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January 29, 2009 11:39 AM PST

Apple pulls MacBook graphics update

by Tom Krazit
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A software update meant to fix some issues with graphics on the new MacBooks has been removed by Apple.

(Credit: CNET)

Correction, 11:48 a.m. PST: This story misstated when the Apple notebooks were redesigned. It was October 2008.

Apple has withdrawn a software update that was supposed to help MacBook owners deal with graphics issues, but that apparently failed to solve many of the problems.

AppleInsider spotted the disappearance of the update on Wednesday, after Apple had released it on Monday. The Web page that hosted the update has been removed from Apple's site, but a copy was available in Google's cache; missing the pertinent file, of course.

As AppleInsider notes, it's not clear why Apple pulled the update after just two days. It was designed to fix issues with flickering displays raised by some MacBook owners with the use of external monitors over the miniDVI ports on the new MacBooks. A scan of Apple's discussion boards shows that the update didn't seem to fix the problem for everyone and in some cases, made the problem worse.

This issue only affects those with the MacBooks, MacBook Airs or MacBook Pros redesigned in October, and it seems to only be a problem when running the integrated graphics on those machines; Nvidia's discrete graphics don't appear to cause the same problems. A separate issue involving HD video playback on Macs running the older Nvidia GeForce 7300 GT graphics was also contained in this particular update.

Tom Krazit writes about the ever-expanding world of Internet search, including Google, Yahoo, online advertising, and portals, as well as the evolution of mobile computing. He has written about traditional PC companies, chip manufacturers, and mobile computers, spending the last three years covering Apple. E-mail Tom.
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by Mark_Anderson January 29, 2009 11:53 AM PST
But... but... it just works!

That aside, nVidia are a bit rubbish. My next GPU will be an AMD I think.
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by ITcomposer January 29, 2009 12:04 PM PST
Couldn't agree more

After 3 years of using nothing but NVIDIA Chips i just started using ATI and i am quite pleased.
by cb3431 January 29, 2009 12:10 PM PST
That's interesting because my experience has been the opposite. I purchased two AMD graphic cards and they were horrible. My laptop has a nVidia card and not a single problem.
by mikeburek January 29, 2009 9:17 PM PST
There are lots of people who have big problems with both video card brands. I'm kind of afraid to try a newer card of either one because of so many horror stories. But maybe it's like the Vista problem. Those that is works for don't loudly proclaim their success stories, but those that have bad problems talk a lot about it. Hey, for $300 and it being required to work to use the rest of the computer and software, I'd be vocal about finding an solution also.

Maybe both companies really are using as many crappy and cheap parts as they can get away with to save money.
by cb3431 January 29, 2009 12:07 PM PST
Maybe the update was pulled because Apple is trying to find a way to charge for it. Maybe the product developers, also known as the marketing team, need more time to make a commercial about how Macs just work and everything else doesn't.
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by myles taylor January 29, 2009 12:19 PM PST
You're kidding me, right? That's one of the most absurd things I've ever heard. No offense to you, but take a moment to think about it.
by MaggieRed January 29, 2009 12:35 PM PST
This is funny stuff.

Ya think maybe the discovered more CRs and want those fixed before the update goes out?
by sanenazok January 29, 2009 2:10 PM PST
@cb3431, couldn't agree more. The patch will be available as one of 134 new features of OS X.11 - the Balinese Tiger edition.
by Mergatroid Mania January 29, 2009 9:22 PM PST
For a company that used to charge extra for a keyboard, claiming you didn't need one to use their computer, I wouldn't be surprised at all if you were 100% correct.
This is what happens when a company designs for form over function.
by myles taylor January 30, 2009 7:05 AM PST
Okay you guys, I understand not liking Apple products or thinking their policies are bogus, but you guys are just spewing nonsense here. I guess you are the type of people who criticize no matter what. Ever heard of being objective?

@cb3431 and sanenazok: since when has Apple ever charged for patches or fixes? Ever? Please show me a time when they did. Not a software upgrade, but a software or firmware fix. Obviously the bug "fix" didn't fix the problem and Apple rightfully pulled it, but you of course can find a flaw in whatever they do.

@Mergatroid Mania, what computer are you talking about? If you're talking about the Mini, Apple rightfully stated that most people have a lot of keyboards sitting around and the whole appeal of the Mini was that you could use your old keyboard and mouse from your PC (it was geared toward switchers, not first time computer users) and save yourself the money of buying a new one. While I think the Mini is overpriced and underpowered the argument that Apple chooses form over function is ridiculous.

I guess it's just hoping for too much to look for objectivity in the comments section of this (or any) site.
by gladesmellzgood January 30, 2009 2:06 PM PST
@myles taylor

Apple has charged for patches, or do you not remember the five dollars they charged some macbook pro users to use the wireless N capability it shipped with. It's what they do they're a business they will find a way to make money of the consumer one way or the other. I have had some issues with apple and the way they run things, however, I would rather deal with apple because of OSX then have to use Windows as a main operating system.
by sciontcya January 29, 2009 12:36 PM PST
This board is filled with poor, sad, PC-using folks that just have nothing better to do with their time.
Yeah, hardware can be bad - even in a Mac - wow.
You do see the NVIDIA name, don't you?
Apple doesn't make the cards.
They make the software, and they've had some challenges with NVIDIA cards - the ATI have been rock-solid.
Tells you where the problems lie, trolls...
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by Seaspray0 January 29, 2009 2:07 PM PST
Don't tell the EU that. They seem to think apple is a hardware company.
by random truth January 29, 2009 2:20 PM PST
@sciontcya
Apple is a bit of a hybrid.
Apple tells another company what they need.
The other company designs the part.
Apple tweaks it to be able to work with their computers design.
Apple creates the firmware for about half the components.
Apple assembles the computer and puts osx on it.
by bkc777 January 29, 2009 3:45 PM PST
Well, I am a MacBook user, and I've been affected by this problem. The so-called graphics update that Apple provided earlier this week not only failed to correct the occasional flickering of my external display, but it made the problem infinitely worse. Now the external display is unusable, going black for long periods of time.

Thanks for nothing, Apple.

Why does it always have to be a Mac-versus-PC fanboy festival in these forums? Why can't we just hold vendors to account? Apple owes its customers better service than it's been giving them lately.
by Vegaman_Dan January 29, 2009 5:23 PM PST
Apple doesn't make the cards- they *chose* them over all other products avaialble intentionally. When that supplier screws up, it reflects badly upon Apple's judgement. Nothing can change this.

The entire industry has had trouble with nVidia in the last three years.

Your troll comment identifies you as one.
by Mergatroid Mania January 29, 2009 9:28 PM PST
You want to talk about fanboys? Go check out all the poor IPod "folk" whining in the Zune article.

I'm just happy to see an Apple fanboy admit Apple can't get a simple NVIDIA graphics chip to work properly when tons of PC video card companies already have. Sure makes those PC video card companies look like they know what they're doing, doesn't it? (not to mention other laptop manufacturers). Poor Apple.
by i_made_this January 29, 2009 1:02 PM PST
This was bound to happen, following Mr. Jobs' joyful announcement six months ago that Macs will be using Nvidia GPU's exclusively, starting with the current 9000 series.

Not a very shrewd move with Macs' hardcore graphics user market - architects, scientists, animated 3D graphics designers, et al - these people traditionally favored their Macs with ATI GPU's. For them, this was probably the last straw following Mr. Jobs' joyful announcement eighteen months ago that Macs will be using Intel CPU's exclusively, starting with the C2D series. Agreed - this highest end market segment for Apple was only a small proportion of the firm's revenues, but it accounted for much of Apple Mac's "face."

It's one thing for an OEM to get into bed with a single CPU provider and a single GPU provider, but the OEM - in this case, Apple - had best know the costs of these decisions.

Two months ago, Nvidia announced with great pride something which end users of laptops have been clamoring for, for years - direct driver and other software updates direct from the Nvidia site. IOW, you don't have to wait six months for your OEM to post the Nvidia updates to the OEM site. While this is great news for laptop end users with Nvidia GPUs, this announcement came as a smack in the face to Nvidia "channel partners" like Apple at the front of the line.

Firms like Apple enjoyed creating a difficult-to-understand mystique about their mobile GPUs - it's good for marketing to beat into end users' heads how clueless they are. But when you have an exclusive supplier relationship with a Nvidia, Apple best understand that what's good for their marketing dept may well not be supported by Nvidia's aggressive committment to their end users. Maybe Apple wants to apologize to AMD/ATI, and release a Spider platform for the updated high-end iMac and Mac Pro systems? The only problem for Apple marketing is that it'd cost too little and deliver quality too high.
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by goodspeed8701 January 29, 2009 1:49 PM PST
So many people bought rubbish hardware from apple. i feel sorry for them as they are stock with their rubbish
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by Get_a_life_Leo January 29, 2009 2:08 PM PST
*Never* had a significant problem with my personal Apple computer hardware (10 or so machines over 20 years) aside from the odd hard drive needing replaced. My research group also has Macs and PCs and only the PCs have had issues (most of our PCs are OK, but all the Macs are fine). We replace the PCs after about 3 years and give them away but the Macs have a lifespan of 5 or more years. Obviously, this is not typical, but to say Apple hardware is rubbish is not only wrong but irrelevant to the issue of the article (which relates to an NVIDIA software update).
by Seaspray0 January 29, 2009 2:27 PM PST
I wouldn't gloat, goodspeed. No doubt there are plenty of PC's that contain the exact same graphics chip... possibly yours. Those who put the cart before the horse can get bit by the horse.
by goodspeed8701 January 29, 2009 4:41 PM PST
@seaspray. It doesn't change the fact that you used premium cash to buy a faulty hardware. And its a shame that you cant admit it. i have a hp pav lappy and its always serving right and not disapointing. I am running the most hype and advance os on it. and i believe you have the os on your mac too. Its windows 7.

I know 60% of mac users will purchase it. 20 to 30% will buy a touch smart laptop and snow leopard will be another vista.
by Vegaman_Dan January 29, 2009 5:27 PM PST
Seaspray0 wrote:

"Those who put the cart before the horse can get bit by the horse"

I always thought that just meant they hadn't read the bloody manual first. :)
by seven7dust January 30, 2009 4:06 AM PST
I feel sorry for all those folks that went and bought Vista Ultimate
for 300$ only to have a Computer thats completely unusable
So I don't think Mac users need your Sympathy
afterall Macs have a high customer satisfaction rate

and Windows 7 isn't going to change n e thing
It may be better than Vista
but it's no where near as good as Leopard
by aaydogan January 29, 2009 2:43 PM PST
The biggest problem seems to be the consistent lack of QA on the part of Apple. time after time in the last several years they have been rushing software and hardware to market without thorough QA. In the end this will only tarnish an otherwise decent reputation. Being quick is not as valuable as being good. I actually don't think this is an Apple only issue. It seems to be a problem with programmers in general. Many think that their precious lines of code are etched in stone and take the QA process as a personal insult.
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by sciontcya January 29, 2009 3:06 PM PST
@sanenazok:

That's funny - coming from a guy that spent how much on Vista only to be replaced by 7?
That's funny.
Well, maybe not. But I hope 7 works better than MooHorn does.
While a family pack of 5 licenses for Leopard is $199.
I see who's smarter now!
Thanks for point us in the right direction you M$ lemming!
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by Vegaman_Dan January 29, 2009 5:29 PM PST
sciontcya wrote:

"I see who's smarter now!"

Ah, well at least we've confirmed you're not looking in a mirror then. :)
by Ronlap January 29, 2009 4:33 PM PST
hoo-boy! This was not a good update for me. My DVI adaptor still works, but when i use the VGA adaptor to connect to a projector, I get yellow squigglies through the picture. The System Preferences/Display timing settings are very odd, like 60.3 Hz, 72.1 Hz etc instead of the integers that they are supposed to be.
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by  Brian February 1, 2009 10:34 AM PST
Last fall, I applied for a job at Apple retail selling their stuff.

Day #3 of training I realized that I couldn't sell Apple products -- because I don't believe in the products!

Face it, Apple makes SOME good products, but some others are worthless crap.

Apple does NOT compete in price and every iPod (exception: iPod Touch) does not offer the features you can get CHEAPER from competing companies.

The new Macbooks are not interesting whatsoever.

I feel fortunate to have a black Macbook that "just works", unlike these new generation of Macbooks.

I feel sorry for the sad Apple sales pigeons who are stuck trying to make their monthly sales quotas.

But how can you sell a product that you know is garbage ??

I couldn't.

Sad to say, but Quality Control at Apple has been horrible.

To say otherwise would admit to being a fanboi.
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