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January 29, 2009 9:44 AM PST

New iPhone firmware reveals code for next model

by Tom Krazit
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What will Apple's next iPhone look like? The only changes might be under the hood.

(Credit: Apple)

As might be expected, it doesn't seem that the iPhone 3G will be Apple's last iPhone.

MacRumors has discovered code inside the OS X 2.2.1 firmware released earlier this week that describes an "IPhone 2,1" model. Previous discoveries have shown that Apple uses this labeling nomenclature for both the iPhone and the iPod Touch.

The original iPhone was labeled "1,1", while the iPhone 3G was model "1,2." The iPod Touch has already advanced to a second-generation design, as the iPod Touch released at September's music event received the "2,1" label inside its firmware.

Little else is known about iPhone "2,1." It's reasonable to assume that since the iPod Touch number changed significantly with the addition of a new processor, that such an upgrade might be coming to the next iPhone. P.A. Semi has been working on iPhone chips since last spring, and other evidence has surfaced indicating that Apple might be planning to upgrade the iPhone's graphics sometime in the near future.

Apple marketing chief Phil Schiller seemed to imply earlier this year that Apple was locked into a June/July upgrade cycle with the iPhone, noting that Macworld's January date conflicted with a number of Apple's regular product cycles. So, perhaps another summer iPhone release is on tap.

Before that, however, I still think there's a solid chance Apple doubles the capacity of the iPhone and iPod Touch without making any other major changes, just as it did last February.

Tom Krazit writes about the ever-expanding world of Internet search, including Google, Yahoo, online advertising, and portals, as well as the evolution of mobile computing. He has written about traditional PC companies, chip manufacturers, and mobile computers, spending the last three years covering Apple. E-mail Tom.
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by DnetMHZ January 29, 2009 10:01 AM PST
July would be perfect as I'm due for an upgrade in August!
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by abundantsnotbob January 30, 2009 8:15 AM PST
Well, I think that if a whole number changed it could be an entirely different model, like a bigger one for us fat fingered folk. I could be wrong.
by Seaspray0 January 29, 2009 10:13 AM PST
Computer models get new processors and hdd/memory capacity on a regular basis without a revision change to the OS. Even smartphones from others can go through several model changes but still retain the same revision of the underlying code. I'd also look at the change in the number... 1.2 to 2.1. A change in the whole number digits usually represents a major revision change in code for everyone else in the world.

Tom, would you speculate that, based on the above, more than just processor/capacity changes should be expected by the public? i.e. the possible graphics upgrade you mentioned? How about a change in the chips used for the 3G which caused problems? To me, a change in processor/capacity simply does not merrit going to revision 2.1.
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by Tom Krazit January 29, 2009 10:33 AM PST
I think both of those changes (graphics, 3G) are possible. I think a capacity change wouldn't merit a new version step, but a processor change might, just based on the fact that the iPod Touch was considered a second-gen model with little more than an speed bump and a few other cosmetic changes.

But at some point, we have to expect version 3.0 of the iPhone software, as well. Is that on a yearly cadence, along with the hardware? Is the 2,1 hardware needed to run the new software? It's hard to tell, there's not enough historical data with the iPhone to predict how often Apple plans to make changes.
by Hep Cat January 29, 2009 11:34 AM PST
I think the 3G chip, at the very least, will be changed to something less power hungry in the next major rev.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't the whole point of this story "Apple will release a second-generation iPhone...with some undetermined feature set and an undetermined price point at an undetermined time.

Whooo. Boy, that was worthy of a blog post.
by shadowself January 29, 2009 12:24 PM PST
I agree with Hep Cat. This is a non story.

The bottom line seems to be that there is a minor indication in the latest S/W update that implies Apple is working on a new version of the iPhone.
There is no indication at all of what features it will have.
There is no indication at all of when it will be released (if ever -- sometimes Apple's has interim prototypes that never see the light of day).
There is no indication at all of whether it will still be tied to AT&T.
There is no indication at all of what it might cost.

The only indication is that Apple *might* be working on another variant of the iPhone hardware.

Hell, this could even have been an indicator of that "iPhone Nano" about which the rumor mills were so profusely telling tales a few weeks ago. (However, I suspect this is really unlikely.)

This is a non story.
by Tom Krazit January 29, 2009 2:46 PM PST
The point of the story is that the version number change indicates that there will be significant changes under the hood, rather than just evidence that there will be a "new iPhone." Apple follows a similar numbering scheme when making processor/chipset changes in the MacBook line.

http://www.appleinsider.com/articles/09/01/29/major_architectural_changes_suggested_by_iphone_21.html
by mikeburek January 29, 2009 9:01 PM PST
How is this a "non story?" So many people read every single CNet article, and then say that they didn't want to read it.

CNet is a technology news reporting company. They are not a "major headline news story." If you just want big news, then only read the front page, or only stick to your local news for sensational news.

CNet does a great job at finding all the little things and reporting them.

And this is news, not just a rumor. And considering the amount of advertising and the number of people who buy the iPhone, this is very news worthy.

Tom even links to SIX articles to give more background to this story and show it's relevance in the world. It's not a 2 min story he wrote in his sleep.

Thanks, Tom, and CNet, for covering so many different areas.
by blusky08 January 30, 2009 12:45 PM PST
Yeah, CNET is a tech reporting site. Unfortunately, half of the interesting news is in video format (with commercials)Who has time to watch them? One also has to read several other tech sites to get much of the interesting news.

That said, I like Cnet. Just some constructive criticism!
by ppartekim January 29, 2009 10:19 AM PST
not me... I want it now!!!!
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by seven7dust January 29, 2009 11:07 AM PST
My most wanted feature is Multi-tasking
I know Jailbroken Phones have this feature
but a better Implementation is needed

Imagine listetning to Pandora while playing
Fieldrunners/Simcity {that would be sweet}
also fingers crossed for copy and paste
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by megustansalchichas January 29, 2009 11:21 AM PST
a major upgrade in graphics would coincide with the premium game store rumor -iphone 2.1 = the new Turbo Grafx 16?
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by pjhenry1216 January 29, 2009 11:34 AM PST
It'd be nice if they could overcome the monumental task of adding picture messaging like virtually every other phone has, including ones that cost $20. And hopefully its implemented software wise and doesn't require new hardware (wouldn't be surprised with Apple to force upgrades for new features) cause I'm not buying another iPhone just to get the same features as every other phone out there. The iPhone just does what other phones do, but they do it well. However, they don't do as much as many other phones. They dropped extremely simple functions that every phone has for virtually no reason. I've yet to hear a valid reason as to why they can't add copy & paste or can't add picture messaging. Picture messaging is my biggest gripe. Getting that AT&T message about logging onto some site is a pain in the ass. They should at least provide a link in the message that fills in the login information for you.
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by January 29, 2009 12:49 PM PST
Well said, its pretty silly to leave out these two basic functions.

The other thing I'd like added in is linking your address book to your calendar, so that you can select a contact in your address book and schedule a meeting from their card that will be saved in your calendar.

I have an iPhone and am waiting for my contract to run out so I can move to a "big kid's" phone. I am not giving Apple any more money to get pretty basic features.
by seven7dust January 30, 2009 4:33 AM PST
you said it !
I've been saying this from the beginning !
Which is why I'll never buy a IPhone till they add these basic things
I'm happy with my Touch and old walkman phone

But wats scary is that Apple is known for
abandoning older technology
So MMS is highly unlikely !
by Notoapplefanbois January 29, 2009 12:41 PM PST
make it more powerful than the pandora and then sell it unlocked for $500 and then you've got at least one sale!
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by Millerboy January 29, 2009 2:03 PM PST
Apple, for your next iPhone Include a real, physical QWERTY keyboard with tactile buttons!!!
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by Lethality January 29, 2009 2:33 PM PST
Spoken like a true visionary.

/boggle
by jumpjetta January 29, 2009 7:31 PM PST
Yeah, and can I get an RJ-11 port on my new iPhone to connect it to my modem and land line so I can do some REAL surfing??
by seven7dust January 30, 2009 4:35 AM PST
no way touchscreens r the future !
I think a better touchscreen keyboard is a more realistic request

if you want qwerty keyboard why not get the G1
or some Cheap WinMo phone like the Epix
by MPB January 31, 2009 11:56 PM PST
arrrrrr thats disgusting!
by The_happy_switcher February 2, 2009 1:00 PM PST
@Millerboy: It's called a Blackberry, you know, 20th century technology from RIMM.
by chanocular January 29, 2009 6:58 PM PST
CDMA Iphone anyone?
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by joshma January 29, 2009 7:33 PM PST
As an unfortunate Spring user, seconded.
by paradym January 30, 2009 6:22 AM PST
I'd like to add my hopes/predictions for the new iPhone:

-Haptic feedback: This might win over those who prefer a physical keyboard;
-Better camera: At least 3 megapixels, editing capabilities;
-Video recording;
-Stereo bluetooth: Getting tired of headphone wires, or at least...
-Compatible with headsets that have volume control on inline remote (thinking this will happen since Apple released new headphones);
-Pipe dream, but is there any way to get Flash... please?
-And the ubiquitous Cut & Paste: I don't need it often, but when I do it would be so helpful!

Finally, I know it probably hurts reception, but I still prefer the aluminum body and flatter back. Just feels "nicer", more high end than the plastic. Or perhaps they're coming up with with a better material that is practically scratch proof and has substantial feel/touch.
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by seven7dust January 30, 2009 11:37 PM PST
I felt the same way about wired headphones too
but after using bluetooth headsets I resized how bad they r
1)the Sound quality sux 2) music skips sometimes
3) the battery life sux and you need to constantly charge it
bluetooth headsets r not quite there yet ! maybe in the future
by DarkHawke January 31, 2009 12:49 AM PST
From your post to Steve's eyes...or whoever's running the show over there now!
by electricgamer January 30, 2009 6:47 AM PST
At this point it seems that Apple is taking their time with features on the iPhone. They are milking the fact that it is widely popular and they can offer less features than other phones yet you pay the same price. I purchased the iPhone thinking I was going to have an all in one product. Cut & paste is not a big deal for me (but it is for others), MMS, and stereo bluetooth, which is a very big deal for me. Not to compare but lets look at the Blackberry Storm vs iPhone. or iPhone vs every other cell phone. Even a pre-paid phone have features Apple does not offer on the iPhone. Next time I will do alot of research before purchasing another iPhone...sleek and sexy is just a gimmick
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by M5er January 30, 2009 7:39 AM PST
The iPhone is so dissimilar from any other phone being sold, but it keeps being compared to every other phone being sold. Look at what the 3G has given us, relative to other "mobile phones".

1) Hands down the best display on the market
2) Best computing performance on the market
3) Best music player on the market
4) Good-sized hard drive
5) Easily the best mobile browser on the market
6) Best gaming experience on the market (I don't play games, but I've heard as much)
7) Very handsome design
8) One of a *few* phones to pull off a legitimate touch screen (Storm, Epix, etc are busts).
9) Integrated Wi-Fi
10) 3G
11) Unbelievable amount of quality 3rd party applications
12) Notice how I've gotten this far without even mentioning that you can use it CALL people?
12) .... and more can be said.

The point is, sure, the iPhone and 3G lack some "basic" features like the MMS, Stereo Bluetooth and Copy/Paste. I don't care about those features, but I realize that several people do. For their sake, Apple *should* be working on ways to include those features on future iterations to keep customers happy. But seriously, for what we are getting, the iPhone is an excellent device.
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by M5er January 30, 2009 7:40 AM PST
Clown - forgot to change 12) to 13)
by abundantsnotbob January 30, 2009 8:24 AM PST
2) There is an Asus phone with 800 MHZ compared to 400 some.
4) The iPhone doesn't have a hard drive.
10) All the iPhone competitors I'm thinking of have 3G
12) Hmm, all phones can call people
I agree that the iPhone is an excellent device, but you are going a little overboard. I would probably get one if the service charges weren't so expensive.
by M5er January 30, 2009 8:56 AM PST
2) Fair enough, though I was comparing clock speed + Interface, OS, etc... but still, I see your point.
4) That's just me not knowing anything - Is if flash? I don't even know.
10) Again, yes, other phones have 3G, I was just pointing to the phone's highlights, not saying that the iPhone 3G is any better than a competitor's.
12) Self-explanatory
by 1812dave January 30, 2009 11:07 AM PST
"several" people care about cut and paste?? LOL! Make that MILLIONS!! ever try to input a tracking number in safari when the number in an email isn't a link? without cut and paste or multitasking you have no reference to enter the long number into the shipper's web site. get a clue, dude!!
by jlvivian January 30, 2009 8:12 AM PST
iPhone 2,1 is sounds like an upgrade for a Video Camera on the front close to de speaker??....yes!!!....videocalls.......=)
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by abundantsnotbob January 30, 2009 8:17 AM PST
selfshadow, I think that apple had a 5 year agreement with at&t for the iphone to be exclusively on their network.
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by 1812dave January 30, 2009 11:03 AM PST
Here's what it would take to make me buy an iPhone (I already have a Touch 2G)

1. removable battery and better battery life (2X better)

2. Cut and paste!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

3. multitasking!!!

4. remove all the "done" and "save" buttons, like the Pre

5. video recording camera

6. millisecond control over keyboard response, ala Storm

7. Flash support and 3rd party browser capability
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by Karthik_Nair January 30, 2009 12:12 PM PST
I really want a iphone for verizon so i can get one. And it will be a smart move on apple's part cause now they are selling the iphone on 2 of the U.S's largest carriers
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by 1812dave January 30, 2009 12:30 PM PST
I wouldn't switch back to AT&T it their service was free. I prefer Verizon, but just might switch to Sprint if the Pre is as good as anticipated. Time will tell...
by ice82 January 30, 2009 12:13 PM PST
2,1? not 2.1? that's a weird numbering imo.
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by andrewrm January 30, 2009 3:05 PM PST
I seriously doubt Verizon will see the iPhone. I don't think that Apple will engineer CDMA phones for N. America when most of the planet is on GSM.
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by rcsskier February 3, 2009 10:47 AM PST
Apple went to Verizon first with the iPhone. Funny how Verizon screwed that up. Also, Why is Cnet getting all of their Apple "news" from Macrumors.com?
by Lenter101 January 30, 2009 5:00 PM PST
And yet, on one day, another example of "Stuff White People Like" on CNET.

CNET, the coffee, sushi, and Apple Computer Mount Everest of Stuff That White People Like. I bet most of the CNET employees have a black gay friend who is not only gay and black, but if they hit the trifecta, he has a baby too. The only thing tht makes white people in San Francisco feel even more superior is to have a friend who use to be a man become a woman, now, this is cool, superiority to a degree that the average person in America can never achieve.

If you haven't read, "Stuff White People Like" I recommend you go to the web site or buy the book. He is talking about CNET and their staff and their many admirers who can't get enough of sushi, Steve Jobs, Starbucks and all the other Stuff White People Like. It's very funny and has been featured on PBS and - most recently, CNN.
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by sahilk January 30, 2009 6:05 PM PST
"iphone firmware shows that the next iphone may already be in works"


REALLY?

its been in works since 3g was released.. >.>
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