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December 17, 2008 8:30 AM PST

Talking Apple in the land of foreclosures

by Tom Krazit
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Editor's note: This is part of a series of stories about the recession's effect on the tech industry.

MODESTO, Calif.--As a driver for United Parcel Service and an Apple fan, Jeff Maciel is in an interesting position to observe how Central California's San Joaquin Valley is coping with a deepening recession just as Apple moves into the neighborhood.

Jeff Maciel is reducing his holiday spending this year, but is excited to have a nearby Apple retail store.

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As he beat a path to the crowded parking lot outside the new Apple retail store at the Vintage Faire Mall in Modesto, Maciel grudgingly admitted that he and his family are spending less this holiday season as he watches the pile of boxes assigned to his UPS route dwindle.

"I'm making the same number of stops, but the shipments are way down," the soft-spoken shopper said as his son and daughter fidgeted, likely more interested in the large bag of See's Candies they were carrying rather than discussing economics with a stranger.

To purchase a new case for his iPhone 3G, Maciel drove half an hour across an area among the hardest hit by the credit crunch and resulting home foreclosures that have helped plunge the world into recession. Modesto, where Apple decided to open its 250th retail store in November, had the ninth-highest rate of foreclosure activity in the U.S. during October, according to statistics published by RealtyTrac. That number has probably been fueled by rising unemployment, which at 11.8 percent is nearing a 10-year high.

Just 8 miles away from the Vintage Faire Mall, one of Modesto's hardest-hit neighborhoods was very quiet on a sunny but brisk Saturday morning. Debris lined the streets near the Modesto airport, dotted with boarded-up houses bearing the telling "BANK OWNED" real estate signs out front.

But on the second-to-last shopping weekend before the holidays, shoppers were bustling at the Apple store, which was "dead" on Friday according to one Apple employee. A steady stream of people ventured into the store to check out the MacBooks and iPod Touches prominently on display on Apple's usual low wooden tables.

Apple's 250th retail store opened in foreclosure-plagued Modesto, California.

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Amber Hill of Modesto came to the store because her two sons, Jacob and Josh, both want the new iPod Touches for Christmas. Hill thinks Apple's products are "overpriced" but the boys were clearly excited about the prospect of the iPods making their way from their wish lists to under the tree.

So how did Apple's milestone 250th retail store wind up in Modesto? Two years ago, when Modesto's agriculture-centered economy was in much better shape, the city wanted to find a way to keep its residents in town rather than having them drive to places like Sacramento or Pleasanton for high-end retail shops, said Brent Sinclair, community and economic development director for Modesto.

The city and Vintage Faire Mall management company Macerich decided the answer was a so-called "lifestyle center," a fancy outdoor mall supplement to the traditional indoor mall design with its two long floors and a food court. Lifestyle centers are designed to lure high-end retailers such as Coach, Bebe, Coldwater Creek, and, increasingly, Apple. Sinclair knew that women's clothing retailer Coldwater Creek would be a central part of the design, but received "a pleasant surprise" when--cloaked with the company's usual secrecy--it emerged that Apple would be occupying one of the smaller retail spaces within the center.

Indeed, the Apple store, flanked by retailers Coach and Bebe, drew far more shoppers on Saturday afternoon than either of the neighboring stores. It wasn't clear how many shoppers actually left the store with new iMacs or iPhones, but kids gathered to have their pictures taken next to an elf wearing iPod headphones as they excitedly discussed their own iPods.

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As it has become clear that the world is entering an economic downturn as bad as anything seen in the last 80 years, many have wondered whether Apple, with $24 billion in the bank and virtually no debt, is "recession-proof." NPD released numbers Tuesday that indicated that Mac growth may be ebbing as a recessionary mindset takes hold among U.S. consumers, the base of Apple's support.

One way to judge Apple's ability to ride out a recession is to track its performance in some of the areas hit hard by unemployment and foreclosures, such as Modesto, Las Vegas, and southern Florida. Apple has a reputation as a trendy tech supplier to the digerati on either coast, but it has been expanding its retail empire beyond its strongholds in San Francisco and New York for years now, and has been generating results.

Despite their clear desire to get on with their day, Maciel and his children were excited to have an Apple store in their neighborhood, even if it meant they had to make the half-hour trek past dairy farms and nut trees from the tiny town of Hilmar to the mall. Still, they aren't the kind of rabid Apple fanatics that kept the company afloat in years' past: the Maciels were not in the market for a new iPod this year, having upgraded the kids' iPods last year.

Nonetheless, Maciel seemed confident that even if things get worse next year and he has to slash his spending further, Apple would remain on his short list. Judging by the three strangers at the malls' Sweet River Bar and Grill who struck up a conversation about their new iPhones, and the steady parade of families passing in and out of the Apple store, there are others in the San Joaquin Valley who feel that way too.

Coming up Thursday: Working overtime for venture capital funding

Tom Krazit writes about the ever-expanding world of Internet search, including Google, Yahoo, online advertising, and portals, as well as the evolution of mobile computing. He has written about traditional PC companies, chip manufacturers, and mobile computers, spending the last three years covering Apple. E-mail Tom.
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by Vegaman_Dan December 17, 2008 9:36 AM PST
I guess I don't understand this article. Is the point Tom is trying to make that the economy is slow at this point and people are buying less luxury goods / computers ? Or that the computer market is more resistant to the econony downturn than other durable goods?

The article tends to wander back and forth without really a clear goal in mind.
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by montex66 December 17, 2008 9:54 AM PST
cNet might be falling into it's old pattern of publishing anything negative about Apple it can come up with to increase website hits. I'm surprised it's taken them this long.
by Alex Alexzander December 17, 2008 10:01 AM PST
@Vegaman_Dan,

It's crystal clear. Despite passing foreclosures along the way to the mall, and even the knowing parent stating that he felt iPods are over-priced, Apple still remains on the short-list of products they want to continue to own and purchase even in a recession.

It is often said that in a recession, people like to reward themselves with special things while belt-tightning on others. Perhaps Apple is the reward item, and combined with their $24 billion-dollar reserves Apple ought to be able to ride the recession through. Perhaps less people are coming into the stores, such as noted by the staff's comments of the Friday crowd. But the none the less, on Saturday, kids and adults were there and enthusiastic.

Alex
by AppleSuxLeo December 17, 2008 9:59 AM PST
Apple...the Sharper Image of the computer industry.
Steve Jobs = Ron Popeil.
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by eBob1 December 18, 2008 6:54 AM PST
If Apple is the Sharper Image of the computer industry, then wouldn't that make Steve Jobs = Richard Thalheimer?
by Get_a_life_Leo December 17, 2008 11:13 AM PST
Leo, why do you persistently troll the CNET Apple stories? If you hate this company and its products so much, do something positive and spend us out of the recession by buying some piece of PC hardware. You'll feel much better.
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by ken.c.cheng December 17, 2008 11:37 AM PST
Sounds like flight to quality to me.
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by shycelticwitch December 17, 2008 12:07 PM PST
Alex I would like to know when and where this is "often said".... because I have never heard it before.

"It is often said that in a recession, people like to reward themselves with special things while belt-tightning on others. Perhaps Apple is the reward item, and combined with their $24 billion-dollar reserves Apple ought to be able to ride the recession through. Perhaps less people are coming into the stores, such as noted by the staff's comments of the Friday crowd. But the none the less, on Saturday, kids and adults were there and enthusiastic."

Perhaps you meant to say that during a depression, people are more likely to spend a little extra on a quality product that will not require further spending to maintain or need to be upgraded or replaced before times get better. Even the least intelligent person knows you get what you pay for... been that way since the dawn of mankind.
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by bvdon December 17, 2008 8:35 PM PST
digging the new iMacs. I've still got a lot of life in my G5 tower, but I just may go for the all-in-one model next time around.
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by webmasterforum December 23, 2008 1:35 PM PST
cool
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by webmasterforum December 23, 2008 1:36 PM PST
www.google.com.tr
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by arsh123456 January 21, 2009 1:11 PM PST
Foreclosure proceedings vary from state to state. In states where mortgages are used, home owners can end up staying in the property for almost a year; whereas in states where trust deeds are used, trustee sales give a seller about four months before she needs to vacate.

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by arsh123456 January 21, 2009 1:13 PM PST
Foreclosure proceedings vary from state to state. In states where mortgages are used, home owners can end up staying in the property for almost a year; whereas in states where trust deeds are used, trustee sales give a seller about four months before she needs to vacate.

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arsh

[url="http://mls.fastrealestate.net/b/mls-listings"]MLS listings[/url]
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