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September 9, 2009 11:16 AM PDT

Live blog: Apple updates iPods, Jobs takes stage

by Erica Ogg
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Earlier Wednesday, we brought you live coverage of Apple's rock 'n' roll-themed event, which kicked off in San Francisco just after 10 a.m. Pacific time. The event has concluded, but for more iPod-related coverage, click here.

9:55 a.m. PDT: Good morning. We're inside and seated, just waiting for the event to begin. There's quite a crowd in here with some notable names already appearing. Greg Grunberg from TV's "Heroes" is sitting right behind us, and Herbie Hancock and Google's Eric Schmidt have also been spotted.

The crowd awaits Apple news inside the Yerba Buena center in San Francisco.

The crowd awaits Apple news inside the Yerba Buena center in San Francisco.

(Credit: Stephen Shankland/CNET)

9:59 a.m.: Now playing "It's Only Rock 'n Roll" by the Rolling Stones, also the title of the event per the invitation. It looks like we'll be starting momentarily.

10:01 a.m.: Steve Jobs walks out. Standing ovation.

10:02 a.m.: People are still clapping.

He encourages everyone to be an organ donor, and extends a heartfelt thanks to the Apple community. Also, on Tim Cook: "He ran the company very ably during that time." "I'm back at Apple, and loving every day of it," he says.

10:03 a.m.: "I'm very happy to be here today with you all," he says. "As you may know I had a liver transplant. I have the liver of a mid-20s person who died in a car crash. Without that, I wouldn't be here without that person's generosity."

10:04 a.m.: Today we're talking about music. Phil Schiller and Jeff Robbin will join him. First, iPhone stuff. "Thrilling to report that in two years we've sold 30 million iPhones."

10:05 a.m.: In the last year, the reason is the App Store, he says. There are 75,000 apps. 1.8 billion apps downloaded by users, he reports. That doesn't include updates, though.

10:06 a.m.: Today: iPhone OS 3.1. Some bug fixes and new features are coming. The Genius playlist technology is now going to work for apps in the App Store. It will recommend apps to you based on the apps you already own. The recommendations will get better as people say what they like and buy, he says.

Steve Jobs announces iPhone OS 3.1.

Steve Jobs announces iPhone OS 3.1.

(Credit: Stephen Shankland/CNET)

10:07 a.m.: Also: as Greg Sandoval previously reported, there will be ringtones for sale for $1.29 each. You can buy them the way you'd buy music.

10:08 a.m.: iPhone OS 3.1 is free for iPhone and iPod Touch users who have 3.0. It will be made available today. Update 2:58 p.m.: Earlier, it was reported that it would cost iPod Touch users $4.95. The update only costs money to those who had not yet upgraded their iPod Touch to 3.0 or higher.

10:08 a.m.: Now on to iTunes: Steve says iTunes is the No. 1 seller of music in the world. 8.5 billion songs have been purchased and there are 100 million accounts.

Jobs international

Jobs says the iPhone is popular internationally.

(Credit: Stephen Shankland)

10:09 a.m.: Today, iTunes 9 is out. A new look. Cleaner-looking, better navigation.

10:11 a.m.: In iTunes 9: Genius Mixes. Like Genius Playlists, Genius Mixes is like a DJ that plays mixes of songs that go together from your own library. Will make up to 12 mixes at a time.

Steve Jobs takes the stage.

(Credit: Stephen Shankland/CNET)

10:12 a.m.: He says syncing will be better now, too. When syncing playlists you can also sync particular genres or particular artists. Also specific photo albums or specific faces from iPhoto, and specific movies from iTunes. You can also manage your apps syncing in iTunes.

10:13 a.m.: Also something called Home Sharing. With it, you can copy songs, movies, TV shows to up to five authorized computers in your house. Can see what's in all the other authorized computers right from your iTunes account.

10:14 a.m.: The iTunes Store also gets a new look, along with improved artists, movies, and TV pages--a "cleaner" layout, Jobs says.

10:15 a.m.: Another new feature: iTunes LP. "Some of us here are old enough to have bought LPs," Steve says. You can get album art, videos, liner notes, credits, etc. This is clearly the "Cocktail" we've been hearing about. The artists and labels can now have access to adding extras to their albums now.

10:17 a.m.: Jeff Robbin, vice president of consumer applications and lead software designer for iTunes, is now demonstrating the new iTunes. He shows how to drag and drop apps in iTunes to rearrange how they appear on an iPod Touch or iPhone. You can check and uncheck which games or apps you want on the device.

10:19 a.m.: He also shows us how Home Sharing works. You can drag a song or series of songs from other authorized computers to your own library. Can sort by songs that others have that you do not, and can set it so that when others buy new content from iTunes it can be automatically transferred to your library.

10:21 a.m.: There's a new navigation bar in the iTunes Store: music, movies, TV shows, podcasts, audio books, etc.

10:22 a.m.: Can also preview songs directly in the Top Charts section. When browsing the store, you can click an "i" button for a preview of the songs on the album which will allow a quick listen without going to the actual artist or album page. You can also Twitter info and post to Facebook about songs you find in the iTunes Store.

Album view in iTunes 9.

Album view in iTunes 9.

(Credit: Stephen Shankland/CNET)

10:24 a.m.: Now Jeff is showing us iTunes LP. He picks a Doors album. You can see all the songs, all the lyrics, and lots of photos.

10:25 a.m.: There are also videos that he says are exclusive to iTunes LP. For example, Ray Manzarek is talking about how they decided to name the band The Doors.

10:27 a.m.: There's also something called iTunes Extras. Using the movie "Wall-E," he shows there are extra features like short videos, and a way to navigate chapters in the movie.

You can see lyrics with the album view in iTunes 9. Shown here are Dave Matthews lyrics.

(Credit: Stephen Shankland)

10:28 a.m.: Jobs is back on stage. He says iTunes 9 is free and ready to download today. Phil Schiller will come up to talk iPods now.

Twenty million of those sold are iPod Touch, he says.

Schiller mocks Dell's non-pocketable small PC.

(Credit: Stephen Shankland/CNET)

10:29 a.m.: First Schiller's going to talk sales numbers. 220 million iPods sold to date, he says. He says they have 73.8 percent of the market, "with Microsoft pulling up the rear with 1.1 percent." There are a few giggles.

10:33 a.m.: Now Schiller's talking up the computing aspect of the iPod Touch, with Wi-Fi, browsing the Internet on Safari, e-mail, etc. "It fits in your pocket. Not everybody can say that," he says. And he shows a picture on screen of a Dell Netbook. More giggles from the audience.

10:35 a.m.: He says the iPod Touch is a better gaming platform than the PSP or Nintendo DS. He points to $30 game titles on those devices and the buying experience as "too expensive" and "not a lot of fun." He says there are 21,178 "game and entertainment" titles on iPhone OS, compared to 3,600 on Nintendo, and 600 on Sony.

Phil Schiller brags about iPhone as gaming platform.

Phil Schiller brags about the iPhone as a gaming platform.

(Credit: Stephen Shankland)

10:37 a.m.: A few developers of those games are going to come up on stage now. Ubisoft is up first. Ben Mattes from Ubisoft is talking about Assassin's Creed II and how it's coming to the App Store. It'll be out November 11.

10:42 a.m.: Now, Bart Decrem, founder of Tapulous (maker of Tap Tap Revolution) is up. Riddim Ribbon is their new game built "especially for iPhone and iPod Touch." It's a DJ game where you race down a rhythm of a song, Guitar Hero-style. You can remix the song by going different directions down the "ribbon."

10:44 a.m.: Mark Hickey from Gameloft, one of the more prolific App Store game makers, is up. He's showing a new first-person shooter called Nova, where you have to defend humanity against an alien attack in space.

10:47 a.m.: Only one more game developer, Schiller promises. It's Travis Boatman from Electronic Arts. He's talking Madden NFL 10, which is coming to the App Store for the first time.

10:49 a.m.: You can draw plays right on the screen, which draws lots of applause from the audience. Madden 10 is available today in the App Store, Boatman says.

Travis Boatman from Electronic Arts shows the new interface to control the Madden game.

(Credit: Stephen Shankland/CNET)

10:52 a.m.: "$199 is a magic price point in the iPod market," Schiller says. As of today, the iPod Touch is $199 for 8GB and $299 for 32GB. It now also comes in a 64GB model for $399.

10:53 a.m.: OpenGL ES 2.0 is also on the iPod Touch now, so games are faster--except for the $199 version, which will not have that.

Phil Schiller shows new prices and memory configurations for the iPod Touch.

(Credit: Stephen Shankland/CNET)

10:54 a.m.: Now Schiller is discussing the iPod Classic. Now it will be 160GB for $249, which is up from 120GB.

10:57 a.m.: The iPod Shuffle gets its turn. Now it will come in more colors. Pink, green, and blue in addition to the silver and black. It's also now $59 for 2GB and $79 for 4GB. There's also a special edition in stainless steel for $99.

Phil Schiller talks new iPod colors.

Phil Schiller talks new iPod colors.

(Credit: Stephen Shankland/CNET )

10:58 a.m.: Steve's back up. One more thing...a video camera.

10:59 a.m.: "Video has exploded in the last few years," he says. All those streams are coming from solid-state video cameras. He shows a picture of the Flip Video and its 4GB $149 price point. "We want to get in on this," he says. There will be a video camera in the back of every iPod Nano. There's also a mic and a speaker inside.

11:00 a.m.: He says it's just as thin as before, and shows a quick demo video from the device's camera. The videos will sync back to your iPhoto or to YouTube, with one click (another feature of the Flip Video camera).

11:02 a.m.: The voice-over feature from the iPod Shuffle will also be in the Nano, as well as Genius Mixes which were discussed earlier. The Nano will also have an FM radio, a voice recorder app, and pedometer. The pedometer will sync online with Nike Plus.

Jobs shows new video-enabled iPods

Jobs shows new iPods.

(Credit: Stephen Shankland/CNET)

11:04 a.m.: It will come in a variety of colors: pink, red, orange, yellow, green, blue, purple, silver, black. 8GB for $159 and 16GB for $179, both will be available today.

Jobs touted brilliant new iPod colors.

(Credit: Stephen Shankland/CNET)

11:04 a.m.: We're getting a preview of the new ad, which highlights the video feature and colors of the Nano--with a cutesy pop song as backing, of course.

People clap, but there seems to be some palpable disappointment for those expecting a Beatle or Coldplay, which were some of the rumors. She starts with "Come Away with Me."

11:06 a.m.: Now Jobs is talking music. "It's the primary reason we do this." Live performance coming up. It's Norah Jones.

Norah Jones closed the event by performing two songs

Norah "Not a Beatle" Jones closed the event by performing two songs.

(Credit: Stephen Shankland/CNET)

11:11 a.m.: Jones says: "Thanks to Steve Jobs for having us. Really happy to see he's doing well." Now we get a preview of a song from her upcoming album called "Young Blood."

11:15 a.m.: Norah Jones concludes her performance. The lights are back up and Steve's on stage.

11:16 a.m.: He thanks everyone for coming. That's the end, folks. We'll have continuing coverage including reviews of the new devices coming later today from CNET's Donald Bell and plenty of video and further analysis from CNET News. Thanks for joining us!

Erica Ogg is a CNET News reporter who covers Apple, HP, Dell, and other PC makers, as well as the consumer electronics industry. She's also one of the hosts of CNET News' Daily Podcast. In her non-work life, she's a history geek, a loyal Dodgers fan, and a mac-and-cheese connoisseur. E-mail Erica.
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by davidwang512 September 9, 2009 4:42 AM PDT
just cant wait to see what will be showing onstage!
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by Rod Roddy September 9, 2009 10:05 AM PDT
Zune HD, Zune HD, Zune HD ;-D
by RockaTech September 9, 2009 11:42 AM PDT
YAWN....
there was nothing new or interesting here.
a 3 dollar camera on the back of the nano is just not "apple exciting".
what a dissappointment
by izmickey September 9, 2009 7:08 PM PDT
Why did it take apple so long to put a radio on their ipods? Man im sticking to the zuneHD baby. Just because the ipod has a camera doesnt mean its a good quality camera...yawn on apple.
by markosph September 10, 2009 2:21 PM PDT
As much as I dislike Apple (I own an iPod) I am glad Mr Jobs is back, he does these shows much better than the other guys at the company.
by bigwillydier September 9, 2009 5:02 AM PDT
Woo hoo! Bring it Apple!! :)
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by Random_Walk September 9, 2009 6:40 AM PDT
You know? It's a mark of mastering the marketing when CNN headline news (as in, while I type this) is reporting and speculating on Apple's upcoming announcements today.

Meanwhile the competition usually (if they're lucky) has their biggest announcements reported on by the mainstream media after-the-fact, in the tech segments, and even then maybe.
by JazGalaxy September 9, 2009 8:31 AM PDT
Actaully I think Windows Vista recieved quite a bit of worldwide attention in the mainstream press.

I think mainstream news is trying harder to be involved in tech news.
by ThatIsWhatSheSaid September 9, 2009 11:06 AM PDT
Umm, bear in mind his is also Headline News and not actual CNN. This is the same network that reports on celebrity gossip during most of their programming.
by Random_Walk September 9, 2009 12:05 PM PDT
"Actaully I think Windows Vista recieved quite a bit of worldwide attention in the mainstream press. "

Over the years, this is somewhat true, but seriously? I wouldn't want my product getting the kind of attention that Vista got... ;)
by Evan360 September 9, 2009 5:17 AM PDT
Do iPods really need a camera? I'm very disappointed in my iPhones camera, to the point that I don't even use it.
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by PiCASSiMO September 9, 2009 7:37 AM PDT
I couldn't agree with you more... is it really that necessary for a sub-par camera? It the same with my Nokia 6133 built-in camera... I only use it in emergencies. Otherwise, the picture sucks compared to the F31fd that I carry to and from work.
by September 9, 2009 7:48 AM PDT
Agree, they will have to give me something more then a camera upgrade. I got the touch to avoid ATTs contract, therefore, I already have a phone with a crappy camera, which I never use. Even if the new touch has a camera that a little better, I just dont use the camera that much. In any case, I'm still intrested in what they have to show us.
by Stormspace September 9, 2009 8:15 AM PDT
The only thing that might be better than a crappy cell phone camera, is a crappy iPod camera that's easy to get pictures off of. I currently use a bluetooth connection to get photo's off my phone and with Bluetooth it's a crap shoot whether file transfer will be enabled on your device, so you could end up having to send one photo at a time to your computer.
by QA_Tester September 9, 2009 9:16 AM PDT
Why not just built iPod functionality into the camera?
by sanjayb September 9, 2009 9:28 AM PDT
Anyone that uses a phone camera over a proper digital camera is a loser. :-P
by Dust_Puppy September 9, 2009 9:59 AM PDT
Whoa, iPhones have a digital camera? *flips over his 3G* You mean that's not an ambient light sensor?!?!?!


:D
by Gadget70 September 9, 2009 11:08 AM PDT
Anyone who carries around a proper digital camera all day is a loser.
by sflocal September 9, 2009 11:17 AM PDT
Agreed. People seem to be mistaking a cell-phone camera for a real camera. Sure, there are others phones on the market with better quality cameras but they have to compensate for a lower-quality phone. Phone cameras are meant for the casual impulse shots. If one really cares about photo quality, get a real camera. The iPhone camera is fine for most people.
by sanjayb September 9, 2009 11:58 AM PDT
I have seen quite a few people that use their cell phone as their primary camera and complain that the quality isn't as good. If u want good quality then u need a good quality camera. Simple as that.
by Seaspray0 September 9, 2009 3:37 PM PDT
@sanjayb. I do not dispute that a digital camera takes a much better quality picture than a phone camera. But do you carry around a digital camera with you all day or do you carry around a cell phone all day? Most of the time you can plan ahead and bring a digital camera to events you think you will want pictures but there will come a time you may wish to take a digital picture and the only thing you have is the one on the phone. At that point, it's a personal decision on what you want your phone to have. Nobody is wrong or right when it comes to personal decisions.
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by seven7dust September 9, 2009 5:19 AM PDT
Heres hoping for a better iTunes especially the app management features
right now it's a joke , we need something like categories or folders or something

searching though a mess of homescreens is a pain
Plus using iTunes single windows style to browse the store feels like using some 90s software
Intact of late I've given up on iTunes and am using 148apps.com to find apps ,its so much better
The iTunes store needs a tabbed interface.
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by Perry_Clease September 9, 2009 5:49 AM PDT
Yes, folders or something. I think the that the great success of the App Store took them a bit by surprise and they thought that users would only have one or two pages of apps.
by Perry_Clease September 9, 2009 10:22 AM PDT
The new iTunes software will let you manage apps.
by Seaspray0 September 9, 2009 3:39 PM PDT
Does the itunes software still attempt to install quicktime and safari on installation or updates?
by terminalblue September 9, 2009 5:44 AM PDT
they need to make itunes stop sucking so hard.
Hopefully they wont be ******* and try to kill the classic, and either upgrade it with new hardware instead of ditch it because "who carries their entire music library"
so what if the new devices have cameras, EVERYTHING has a camera in it, so adding another low resolution camera to a media player doesnt really matter (but most people will be amazed)
OH YEAH and a new $20 service pack for the ipod touch...ill be getting my zune update next week for free, chumps.
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by shellcodes_coder September 9, 2009 6:05 AM PDT
Completely agree with you. Zune pass is way better so is zune store. Zune HD will rock and will kill iPot touch
by sandor_f September 9, 2009 6:22 AM PDT
wasn't there a legal reason (SEC) that Apple had to have pay firmware updates for the iPod Touch?

According to the Wall Street Journal (apple charged for macbook updates too):

"If Apple had given the enhancement away free, Apple's auditors could have required it to restate revenue for that period and could possibly have required Apple to start in the future to defer all the revenue from computer sales until all such enhancements are shipped... That would have had a devastating impact on Apple."

I believe Apple is just being very conservative in playing by the rules, as the SEC is already investigating them for other things, they would rather err on the side of caution. I'm not saying it is right or wrong, just saying... US GAAP is the regulation i believe the SEC requires publicly traded companies to follow....
by NPGMBR September 9, 2009 6:26 AM PDT
Ummmm.........actually some of us do carry around our entire collection. My collection totals 5700 right now and is continually growing. Of course the reasons for that are 1) I'm not a fair-weather music lover 2) I only buy tracks I know I love and won't tire of 3) Zune pass makes it EXTREMELY easy to discover new music.

I don't know if you were joking or not when you said that but I tend to listen to my music from the time I step out of my apartment till I come back from work and I almost always listen in shuffle mode so its important for me to have my entire collection. Unfortunately, thats the reason why I'll stick with my Zune 80 instead of upgrading to the Zune HD but I bet a lot of other die-hard music lovers that have iPods would agree that having their entire collection is important to them.
by WinNoMo September 9, 2009 7:24 AM PDT
Zune? What's a Zune? Oh yeah, I think I heard about a Zune HD 32GB for $289.99 coming out soon. Meanwhile, you can get a 32GB iPod touch today for $279. Watch out for that Microsoft tax!
by Acesteph September 9, 2009 7:32 AM PDT
@ shellcodes_coder

What are you drinking this morning? The ZUNE store is better than Itunes? not in a million years, As of January 2009, the Itunes store has sold 6 billion songs,] accounting for 70% of worldwide online digital music sales and making the service the largest legal music retailer. The Itunes store has a much larger following than the Zune store does, that alone will keep the Itunes store going for a very long time. BTW that music you get with Zune pass, is it DRM free? Let face the truth here people, Microsoft is way behind the trend cause if it wasn't then this article would be about some new ms box and not the Apple event.
by Ray180 September 9, 2009 7:58 AM PDT
@ Acesteph
Since when does bigger mean better? Does iTunes sell the most digital music worldwide? Yes. Does that mean it's the best marketplace to buy such content? No! Get you head of the sand (or apple kool-aid) cause the Zune marketplace is a better place to buy music (unless you insist on using the lame AAC format). Also, any idiot knows the music that is downloaded with the Zune Pass is not DRM free (it is rentedl after all), but apparently you don't know the 10 FREE songs per month included with each Zune Pass subscription are most definitely DRM-free and mine to keep forever. Bottom line... No Subscription Service = FAIL!!
by NPGMBR September 9, 2009 9:18 AM PDT
WinNoMo - Wow, that was both creative, insightful and original! You really blew me away with that one.
by ckh1272 September 9, 2009 9:34 AM PDT
"by Ray180 September 9, 2009 7:58 AM PDT
@ Acesteph
Since when does bigger mean better? Does iTunes sell the most digital music worldwide? Yes. Does that mean it's the best marketplace to buy such content? No! Get you head of the sand (or apple kool-aid) cause the Zune marketplace is a better place to buy music (unless you insist on using the lame AAC format). Also, any idiot knows the music that is downloaded with the Zune Pass is not DRM free (it is rentedl after all), but apparently you don't know the 10 FREE songs per month included with each Zune Pass subscription are most definitely DRM-free and mine to keep forever. Bottom line... No Subscription Service = FAIL!!"

@ Ray180--This bigger is better non sense is old and BS. Since you say that iTunes is not better just because it is bigger, I guess the same could apply to that little OS Microsoft makes. Where does that rule not apply. When it suits your point?? That's what I thought.
by Acesteph September 9, 2009 10:08 AM PDT
@ Ray180

Well there are those of us, and a lot at that, who would rather own the music we have not not pay $14.99 a month to do so. Big woop you get ten free songs, Guess what? you still just payed $14.99 for 10 songs! and and bunch of rented music, I can get 15 songs and do what I want with them because they're DRM free!!!! Now I cant speak for everyone, but I simply cannot justify paying a monthly fee for music I may or may not download, Id rather just buy it and keep it for life, unlike the rented MS dribble your allowed to listen to. And on another note your comment didnt prove a thing, we all know that if there was a better place to get music Itunes wouldnt be so big, so get your head out of Bill Gates Ass.
by korbycon1 September 9, 2009 11:20 AM PDT
firstoff, the zune pass is much more logical. it helps users discover tons of new artists, songs, and even genres that they would have otherwise overlooked before.second, you know that every song of yours isnt exactly a favorite. we all get sick of songs after awhile, so why feel like you wasted the dollar on that download. third, a zune pass is 14.99 a month and you keep 10, which means that if you held it up against apples pay per song method, theres a loss of 4.99. not bad when you consider that 4.99 gives you access to millions of songs. lastly for all those that said an fm radio is pointless and why even bother with it as an argument for zunes... did i see that an fm radio is now equipped on nanos? whos "copying" who now?
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by contentcreator--2008 September 9, 2009 6:03 AM PDT
You're just kidding on the "trademark ipod look" right? Or is is possible to trademark "a silhouette against a colored backdrop". But then again, they wanted to trademark the letter "i" (oops, can I use it?)
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by shellcodes_coder September 9, 2009 6:04 AM PDT
This is what Apple are just good at. They should drop selling those vendor locked craps and continue to make iPots and sell music. That's it.
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by Sausagebiscuit September 9, 2009 6:20 AM PDT
Where can I buy an iPot?
by qwerty-berty September 9, 2009 6:42 AM PDT
Dear cnet,

Please filter out these idiots who think it's cool to use expressions such as 'CRAPple', 'Micro$oft' etc. On the rare occasions these posters have anything insightful to say, only those that already subscribe to the exact same partisan opinion actually agree. So how can this be anything other than an exercise in self-validation?

BTW I get 'CRAPple' and 'Micro$oft' - they were quite funny the first thousand times. But please explain to me the intended pun in 'iPot'.
by dwdq2 September 9, 2009 8:30 AM PDT
***? Did none of u saddose realise that that is just probs a spelling mistake. God keep your head on! Drama queen ...
by stickfu September 9, 2009 8:43 AM PDT
So you admit the ipod is better than the Zune
by Perry_Clease September 9, 2009 9:01 AM PDT
"***? Did none of u saddose realise that that is just probs a spelling mistake. God keep your head on! Drama queen ..."

One typo is a spelling mistake, a dozen is not.
by QA_Tester September 9, 2009 9:21 AM PDT
@qwerty-berty

'iPot" is very special pot made fro very special pple like you
by September 9, 2009 10:11 AM PDT
iPot... I'm visualizing a white bong.
by Seaspray0 September 9, 2009 4:11 PM PDT
So if apple made an ipot, what would it be like? 1. The smoke would come in white only. 2. It may not get the apple logo because someone might get hungry and try to eat it. 3. Even with a water cooling mechanism, some areas will get hot enough to burn while operating it. 4. No mutitasking, you will have to manually switch between users. 5. People who use it will have a happy euphoric feeling, sometimes to the point of giggling or laughing and claim it's the best thing they've ever used.

awww, come on, have a sense of humor!
by shellcodes_coder September 10, 2009 1:30 AM PDT
Yes, it's iPot aka crappod.
by DJOmega6 September 9, 2009 6:19 AM PDT
Wow, Microsoft fanboys are up early this morning.
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by BryanCopeland September 9, 2009 6:35 AM PDT
Makes me nauseous too...

---- Proud Apple FanBoy ----
by Random_Walk September 9, 2009 6:42 AM PDT
...they don't have much else left, and certainly nothing (beyond Windows 7) to hope for.
by Perry_Clease September 9, 2009 7:54 AM PDT
No, they are going to bed late.
by Jamasama September 9, 2009 10:53 AM PDT
@Random_Walk:

Well no, Windows 8 and Zune HD.

Same way that Apple fanboys can hope for another non-free service pack.
by wanorris September 9, 2009 11:13 AM PDT
@RandomWalk,

Who, indeed, could get excited about forthcoming releases of Windows, Office, gesture-driven XBox, Server 2008 R2, Visual Studio, Sql Server, and nearly every other product Microsoft releases? After all, the past versions have been so entirely unworthy of notice that no one uses them any more.

Oh, wait.
by kojacked September 9, 2009 12:18 PM PDT
LOL!

wanorris (and reality) 1 Microsoft haters 0
by Random_Walk September 9, 2009 12:19 PM PDT
Let's see...

* Windows 7 (covered that)
* Office 2k10 (now with an even bigger screen-sucking ribbon!)
* "gesture-driven XBox" (you mean it'll finally get something like what the Wii has had all this time now? Hrm, wonder how much that's gonna cost you to get?)
* Server 2008 R2 (you mean they're finally going to fix the numerous bugs that have kept the masses from bothering with it all this time, starting with KMS fer frig's sake?)
* Visual Studio (oh, boy - so that's why nobody has really bothered with any version after 2005?)
* Sql Server (yeah, that's gonna excite the masses, yes sir! Oh, wait... nobody really cares about it outside of the admins who implement the crap that requires it.

Long story short - I have and use a toilet, but I honestly don't get all that excited about all the new crapper models coming out every year, either. ;)


I'm kinda surprised you didn't start crowing about SharePoint and, well, the non-selling Zune HD thingy your buddy was slobbering over.

'course, maybe you could tell me which of any of these products outside of Windows 7 got coverage on CNN and the like... Oh, wait - pretty much none of them outside of Windows 7. ;)

@ Perry:

Kinda hard to tell with them sometimes - after all, it takes awhile for the morning light to reach into a basement, and I'm sure their mothers have long since given up on kicking them out of bed and demanding they get jobs...
by Jamasama September 9, 2009 12:38 PM PDT
"the non-selling Zune HD thingy your buddy was slobbering over."

Funny that. How longs it been out? Oh wait, it's not out yet.

Appalling, I know. Not even out yet and it hasn't sold any.
by Random_Walk September 9, 2009 2:01 PM PDT
...jusging by its predecessors, I believe my statement was correct - "non-selling" about describes it not only now, but then. ;)
by Jamasama September 9, 2009 2:48 PM PDT
It never had a 'then', this is the first Zune with HD capabilities. Hence the first Zune HD.

I'll agree with you though, the original Zunes never did any well. My main reason for saying that, they never even reached the UK. And they'll also have a hard time starting over here, cause no ones really heard of them.

It'll be interesting to see how they do. I don't think they'll do nearly as good as the iPods. Ok maybe that's guaranteed. Congrats to Apple, they have done an awesome job with them.
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by Eric Mason September 9, 2009 6:29 AM PDT
I want an iPot too... I hear iPots are sooo much better than iPods.
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by gowrisankark September 9, 2009 6:33 AM PDT
So excited! Couldn't wait for the event :)
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by prayman September 9, 2009 6:35 AM PDT
Apple can't make everyone happy can they? Why can't they just roll out an iTouch that has like "everything" so that, we, average everyday consumer can carry one/two devices around at all times. I carry my iPhone around because I have a phone/music player/camera (not the best of quality but it still works)/Nike Plus/Apps/Games/GPS/WiFi...and what else? Oh yeah, give us a better camera, FM, smoke detector, carbon monoxide detector, pepperspray? Hm.... What else would you like them to put inside of a device like iTouch?

I'm not trying to step on anyone's toes here...just courious about what they have in store today. Like it or not, you don't have to buy it if you don't like it. It's just a device.
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by stickfu September 9, 2009 8:45 AM PDT
just turn the thing into a tricorder
by heygeo September 10, 2009 12:03 AM PDT
because some of us dont want to have to pay for a data plan to listen to music or spray Randomwalk with pepper spray....
by WoodrowCall September 9, 2009 6:52 AM PDT
I'm waiting to see if they are going to match up the touch with the zune hd. I have a touch right now, but I'm going to get another one, either 16 or 32 gigs. Right now, the zune hd is a better price, but I'm waiting to see if the touch is going to go down to match it. Also, it might seem like a small point, but the hd output on the zune hd is looking like a game-changer to me. I've been wanting an easy way to play videos from my pc on my flatscreen, and connecting the tv to an mp3 player dock is sounding like a perfect solution.
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by WinNoMo September 9, 2009 7:44 AM PDT
http://sanjose.bizjournals.com/sanjose/stories/2009/09/07/daily23.html?ana=yfcpc
by sanjayb September 9, 2009 9:36 AM PDT
I would like to see an OLED screen and the ability to watch HD podcasts like CNET's on the player.
by ducttape36 September 9, 2009 11:19 AM PDT
rumors are rumors. those prices were off by a few bucks. its 199 for the 8, 299 for the 32, 399 for 64. just a tad more expensive that the zune hd, with no comparable 16gb model.
by gnesterenko September 9, 2009 6:56 AM PDT
Well while I would LOVE to try another mp3 Player - I am a victim of the Apple lock in strategy. INvested over $300 in an iPod controller/dock head-unit for my car (it is very very nice - bypasses the ipods internal shoddy Digital to Analog converter and instead does it onboard using much higher quality parts). So with that in mind, while the head unit does control other USB devices, its iPod interface is near perfect and true to the actual ipod interface - and in a moving vehicle, an easy to navigate UI is paramount as you don't want to take your eyes off the road any more then is necessary. So with that in mind, its iPod only for me. I just hope the up the nano to 32gb. I'd go for the classic again, but platter drives and my lifestyle (jogging, biking, snowboarding) don't go together well. Its gotta be small, durable and flash.

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by Chrisnonstop September 9, 2009 7:07 AM PDT
Yea, the only thing I care about is what the tablet is going to be like.

I don't need an ipod...got an iphone.
Don't care about what itunes looks likes as long as i can get some music and some apps off of it.
Let me know when I can tether my iphone.
Let me know when I can send files via bluetooth.

Did I forget anything that actually matters? Everything else is just marketing fluff.
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by Seaspray0 September 9, 2009 4:16 PM PDT
"Yea, the only thing I care about is what the tablet is going to be like."

The only thing known so far is the estimated size so it will stick out of your pocket like that dell pictured above.
by forlornconsumer September 9, 2009 7:44 AM PDT
Hopefully one of the announcements is that they are leaving there exclusive deal with AT&T and just selling the iphone.
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by Dust_Puppy September 9, 2009 7:57 AM PDT
Could someone siteban that ebuying thing?
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by dkarageo September 9, 2009 7:58 AM PDT
Cnet, do better on your spam troll filter. This ebuyings moron is annoying.
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by gnesterenko September 9, 2009 8:07 AM PDT
RE the ebuying nonsense, just click the yellow exclamation marker next to each one of his posts and report for spam. Done.
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by jarkoet September 9, 2009 8:17 AM PDT
Check out the link CNN posted regarding the upcoming price changes for Ipods.
http://brainstormtech.blogs.fortune.cnn.com/2009/09/09/apple-slashes-ipod-prices-up-to-120/
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by snicka12 September 9, 2009 8:18 AM PDT
i wonder what steve is going to wear...and i wonder what the announcement is going to be
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by Dust_Puppy September 9, 2009 9:19 AM PDT
A black turtle neck and a Beatles mop-top.
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