it's not a very good idea. The reason the files get bigger is that they are converted to a more readily editable iframes-only format. After conversion, the editing process can happen much more efficiently, with much lower hardware requirements. That said, it's annoying that Apple didn't provide a choice, or direct support when AVC is so popular.
by MacDellMan October 14, 2009 9:08 PM PDT
SynchroM - thanks for the note. However, remember that just about every PC video editing program can edit native .MTS files...and there is not any slow or painful process involved. I'm running a 2 year old PC laptop with 2GBs of RAM and it can edit 1080i video at full resolution without a single issue or slowdown. My main objection is that Apple works to integrate something other than what's already out in the marketplace. My SMALLER .MTS files edit without issue, are quick and simple to work with....and the finished product looks fab. Too bad that it's not on an Apple...where it seems it should be...
by aafuss October 14, 2009 5:33 AM PDT
Suprised that even Apple's own video recording capable iPod nano doesn't use the new iFrame format-perhaps the 6th generation model will do.
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by spoonie1972 October 14, 2009 6:17 AM PDT
with everyone, it seems, moving *away* from FireWire into USB3, and/or other emerging technologies, does it really matter what cameras support what format, when the host-to-host ability of FW (and related control) is literally disappearing before our eyes? These cameras listed could be a hard-drive on a desk. This seems irrelevant.
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by SynchroM October 14, 2009 2:18 PM PDT
Tergon - That iFrames are used in HTML is irrelevant - the term was used in video long before the web existed.

Everyone that's calling for 'just one format' underestimates the problem. Features of a video format that make it good for editing make it bad for playback/distribution, and vice versa. In compressed video there are typically several frame types: p frames, which are usually the differences from a previous frame to the current one; b frames ('bidirectional') which refer to previous and future frames; finally i frames, which use intraframe-only compression, not referring to any other frame. These are also sometimes called keyframes because they contain a complete frame with no differencing required.

p frames and b frames allow codecs to make massive savings in data rates and facilitate the use of things like motion estimation to maximise the effective compression ratio. They are used in sequences known as GOPs, or groups of pictures, usually beginning with an iframe followed by a pattern of p and b frames. Now imagine that you are editing a movie and you want to make a cut right >here<. What if that frame is a b frame and has dependencies in two directions? You need to seek all over the place to gather up the frames, run the GOP sequence (which may run to hundreds of frames in heavily compressed material) from the last iframe to the current frame (and possibly slightly beyond if it's a bframe) before you end up with a full frame that you can cut at, then you have to rebuild a whole new GOP. All this gives really bad performance for editing. Anyone who has used AVC will be familiar with this problem. DivX etc all use this kind of format, and no surprises, they are all rubbish for editing, great for playback.

The ideal format for editing is "iframes only", where every frame is self-contained (just like a JPEG image), so you can jump to any point in the movie and immediately get a full frame, and when you want to cut, you just cut, no GOP acrobatics necessary. Unfortunately this is bad for playback and distribution as if it's to have decent quality levels, it has to do without all the gains that p and b frames can provide, and thus tends to have very high bandwidth *or smaller frame sizes*. Unfortunately most of the advantages of H.264 are thrown out with the p and b frames.

I'm guessing that 'iFrame' is an iframes-only format. It seems a shame that they would limit it to a small frame size, though this may be a bandwidth issue - 1080p with iframes only would require either massive storage or low quality, but that should really be a user choice. Perhaps the cameras can't handle the data rates it would require?

Upshot of all this is that we need more info, so we'll have to wait and see.
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by CarlinJ216 October 15, 2009 9:12 PM PDT
+1..... great info
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