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March 31, 2009 7:02 AM PDT

Analyst: 32GB iPhone could debut in June

by Dawn Kawamoto

Updated at 9:15 a.m. PDT with comments from analyst Daniel Amir.

Apple is expected to begin production on a high-end iPhone with 32GB of flash memory and a low-end 3G version this spring, according to a research report released Tuesday by Lazard Capital Markets analyst.

Production is anticipated to begin in April and ramp up in May, and the new phones could be announced in June, Daniel Amir, a Lazard Capital Markets analyst, said in his report.

He noted, however, that the low-end version may only be available in the fast-growing, emerging markets of Brazil, Russia, India, and China, while the high-end version is expected to make its way to North America and Europe.

(Credit: Apple)

The low-end version is expected to run on a 3G network, rather than on Wi-Fi, while the high-end version is anticipated to double its storage capacity from 16GB to 32GB of NAND flash memory and feature improvements to its camera, Amir noted in his report, citing checks with Apple's iPhone channel partners.

Meanwhile, Amir predicts, iPhone unit shipments for the first and second quarters could be higher than Wall Street's current forecast.

He expects iPhone shipments to come in around 3.8 million to 4 million in the first quarter, while Wall Street is anticipating 3 million to 3.5 million units.

In the second quarter, iPhone shipments could reach 7 million to 8 million units, a threefold to fourfold increase over last year's second quarter performance, he asserts. Apple's new iPhones are expected to account for about 3 million of these figures, Amir said. Wall Street, meanwhile, is expecting Apple to ship 6.5 million to 7 million iPhones in the second quarter.

Apple was not immediately available for comment.

Reports of an Apple flash-memory buying binge surfaced in February, with one analyst from Think Equity Partners noting that Apple had virtually cleaned out one large supplier and was hitting up two others for more flash memory.

Amir told CNET New that the February rise stemmed from increased production for the iPhones that shipped in March. In order to meet its needs for a 32GB iPhone, Apple will hit up its suppliers up toward the end of next month, he said.

Amir noted in his research report:

About 20 percent of all NAND capacity goes to Apple, and its impact on the NAND market should not be underestimated...

NAND prices should move up further off the Apple orders. We believe that with the new iPhone design which could include 32GB NAND, Apple is setting the stage for another potentially big flash order starting in April. With the potential for 3 million units to be shipped in 2Q, we believe the magnitude of such an order could enable prices of NAND components to move up an additional 20 percent in the (first half) of 2Q.

Dawn Kawamoto covers enterprise security and financial news relating to technology for CNET News. E-mail Dawn.
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by pintos-n-cheese March 31, 2009 7:41 AM PDT
A better camera better be able to do video!

A better improvement would be opening to other carriers and/or AT&T allowing more flexible data/voice plans instead of the single rob-every-last-penny-from-your-couch-cushions policy. Can they at least do family plans so the second line doesn't double your bill? How about an iPhone for me and an iPhone for my wife at $10 for the 2nd line?
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by marlacostini March 31, 2009 8:05 AM PDT
why characterize them as thieves? they wish to make a profit by selling you unlimited data service that may be used by two separate people at any given time. it may be a good idea for customer retention or for competitive reasons to offer you a better rate when you add more users, but is it stealing if they don't? we are always welcome to start our own network, seek out such marketing partnerships, and take our own profit risks. then we would have to make the same decisions based on payroll, ad costs, churn, tech investment, competition, spectrum costs, etc... I don't mean this post to be critical of you; I pose this as a rhetorical question to consider by consumers that hold their suppliers of products and services to sometimes unusually high expecations. if the expectations are not met, we often feel like we are being cheated, but are we?
by pjhenry1216 March 31, 2009 10:14 AM PDT
@marlacostini: while i agree with you in principle, I have to laugh at your idea that we are welcome to start our own network. Even Google barely has enough money to get into the game. Don't kid yourself and think that its open competition in the carrier markets.
by March 31, 2009 10:39 AM PDT
@pjhenry1216 actually, it is that easy to start a telco company. (I am in the process of looking into now). look at what MetroPCS did. Started in texas with a few million dollars in investments from private equity, moved to larger investments after securing sub-contracts and have grown into a network that now serves over 300 cities. they've made the decision to price their data plans according to their risk and their target market usage expectations. it just sounds like you have neither the legs nor the understanding of how this is done. like any successful business, it takes time. as @marlacostini pointed out, they aren't stealing if the subscr. chooses to engage in the contract.
by pintos-n-cheese March 31, 2009 11:52 AM PDT
I don't mind the rhtorical question.

Why characterize them as thieves? Because it is an effective way for me to express my personal disdain for the high cost of iPhone ownership which prevents me from owning one. So in short, it is simply a manner or matter of expression, Hence, I don't really think AT&T are thieves. But is my disdain directed more towards the policy or the makers of the policy?

It'd just be nice if the finer things in life were more affordable. And I stated my case above with the strong liklihood that there are many others in my position, therefore and furthermore, the case could be reasonably argued that AT&T would actually gain more profit by lowering its plan costs thereby enabling many more people onboard!
by seven7dust March 31, 2009 8:00 AM PDT
I hope they bump it up to 64 GB actually
memory can never be too much
but one thing I've learned when it comes to analysts is that they are clueless when it comes to Apple !
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by FearNo1 March 31, 2009 9:02 AM PDT
Why not just keep it at 16GB but also support microSD. That way maybe iphone could get a better battery. IMHO the battery life is the biggest problem with iphone.
by kelmon March 31, 2009 8:44 AM PDT
The new iPhone will ship with 32GB memory? Well, there's a news flash from the "No ****, Sherlock" school of analysis. Honestly, why anyone pays these "analysts" to produce insight that anyone could have predicted is beyond me.
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by bryanpa March 31, 2009 9:57 AM PDT
Exactly. In other news, the sun is hot and the sky is blue...
by myles taylor March 31, 2009 10:07 AM PDT
Well I think they need to create jobs in a poor economy, so they just hire people to spew hot air. Of course, this is one of the main contributers to global warming.......
by srhoda March 31, 2009 5:35 PM PDT
If you recall they spewed this same crap last year about 32GB model and there was no 32 GB model. Why not post something until you have facts rather than speculation.

Well... There is good chance there is going to be a 1 TB iPhone this summer!
by Zaunto March 31, 2009 10:25 AM PDT
Blah Blah Blah,

Is the price comping down to $99 or less (free)? Is there going to be a physical keyboard rather than virtual? Will the battery be replaceable? Will it have a mini-SD Card slot? Will the camera be higher resolution and do video? Will the web browser finally support flash and java? If the answer to any of these is still no, then the iPhone still will not do what my free Palm Centro already does. I'm not going to spend more money to get less functionality with a cool looking device and the fruit logo. Sorry, but I'm not a member of the "me too" club of followers.
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by March 31, 2009 10:41 AM PDT
yes, it's called the Palm Pre (except w/o the mSD slot).
by Vegaman_Dan March 31, 2009 10:34 AM PDT
This is the reason why I haven't bought an iPhone yet even though my cell contract is up. I don't want to by a new phone now only to have it updated with more capacity / cheaper price right after I buy it. I already did that with the iPod Touch and Apple ended up with $100 more of my money and I had a device that didn't have the features the current model has.

So I wait.
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by The_happy_switcher March 31, 2009 11:53 AM PDT
...and wait and wait because you are too stupid to realize that technology advances by its own calendar--not yours.
by Vegaman_Dan March 31, 2009 2:52 PM PDT
@AppleRocks1963:

You're right, technology advances by its own rules. But a person who shells out $500 for a device only to have it drop $100 and increase features a day later might feel a bit...oh, I don't know, stiffed? When Apple did that to to iPhone 2.0 buyers, they gave those buyers a $100 credit at the Apple store. Touch owners who got similarly burned? Nothing. Apple has continously treated Touch owners like second class citizens.

Argue that.
by The_happy_switcher March 31, 2009 3:44 PM PDT
By your logic no one would ever upgrade--unless the company suddenly goes of out of business and you now own the last product they will ever make. I know you wish that would happen with Apple and are still holding up hope that Santa will bring you that Zune phone, but it ain't gonna happen.
by totocalimero March 31, 2009 10:43 AM PDT
A nice feature would be to be able to partition the disk inside the iPhone to use a part of it as a regular USB drive for a laptop and keep the rest for iPhone/iPod usage. Add to this some form of encryption to protect the data and you would have a portable hard drive in your phone.
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by Synthmeister March 31, 2009 12:54 PM PDT
Some of this can already be done wirelessly with an App called "Air Sharing" and it looks like OS 3. 0 will make this kind of thing easier.
by RandyShack March 31, 2009 1:21 PM PDT
Older model iPods do just that, when you connect 'em up, they show up on your desktop as a disk device. My 30 gig 3G iPod does that for example. I'm talking Mac OS, your mileage may vary if you use something else. That feature seems to have gone the way of firewire sync and charge on iPods, sadly.
by faceless128 March 31, 2009 10:54 AM PDT
"The low-end version is expected to run on a 3G network, rather than on Wi-Fi"

wait, what? the current iphone models already use 3G.

and for Zaunto, of course there won't be a KB, replaceable battery or SD slot, that's not what apple is about.

I still don't get why it doesn't record video, there are 3rd party apps that can do it...
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by RandyShack March 31, 2009 1:14 PM PDT
I take that to mean 3G only. Current 'Phones have both. Taking out wireless means one less radio in there, a good way to cut costs.

Who needs a real keyboard anyhow? That would turn the form factor into a behemoth. As for a replaceable battery, everyone I know who has a cell phone with a dead battery just gets a new one since the cost of a replacement goes a long way toward a new phone. In any event, there are user-installable battery kits for iPods out there and once iPhones have been in the field long enough to need it, someone will market such a thing.
by Constable Odo March 31, 2009 11:01 AM PDT
I'm for micro-SD, but it seems unlikely to ever find it's way into an Apple product. Certainly as WIMAX grows, there'll be less need for on-board memory. All your storage needs will be available in the cloud. And I also think that the iPhone's weakest link is it's battery. The iPhone is a device that begs to be used as often as possible and it's putting impossible demands on it's small battery.
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by elllroy March 31, 2009 11:06 AM PDT
these analysts don't even know the basic principles on which apple is doing business since the stone age:
1. they don't sell different versions of their products in different countries (that's what nokia would do alas a stupid strategy)
2. the don't cut features in a new model (so wifi will be in every model of course)
3. they usually don't sell an old model when a new model comes out (the old macbook is the only exception to that rule in the last years)

how come someone is paying these people? they are eighter stating the obvious or making an "analysis" that shows that they have no idea what they are talking about. and forget about these "channel checks" and "channel partners" they are not existing. and if he really knows bob working at marketing at att, one thing is for sure: apple will not tell bob what it's plans are.

this analyst has no insight whatsoever so how come cnet or any news outlet is giving them a forum. please spare is this bs from now on.
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by Mark_Anderson April 1, 2009 8:26 AM PDT
Nokia sell different variants of products in different countries because the networks are different and operator restrictions can also come into play. I'd also point out Apple are having these isues with the iPhone's release in China.

You should really understand a company's strategy - particularly when that company has over half the entire market - before calling it stupid.
by marin-jim March 31, 2009 11:31 AM PDT
This is terrible news that a wi-fi version won't be offered as that is what was rumored previously and what I've been waiting for. I only need wi-fi and refuse to be forced into a 3G commitment I neither want or need. Looks like I'll be shopping for different smartphone that has wi-fi. Sure is odd that the iphone is the only AT&T handset that requires a data plan.
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by Synthmeister March 31, 2009 12:59 PM PDT
I would be extremely surprised if Apple omits wifi from any version of the iPhone. Too many of their apps and features really depend on wifi such as the Front Row/AppleTV remote program.
by DarkHawke April 1, 2009 4:54 AM PDT
So go get an ITouch and get Skype for it. Wi-Fi only, no 3G, no AT&T. Done and done.
by steel36 March 31, 2009 11:50 AM PDT
marin-jim, I'm w/ you. i don't need to pay the extra monthly charges for data when wi-fi is just fine w/ me. also been waiting for them to jump to Verizon, cause I won't jump to ATT. returned the Omnia because VZN required a data plan. last week i solved my own problem. bought a samsung i760 and loaded Ifonz, an ipod-style interface, along w/ a few apps: dialers, contact mods, etc. Loving it. Got wi-fi and an Iphone feel w/o the data plan or poor att service. Now, if only the Pre or G2 will hurry up.
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by libertyforall1776 March 31, 2009 12:26 PM PDT
The customer should be able to choose what level of data you want -- GPRS, EDGE, HSDPA, HSUPA, LTE -- support them all, and give us a choice at different price levels...
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by danoshapes March 31, 2009 3:59 PM PDT
pintos-n-cheese - If the cost of Iphone is too much for to be able to own one...Than don?t get one...Just because it cost too much that does not mean the company making it is robbing people or steeling. I have purchased 2 and have the full data plan and I dont feel cheated, becuase I am entering into the purchase knowing what I am paying. The definition of robbing and steeling would mean Apple and ATT would be forcing you to buy one. If you don?t like the fact you can?t buy it, make more money. A company is going to charge for their products/services what the market will bare. Basically meaning they will charge all they can until it hurts their bottom line...THAT IS BUSINES, Welcome to the real world. Iphone is one of the most successful products in of our time, Apple and ATT is doing exactly what their stock holders expect them to do....Turn a profit!
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by darkpoet25 April 1, 2009 11:17 AM PDT
I agree 100%. I knew what I was getting into when I got my 8GB 3G. I knew that it didn't have certain features that other phones had. But I played around with demo phones and looked at more info on here before I got mine. As the saying goes, patience is a virtue, as with the 3.0 OS update coming out in the next 2-3 months those features will be available. Such as copy/paste, mms, etc. Not sure if the 32GB will be coming or not, but if it does I may think about doing an upgrade, as the extra storage would come in handy. I can put all the movies and tv shows I buy on one device. Pintos-n-cheese, if the iPhone is too much for you, then look into getting the Nokia E71x coming out in a week or so.
by CEB1970 March 31, 2009 4:57 PM PDT
Could we care less?
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by reol9 March 31, 2009 8:25 PM PDT
You could...
by cabrillo24 April 1, 2009 4:30 AM PDT
I'll jump on board, my 16GB iPhone is almost filled up. An SD card slot would be nice, especially to work on documents on the go (waiting for that app), but if it sacrifices battery life then it's a no go for me.
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by planblove April 1, 2009 7:48 AM PDT
Wake me when they've got at least 60gb...
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by AppleSuxLeo April 2, 2009 8:11 PM PDT
With Microsoft`s Sync system , you don`t need an iPod. 32GB cards are like $40 on sale at Fry`s.
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