August 5, 2009 12:01 PM PDT

Apple censors a dictionary app

by Erica Ogg
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This is just getting ridiculous.

John Gruber at Daringfireball.net points to the latest example of an iPhone application being stymied by Apple's App Store approval process. In this case, it's a dictionary app called Ninjawords (so called because ninjas are "smart, accurate, and really fast") that was rejected three times over the course of two months, mostly because "objectionable" words could be looked up and found in the dictionary's search function, Gruber reported.

It's a new version of an old story, but one that almost seems like a parody of the byzantine process of getting an app past the guardians of the App store. Here's how it went down, according to Matchstick software's Phil Crosby, one of the developers of Ninjawords, as told to John Gruber.

The first version, submitted May 13, was rejected because it crashed when run on the iPhone 3.0 OS beta. Crosby said it was fixed and resubmitted before being rejected again weeks later because it contained vulgar language, that could "be found objectionable by iPhone or iPod Touch users."

It's been established that Apple is squeamish when it comes to so-called "objectionable" content. Earlier this year an e-book app was rejected because it carried a link to "The Kama Sutra," and CNET's own David Carnoy wrote a book called "Knife Music," whose electronic version was initially rejected from the App Store for containing a scene with graphic language.

But the Ninjawords app isn't like an e-book where you have to read the whole thing to get your money's worth. This is a dictionary, a reference guide, where one has to actually look up the word in question to see it and be possibly offended by it.

Matchstick apparently played ball and tried to remove as many offensive words as it could, according to Crosby. When it submitted the application again--this time a whole new app, thus losing its place in the approval line--it was again rebuffed because more words deemed inappropriate by App Store screeners were discovered by looking them up.

Eventually the application was approved, but scrubbed clean of objectionable words and even then it was slapped with a 17+ rating, which will get filtered out by OS 3.0's parental controls. Essentially, the message from Apple, or at least an overzealous App Store approval team, is that iPhone or iPod Touch owners over 17 years old need to be told what kind of words they're allowed to look up on their Apple device.

Of course, the App Store is Apple's domain, and it can dictate what kind of content it wants to sell. But the inconsistent way in which the rules are applied--see here, here, here, and here, for starters--is bordering on the surreal.

Erica Ogg is a CNET News reporter who covers Apple, HP, Dell, and other PC makers, as well as the consumer electronics industry. She's also one of the hosts of CNET News' Daily Podcast. In her non-work life, she's a history geek, a loyal Dodgers fan, and a mac-and-cheese connoisseur. E-mail Erica.
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by dpeacock1 August 5, 2009 12:39 PM PDT
slow news day
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by bigmc6000 August 6, 2009 10:23 AM PDT
http://daringfireball.net/2009/08/phil_schiller_app_store

Think you can update the article Ogg - I figured the developer was just looking for a headline (and it worked, obviously)
by bigmc6000 August 6, 2009 11:31 AM PDT
over and hour and a half and still nothing but you'll keep it on the main page. Journalistic integrity be d@mned!
by bigmc6000 August 6, 2009 12:03 PM PDT
well hey, they finally took it off the main page - any change you'll update or do you just pull it from the main page instead?
by FreddieT August 5, 2009 12:49 PM PDT
A free alternative that contains most, if not all, "objectionable" words.

http://i.word.com
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by TyroneJackkson August 5, 2009 12:52 PM PDT
Has Apple rejected Bible applications yet? They should if they apply the same rules to those applications as they have to Ninjawords. The Bible, for those of you who have never read it, is shock full of sex & violence and explicit material.
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by LordActon August 6, 2009 8:30 AM PDT
Sounds like you could use the app yourself. You want "chock-full", as in filling something up so full that you need a chock to wedge the contents in place.

(http://dictionary.reference.com/cite.html?qh=chock-full&ia=luna)
by LordActon August 6, 2009 8:30 AM PDT
Sounds like you could use the app yourself. You want "chock-full", as in filling something up so full that you need a chock to wedge the contents in place.

(http://dictionary.reference.com/cite.html?qh=chock-full&ia=luna)
by thegreenmenace August 5, 2009 12:56 PM PDT
Meanwhile over devs for Palm are competing over google voice apps; precentral.net/homebrew-apps/gdial-pro-google-voice-app
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by BeatleMegaFan August 5, 2009 12:56 PM PDT
The App Store approval process has become just pitiful these days. A dictionary takes months to get through the doors like this, but those Hot Girls apps that featured nude images slipped through with out any trouble to begin with? Somebody needs to be fired in Cupertino.

-BMF
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by Ed0719 August 5, 2009 1:03 PM PDT
It becomes more and more clear to me that I chose wisely when I chose NOT to purchase anything Apple.
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by scott2400 August 5, 2009 1:08 PM PDT
Gimme a break.

It is clear by your comment that you are anything BUT wise...
by ywkhgqo August 6, 2009 9:15 AM PDT
how? he makes a god point. Apple is essentially performing censorship and deciding FOR iphone/ipod touch users what it is appropriate.
by bigmc6000 August 6, 2009 9:57 AM PDT
No, they are deciding what is appropriate for them to sell and market - it's a business decision - end of story. (shocking, Apple, a business, making a business based decision? CRAZY!!!)
by renGek August 6, 2009 11:01 AM PDT
by ywkhgqo August 6, 2009 9:15 AM PDT
how? he makes a god point. Apple is essentially performing censorship and deciding FOR iphone/ipod touch users what it is appropriate.
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yup just like walmart they are.
by jag0 August 5, 2009 1:07 PM PDT
I wonder how long until an Apple drone pops in to defend this...
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by scott2400 August 5, 2009 1:11 PM PDT
Aplle sux, Aplle sux, (*crash*)(*reboot*), Aplle sux, Apll..(*crash*), *sigh*

Bing ZuneVista
by make_or_break August 5, 2009 11:12 PM PDT
Gee Scottie boy, a bit touchy are you? After all, why should even concern yourself with these postings, what with Apple protecting and coddling you from all those bad, BAD things in the world, eh? Squeaking clean and puritanically white, that's what the idyllic world is supposed to be all about, right?

That said, I never thought I'd see the day that Apple's own actions would show themselves as being *PC*. Gee, and all this time they've been telling us they were MAC.

(snicker)
by Perry_Clease August 5, 2009 1:15 PM PDT
As an Apple Fan Man I think that rejecting the app based upon objectionable words is absurd. I would use stronger language to describe my thoughts on this matter, but it would violate CNET's terms of use.
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by Dalkorian August 6, 2009 9:54 AM PDT
hehe - is that irony?
;-)
by bb1961 August 5, 2009 1:19 PM PDT
I've been looking at getting an iPhone. Forget it. I'm not going through all this for a freakin' pda. I'll just stick with my blackberry. I don't care for windows, but at least Microsoft isn't telling me what I can or can't put on my computer. Apple you just lost me. I'll stop using my shuffle and go back to my sansa player. I don't need, nor do I appreciate censors. Why can't Mommy and Daddy supervise their kids on what they upload/download ?
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by sodapop2k9 August 5, 2009 1:20 PM PDT
Um - why didn't you publish a list of the omitted words?
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by Raabscuttle August 5, 2009 1:20 PM PDT
iAs iAn iApple iNonfan iI iCouldn't iCare iAny iLess... iThen iWhy iAm iI iReading iThis iDribble?
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by garykpdx August 5, 2009 1:26 PM PDT
Seems to me they should reject the new Tom Tom app, as it can presumably be used to find offensive adult entertainment businesses and, gasp, sellers of porn or trashy lingerie.
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by MrPlow123 August 5, 2009 1:53 PM PDT
You know, you are right. I should return my Tom Tom and sue them for including that content in my go730. Tom Tom should go through and remove every address for avery porn shop in the USA. Give me a break Apple, get real.
by bugma302 August 6, 2009 5:47 AM PDT
I hope to God they don't have any maps applications that can find this place.

http://maps.google.co.uk/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&geocode=&q=*****&sll=53.800651,-4.064941&sspn=13.544511,39.418945&ie=UTF8&ll=59.101565,-3.279419&spn=0.022963,0.07699&z=14&iwloc=A
by lkrupp August 5, 2009 1:50 PM PDT
I challenge Erica Ogg to post the objectionable words right here, right now, on C|net. Let's see if the "journalist" who is criticizing Apple will be censored by her own editor and C|net. These very C|net forums censor objectionable language themselves. Just try posting one of George Carlin's seven words you can't say on television (and still can't) in this thread and see what happens.

"Censorship" is one of those political buzz words that gets attention. People and organizations "censor" themselves and others all the time for various reasons. This article's author is a hypocrite and so are the posters who vilify Apple for its app store policies.
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by elitewillie August 5, 2009 2:05 PM PDT
You sir are a tool. I love Apple too, even used to work for them, but this is over the line. A lot of the things they have been doing with the whole app store has been retarded. Kinda one of the reasons I left, even then they were doing some shady stuff in the stores.
by lkrupp August 5, 2009 2:22 PM PDT
elitewillie,

I notice you were quick to call me names but you seem reluctant to address my challenge to the author of this article. If the words that were removed from the app and the 17+ rating are so offensive to you lets see some courage on your part. Reply with some of the words and lets see if the C|net filter lets them through. Then I might reconsider your "over the line" comment. Until then you're just as much a hypocrite as the author.
by jtfan2004 August 5, 2009 6:18 PM PDT
Why challenge the author to list the words? It was APPLE that rejected the app based on the words.

Why don't you challenge APPLE to list the words that THEY found offensive? It's not like Erica was in Cupertino saying "Rejected" to the app. It was Apple. You call the folks here hypocrites because they won't list the words that APPLE (not CNET) found objectionable? Please, spare us the "Ohhh, you broke my little iPhone's itty bitty heart" song and dance.

With that having been said, Apple does have the right to do what it wants with the App store that it owns. Apple just needs to keep in mind that if the folks who buy their products aren't happy, eventually they'll move on to others who will make them so.
by TotallyMadeUpName August 5, 2009 7:15 PM PDT
lkrupp,
It's a DICTIONARY for crying out loud!! How can you say certain words aren't allowed in a dictionary? It's not hypocritical at all for CNET to have an editorial policy that prohibits certain words but to also be critical of someone who censors a DICTIONARY!! If it were labeled a kids dictionary, that would be one thing. Or an electronics dictionary, etc.

So what if "objectionable" words can be looked up. Of course they can, if first tell the dictionary what those words are so it can look them up, because IT'S A DICTIONARY.

It's also not like the software goes, "Hey, you look like a nice person. Want to know what f**k means?".

Come on.
by markosph August 6, 2009 6:52 AM PDT
jtfan... words like ****, ass and so on... the same words you find in the Dictionary.com app. I was upset about GV Mobile but its on Cydia.
by albertsoler August 5, 2009 2:09 PM PDT
Can we all collectively say: I DON'T CARE!!!
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by tektaktyks August 5, 2009 2:34 PM PDT
apple are thieves.im sick and tired of hearing about that nazi company.
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by ckh1272 August 6, 2009 2:47 AM PDT
Nazi Company?? I didn't realize that Apple hated Jewish people so much. Care to elaborate?? Oh, if you don't like hearing about it then stop reading and posting about it. I think too many people here just thrive on constant drama.
by ywkhgqo August 6, 2009 9:19 AM PDT
ckh, its obvious to everyone he didn't mean apple hates jewish people. Nazi has become synonymous with a locked down, no freedom system.
by Dalkorian August 6, 2009 10:00 AM PDT
OK ywkhgqo, you were able to deflect that particular obnoxious idiotic remark. Now get busy on the libelous charge of theft.

Don't you love defending obvious trolls?
by ywkhgqo August 6, 2009 11:48 AM PDT
i wasn't defending the troll so much as pointing out to CKH that some people shouldn't take things so literally
by tektaktyks August 8, 2009 8:16 PM PDT
ywkhgqo explained it to those who r too slow,i just stated what was on my mind,how is is trollin'?
by tektaktyks August 8, 2009 8:17 PM PDT
ywkhgqo explained it to those who r too slow,i just stated what was on my mind,how is is trollin'? oh and i spoke the truth.
by Perry_Clease August 5, 2009 2:44 PM PDT
I have a Wordbook dictionary app on my iPhone, I just did a quick check. It did not list several "objectionable" words, but had some others.

When I looked up the "S" word synonym for feces it suggested the British spelling, ending in "e". When I chose it said that it was a spelling variation of the USA spelling. It had the USA spelling as link, but when I clicked on it I got a message that there was no definition for that word in the dictionary. It also had links to several slang terms for feces, but when clicked it the app just reloaded the page with the British spelling. Furthermore when I typed in the four letter "S" word it suggested ****list and ****less, but would not load any definitions for them.

It listed and defined the 3 letter "T" word for breast.

Disclaimer: I am not a prude about typing out these words, but I am complying with CNET's terms of use.
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by bigmc6000 August 6, 2009 10:02 AM PDT
That's kind of my been my curiosity - many other dictionary apps haven't been rejected and no list of words have been presented by the ninja himself so we're left with his angry posting and nothing else to go by. Umm, it's got to be clear to any level headed person that if dozens of dictionary apps have been approved and none of them have had the limits supposedly placed on the ninja dictionary that maybe, just maybe, the programmer is hoping for some free press? Crossed anyone's mind??
by Dalkorian August 6, 2009 10:04 AM PDT
This is just getting ridiculous.

Essentially, the message from CNET, or at least an overzealous Erica Ogg, is that CNET posters need to be told what kind of words they're allowed to use.

... is bordering on the surreal.

LOL!
by stepyourgameup August 5, 2009 2:52 PM PDT
You know what's funny? I was the first post here and I said the word "dild****s" and CNET erased my post. Talk about the pot calling the kettle black.
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by ozoneocean August 5, 2009 2:53 PM PDT
I find the fact they they would censor a dictionary highly offensive. Seriously. That's way beyond the pale.
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by jbhjbh August 5, 2009 2:59 PM PDT
The Apple Taliban strikes again
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by Dalkorian August 6, 2009 10:05 AM PDT
Did someone sneak into your house at night and steal your clue? If not, how did you end up so clueless?
by ywkhgqo August 6, 2009 11:49 AM PDT
booo, dalkorian, just boooooo
by C0mmanderB0nd August 5, 2009 3:00 PM PDT
I fail to see how they couldn't just make a ninja dictionary website if "ninja" words are so important to them.

And how many more shameless plugs can Knife music get......
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